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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#51
I might be able to join this game if the post count restriction is kept in place.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 12 2013 03:38 GMT
#56
/in
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 16 2013 16:15 GMT
#77
If this starts at any point ever, I'll be fine with that.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 02 2013 06:00 GMT
#107
Patience, young padawan.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 07 2013 18:48 GMT
#121
It'd be cool if people signed up for this game so it could start at some point. I need to redeem myself after that disappointing catch 22 game.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 10 2013 04:11 GMT
#130
Either way, we'll be sure to lynch one of you day one.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 12 2013 06:29 GMT
#140
No matter what, we lynch Hapa.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 16 2013 07:27 GMT
#215
This game will be won or lost in PM's. Because of the post count limit, I definitely feel like it's going to be significantly more difficult to form solid reads on players, especially based on activity, which is generally how I parse through the game. On that note, I intended on masoning Hapa if he didn't me, as getting a read on him will be quite easy in PM land where I think he'd have a harder time keeping up the ruse of being interested in this game if he were mafia. I'll be sure to give my expert Hapa read to the thread once I feel confident about his alignment.

What I feel is going to be the most important thing to focus on in the thread aren't necessarily the content of people's posts, but rather, where, when and why they vote. Voting is going to be more important than content analysis this game because of the change in posting style that the post count limit forces people to make. In this line of reasoning, I'm immediately suspicious of VE for his vote post here:

On July 16 2013 15:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: DocHelvetica

Every post he makes (and he's made a full 12 of his allotted 20 posts at the time of writing) makes me vomit inside my mouth a little bit. I don't like anything he's doing. He's not pressuring anyone, he's wasting posts throwing shit at Vayne. I don't even know yet what I think about Vayne, but if the remaining 40% of his posts don't blow me out of the water, I want to kill Doc H today.


Instead of attempting to interact with anyone, VE is content passing judgment from the sidelines about the interaction between DH and VA. This sort of voting in line with the sway of the thread (as both FT and VA were suspicious of DH) is a trait that I've seen mafia VE pull in games past. It's also worth noting that VE voting for DH for "throwing shit" at VA when VE has no opinion of VA is quite a ridiculous idea. This sort of bullshit reasoning is something that cannot be tolerated, and smells of mafia drumming up a reason to slap a vote on a player already under fire.

In my opinion, Dr H seems like the kind of player who would be getting into these types of arguments if he were town. I've only casually observed some of the games he has played in, but I can tell that he is naturally hot-headed and aggressive. So far, nothing in his posting has warranted any sort of suspicion. VE needs to better explain what, exactly, makes him so ready to lynch Dr H, because at the moment, he seems to be the better candidate for hanging.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 16 2013 19:27 GMT
#254
On July 17 2013 03:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still anxiously, anxiously waiting for Sandroba, Node and Wiggles to come in with their thoughts. Their silence is NOT being ignored.

(3/20)

Don't have anything to add, VE?

I'm watching you.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 16 2013 20:03 GMT
#257
On July 17 2013 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
@SnB
My post wasn't useless and spammy. Not a single person has mentioned any of the names I brought up, so saying that's "something we all already knew" is ridiculous. I let the thread know that I'm watching for those names to crop up in particular because of how long they've taken to enter the fray combined with the fact that at least two of the names are known to be good scumhunters (sorry Node).

I will say that Node has a tendency to get a case of the fo's in games so his absence is less of a surprise, but I was personally looking forward to playing with him.

@Yamato
If I found anything worth mentioning, I would have mentioned it. You watch me and call me scum in every game. This game will be no exception. Go away.

@Town
Scum have no motivation to post because no one is making them post. Everyone is just pointing fingers at people who have posted for dumb reasons. If you were scum, would YOU post at a time like this?

You still have yet to better justify your vote on DrH.

Also, I have a high success rate of reading you when you actually post, so it's in your best interest, if you are town, to post more.

Alternatively, if you're mafia, you can continue to be useless and we'll just lynch you.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 16 2013 20:24 GMT
#261
It seems like you're too focused on the fact that Hapa is more concerned about PMs than the thread. I've only talked with him a bit, but I haven't seen anything from him that raises any alarms. Like I said, I'll let you guys know if something is up with Hapa. Him talking about setup in a game as unfamiliar as this one is not something to worry about.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 06:12 GMT
#337
On July 17 2013 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyone who's paying even tertiary attention to the game knows that I never, in fact, ACTUALLY voted for Doc H. Much like my reasoning, my vote was illusory. It was designed to put the sentiment into the thread that I find Doc H suspicious, to see who picks up the ball and runs. I've had a couple of bites but nothing major - kholly is still attesting that he finds Doc suspicious but still hasn't really explained why.

