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Skanjab1s
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June 05 2013 14:18 GMT
#262
/in
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 05 2013 14:23 GMT
#264
woo!
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 05 2013 19:51 GMT
#274
VTK?
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 11:19 GMT
#459
On June 06 2013 11:00 iVLosK! wrote:
Who is the motherfucker who recognized me from OMGUS?

I will find you, mystery motherfucker.


I'm the finger down your spine when all the lights are out. I'm the name on all the men's room walls. When I pout, the whole world tries to make me smile. And everyone always wants to know, who... is... that girl?

Okay guys, listen up. I can read vloski like a Dr Seuss book. And he is without a doubt town. I've like, never been wrong about him.

So, ##vote: Spicydinosaur

For all his posts being about game theory (lynching lurkers, etc.) and none of them having any intention of finding scum.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 12:25 GMT
#463
On June 06 2013 21:11 iVLosK! wrote:
If you're tweek, you have totally been wrong about me before.

My gut tells me you're WWF.


That was the first game ever, after that I got a taste for VTK and my tastebuds dont lie.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 12:53 GMT
#469

@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.


My posts purpose is to lynch scum, something I haven't seen from you. You criticize me for my post yet it gives you a townread on me? Rather contradictory.

Umasi comes across as a townie to me, albeit one that was gotten to by ivloski.

Pedit: I'm not really new.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 18:27 GMT
#496
On June 06 2013 23:00 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 21:53 Skanjab1s wrote:

@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.


My posts purpose is to lynch scum, something I haven't seen from you. You criticize me for my post yet it gives you a townread on me? Rather contradictory.

Umasi comes across as a townie to me, albeit one that was gotten to by ivloski.

Pedit: I'm not really new.

IvLosK! and Umasi are the only players whose alignment you have an opinion on?


Not at all, but I don't really feel the need to post a list on how I feel about everyone at this point.

On June 07 2013 02:48 Umasi wrote:
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On June 06 2013 23:15 Onegu wrote:

Ok 2 things the first he kept the iV thing going on alot lomger than it needed to be. Secomd and the thing that made me feel the most was he would make a statement and when the majority had different ideals he would conform to them. This is what feels like he is scum.

If I were scum, why would I stay on this train of thought longer than I needed to? It's obviously only drawn attention to myself and basically confirmed iV as town to everyone else. Why is it scummy to stick on it like that?
And I conform to the majority because if everyone else thinks something about the situation, and I'm here thinking something different, but enough people disagree that they can't all be mafia, I realize that I'm probably mistaken and should reevaluate the situation!
Would you prefer I keep tunneling him? Even when it's blatantly counterproductive at that point?


Nice bit of WIFOM you've got there.

##unvote
##vote: Firere345

Da da da dadada dum*
Da da da dadada dum*
Under Pressure, pushing down on me.
Pressing down on you, no man ask for.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 18:43 GMT
#499
On June 07 2013 03:31 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@Skanjab1s what do you make of firere345's asking the mods about a jester? Do you feel its newbie town or scum?


I'd think that a newbie town would have read the rules quite carefully and would know that kind of thing, so added with his sheeping onto iV for a really terrible reason, I'm leaning scum. I do want to hear more from him though.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 19:35 GMT
#503
On June 07 2013 04:27 Umasi wrote:
Why wouldn't newbie scum read the rules equally carefully? A newbie town and a newbie scum have equal interest in the setup of the game, so using it to try to indicate if someone is mafia or town seems irrelevant.
Unless there is a reason I don't see that town would pay more attention to the OP than a scum!

I think commenting on how it seems too easy, and telling us to wait, is more interesting, because it feels like he's trying to be inclusive here, when really it was me talking to myself, getting jabbed by iV, and xzav being logical...
And I don't know why he felt like part of that group?


They would, but as scum it could have been said to make it seem as though he is contributing to the discussion.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 20:40 GMT
#514
Your math is really bad.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 20:43 GMT
#517
Why Xzavier, Gotard?
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 20:55 GMT
#522
On June 07 2013 05:49 Gotard wrote:
I will quote myself
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 02:25 Gotard wrote:
Xzavier seemed to be a scum (after following Umasi's accusations) but then he had some awesome pro-town posts.

I am more confused than sure of anything (and I think I should be in game like this). This is like someone calls a random guy scum and then you have other guy saying "YEAH! BURN HIM!" for no good reason.


Yes, but why did he seem to be scum? What about his posts gave you the belief that he could be scum?

And why do you still want to lynch him if he had "some awesome pro-town posts"?
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 21:11 GMT
#525
Dude what.

You thought he was scum because he cooperated with Umasi?

But now you think he is town because his cooperation lead to stuff happening, or something?

And you still want to lynch him.

Whut.

##Unvote
##Vote: Gotard
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 21:25 GMT
#528
Gotard you still haven't said why you want to lynch someone who you said had "some awesome pro-town posts".
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 21:38 GMT
#533
You're backtracking now,
You said that if you had to vote you would lynch Umasi or Xzav, so obviously he was in the top2 of your "who-I-want-dead" list. Which doesn't make sense since you implied that you had a town read on him previously.