Now that Wiggles has graced us, I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned any of DocH, kholly or Malongo at all. Malongo faked an opinion on slOosh (what does "needlessly polarized" even mean?) and posted filters and fucked off, kholly is doing little more, thought to his credit he at least is voting for DocH.

So right now I'm looking to lynch in the vicinity of

kholly
Malongo
Wiggles


And I'll go with the most useless so far.

##Vote: Malongo

(5/20)

Ugh, VE.

Ugh.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 06:41 GMT
#339
If you're all just going to ignore VE, I'd be absolutely fine lynching the useless filter of Meapak as well. He's certainly exceptional in how little he's actually playing the game of mafia.

On July 16 2013 17:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm on my phone so I can't copy paste but a couple posts up this page FirmTofu reponds the correct way to DrH and VE responds to wrong way.

Also yamato's last post was absolutely horrible.

I will probably use both my masons D1 on people who I feel are town.

I'm going to bed now.


On July 17 2013 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hi biddies I'm just gonna wait for people to pop in and start asking me aggressive questions about reads and shit. Make it interesting or imma go play league of legends.

Also fuck I wanted to mason rayn, glad he's basically confirmed town though.


This is as close as he comes to actually posting reads. Given the already difficult nature of forming a consensus in a game like this and his rather lackadaisical approach to the game so far, I'm willing to believe he's mafia trying to hide among the other low-content players in the game.

Plus, I always love lynching people who call my posts "horrible".
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 08:08 GMT
#341
On July 17 2013 16:10 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 15:41 yamato77 wrote:
If you're all just going to ignore VE, I'd be absolutely fine lynching the useless filter of Meapak as well. He's certainly exceptional in how little he's actually playing the game of mafia.

On July 16 2013 17:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm on my phone so I can't copy paste but a couple posts up this page FirmTofu reponds the correct way to DrH and VE responds to wrong way.

Also yamato's last post was absolutely horrible.

I will probably use both my masons D1 on people who I feel are town.

I'm going to bed now.


On July 17 2013 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hi biddies I'm just gonna wait for people to pop in and start asking me aggressive questions about reads and shit. Make it interesting or imma go play league of legends.

Also fuck I wanted to mason rayn, glad he's basically confirmed town though.


This is as close as he comes to actually posting reads. Given the already difficult nature of forming a consensus in a game like this and his rather lackadaisical approach to the game so far, I'm willing to believe he's mafia trying to hide among the other low-content players in the game.
Plus, I always love lynching people who call my posts "horrible".

I am willing to lynch VE, but I see DrH as the most optimal choice. Can you perhaps look into our conversations with one another and consider it? DrH has still not responded to my questions even though I have explicitly stated what I wanted him to answer. That, in itself, should be reason enough to warrant his lynch.

Your arguing is incessant and altogether pointless. Dr H is far too active, abrasive, and emotional to be mafia. Whatever gran lie you think he's committed, I think you've misinterpreted. I have him down as a solid town read, and nothing you've posted has changed that.

As for you, I'm undecided. What he's posted about you isn't all that convincing, but you seem so singularly fixated at the moment that it's worrying. Why don't you take some time away from tunneling DH and give me a productive read over a player of my choosing, say Oatsmaster, and then I'll do the same in return for you. This has worked excellent for me in the past for getting out of tunnels.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 19:30 GMT
#375
Rayn, talk to me about Sloosh. Generally when I've played with Sloosh and he's scum, he goes into afk lurker mode and never posts. Seeing as that hasn't happened yet, I'm generally not thrilled with the idea of lynching him. What makes him a better lynch than VE?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 19:51 GMT
#380
On July 18 2013 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:30 yamato77 wrote:
Rayn, talk to me about Sloosh. Generally when I've played with Sloosh and he's scum, he goes into afk lurker mode and never posts. Seeing as that hasn't happened yet, I'm generally not thrilled with the idea of lynching him. What makes him a better lynch than VE?

What has Sloosh actually done that's more than VE? Talked about setup and defended himself. I would not call that as effort. As i said earlier i'm not sure which one of those two i want to lynch, VE looks equally bad. There are questions asked from both of them and i'm waiting for them to answer.

As for sloosh lurker moda, this is pretty close to lurker mode...

Well I have little more than an hour before I have to leave for work, so I need to arrive at a dcent conclusion quickly.

Of the two I've posted about, I'm more confident about VE being scum than MZ. MZ has been useless as town in games past, so perhaps waiting and seeing if/when he does anything is the best course of action for him.

You think Sloosh is a decent lynch, which I'm initially hesitant to. I've seen Sloosh have bad day 1s on more than one occasion, but you are right that he hasn't posted anything meaningful in a while. I'm still more comfortable lynching VE, but Sloosh I suppose is a decent second option if you all don't see him return by the deadline and VE starts bursting with towniness.

Really, I'd rather lynch VE. He's more than capable of being useful as town, but as we see this game, he's relegated himself to only posting about lurkers and not much else. Generally, when his scumhunting attempts are this pathetic, he's mafia. Town VE would have shown that he cares about finding mafia, but scum VE would have largely resigned himself to his fate at this point, given how many people are suspicious of him. I think it's obvious which VE we're seeing here.

##Vote VisceraEyes

I'all try to stick around as long as possible to see if anything more interesting is brought up, but right now, this is the best course of action.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 20:06 GMT
#386
On July 18 2013 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato what have you and Hapa talked about in PM's?
Can you post some compilation or even full logs?



Original Message From Hapahauli:
VE might not be a bad choice. A good portion of people are suspicious of him right now. He seems to be very mindful of his post-count, so I'm not sure we could reliably get information out of him otherwise.

What do you think of Rayn's pardoner claim? Is it alignment indicative?


Show nested quote +
Original Message From yamato77:
I've had success reading VE in the past, and that post is a huge red flag. If he continues to try to keep a low profile as he is now, it'll only confirm my suspicions.

I'm also rather leery of SNB's first post, just because it looks so constructed. I haven't played with him much so I don't know what to expect from him.

I'm unsure of how much of this game is going to be played in thread. I went ahead and masoned DrH because I feel like he's active enough to talk to and I might be able to help him with dealing with these votes. I remember him overreacting to this kind of thing before.

I think I'm going to use my second mason on someone I'm suspicious of, maybe VE? If he's actually town, it should be obvious in PMs, and that would help overcome the post restriction. I'll keep you posted if I decide to do anything else.

Original Message From Hapahauli:
Regarding reads so far, Oats, DrH, and Vayne all seem fine to me. DrH is being extremely butt-hurt and try-hard, vayne's first post I don't think is something scum would make (expressing a very "unpopular" sentiment), and Oats is displaying some of his townie "madness".

VE's first post really makes me want to vote him, though I'm unsure of how much his "sidlining" mentality is due to him watching his postcount rather than sitting back and ejoying the argument. Normally I'd blast him for it, but with the postcount restrictions, I want to see how that argument develops between him and DrH.


Original Message From yamato77:
Who else do you think would be valuable to have in this "town circle" that you want to build?

Original Message From Hapahauli:
As promised... 'sup

Anyway, my plan going forward is to establish your alignment, and if you're town, slowly add on players and build a "town circle" of sorts.

I don't expect us to have much to talk about early on, but I'll likely use you as an outlet for my spam and madness due to posting restrictions in-thread.


That's all we talked about before he replaced out. Not much means anything, and I was beginning to worry that he was so uninvolved, but obviously that was due to something outside of the game, not necessarily having been mafia. I confirmed with Marv that we're masoned and I have yet to hear back from him, but I'm sure he'll be obvious enough if he is actually town.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 17 2013 21:37 GMT
#408
After that post, I'm completely fine with my vote where it is. VE posting like that is mafia VE.

With that, I'm gone.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 18 2013 06:32 GMT
#543
On July 18 2013 15:27 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 14:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lmfao i can't believe how stupid tl towns are sometimes, I'm going to jump out a window when FT is the last remaining mafia and wins the game


wonderful how you have less posts tonight and you waste one saying that

Wonderful how you've been wasting posts the whole game.

ZZZZZZIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 18 2013 21:35 GMT
#609
I don't have time to parse through the game right now and update my reads any more than I have now, so I'll just lay it out and hope they are useful if I get shot.

Sloosh is looking many times worse after I left the thread. He is more than capable of solid analysis as a town player, yet has contributed very little that I would call meaningful. Watch him day 2, and if he doesn't improve, lynch him.

MZ and Ace are also two people who could post useful things but don't. Kill them, too.

If I'm alive tomorrow, expect a refreshed look at the game a short time after the daypost. Until then, adieu.
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