Furthermore, you can't even say what you find scummy about him, besides for a connection-theory which also doesn't indicate much since neither of their alignments are known (to town, at least).
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 22:13 GMT
#542
Does not compute. A few pro town posts don't necessarily mean he is innocent, but it sure as hell does mean that he shouldn't be your #2 lynch when you cant say a bad point about him (I've already explained why the connection theory is silly).

Using the reasoning that "You can never be 100% sure who is who" to justify wanting to lynch someone who you had a townread on is just nonsensical.

I'm very happy with where my vote is today.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 13:08 GMT
#600
On June 07 2013 21:52 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I don't think Gotard is scum, just a very newb townie. His posts are completely lacking in self confidence and he gives the minimalist of readings on Xzavier and Umasi. His thoughts can be boiled down to "I'm really confused as to who may be mafia but if I had to take a guess I think its Xzavier or Umasi because i think i saw some sheeping going on." But the thing that makes him townie.... he doesn't change his story when pressed. He defends it, knowing he's in a tight spot. If he were scum I'd expect him to back down or change in some way. But he keeps at it... he's not typing some smartly conceived thought, but his gut reactions. Thats more town indicating than scum.


He did backtrack though from his initial post, he initially said that if he had to lynch, it would be between Xzav and Umasi, but after being pressured he said that he doesn't actually want Xzav dead.

Then he used that terrible "Well you can't be 100% sure of everyone!" defense to justify him wanting to lynch someone who he had apparently had a townread on.

I'm getting more of a newbie scum vibe than a new-townie vibe from him.


Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:17 GMT
#625
I'm actually fine with a Firere lynch today too, like what SD said before, that last post is just a rehash of things that have already been said, and the quoting of those pro-town posts had no purpose, other than to make it look like he is contributing.

[quote="Onegu"]I also dont like how skan has jumped votes multiple times, at least iV has given strong reasons.[/quote]

That isn't a scumtell, its a playstyle.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:18 GMT
#626
Sigh fail quotes.

EBWOP:
On June 07 2013 23:23 Onegu wrote:
I also dont like how skan has jumped votes multiple times, at least iV has given strong reasons.


That isn't a scumtell, its a playstyle.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:24 GMT
#628
Is this the strong reasoning that you were speaking about?

On June 07 2013 13:50 iVLosK! wrote:
I like it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Gotard

Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:28 GMT
#630
Uhh my reasons for what?

Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:32 GMT
#634
Because that is how I play?

Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:46 GMT
#637
On June 08 2013 00:42 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 00:32 Skanjab1s wrote:
Because that is how I play?



Anyone else find this scummy


lol
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 15:57 GMT
#644
*Sigh*

Guys, throwing votes on people is not scummy in the slightest, it adds pressure to them and helps me to get better reads on them. fferyllt knows where its at.

fferyllt, why Firere over Gotard?
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 16:03 GMT
#650
I'm getting worried about this Gotard lynch because most of my scummier reads are voting him, and my townier reads are voting Firere (barring iV).
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#654
Why make a random vote if you think Firere is 10% scummier than me?

Gotard pls.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 17:34 GMT
#673
Just dont post what you think their role is ^_^

Also,
##unvote
##vote: Firere345
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 01:11 GMT
#714
Fuck yeah
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 01:20 GMT
#718
LoneMeow looks really bad now

To add to Stimaddict's case:

On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
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On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


Lightly FoS's Firere345, to try to distance himself, but suddenly, when there is a chance to save Fire, he strangely thinks that Gotard's recent posts were more scummy than townie (which is the opposite of what I thought) and declares his read on Fire "weak" (no reason was given for this change, and Firere hadn't said anything to make himself seem less suspicious):

On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all.

##Vote: Gotard


Basically, he does a complete 180 for little reason, when the chance that he could save Firere arose.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 01:20 GMT
#720
I think it is on here, fferyllt
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 01:23 GMT
#722
Thoughts on LoneMeow guys?
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 10:25 GMT
#749
On June 08 2013 11:16 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 10:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
LoneMeow looks really bad now

To add to Stimaddict's case:

On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


Lightly FoS's Firere345, to try to distance himself, but suddenly, when there is a chance to save Fire, he strangely thinks that Gotard's recent posts were more scummy than townie (which is the opposite of what I thought) and declares his read on Fire "weak" (no reason was given for this change, and Firere hadn't said anything to make himself seem less suspicious):

On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all.

##Vote: Gotard


Basically, he does a complete 180 for little reason, when the chance that he could save Firere arose.


Where was the sudden chance? What changed in the gamestate before that vote?

I mean that the votes were very close, so he only needed 1 person to change vote to lynch Gotard. That is the chance.

On June 08 2013 16:38 Xzavier wrote:
Hno like when i try to think of gotards posts as if he were scum: its suicidal. Like how stupid do you hav to be to consistantly attack the confermed town. firere's flip also supports him being town. Is it safe to say no scum bussed firere? cuz he only got lynched by one vote? this gives us a list of people to check on.

Somebody tell me if the above is correct logic pls?


You aren't confirmed town

On June 08 2013 13:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 13:10 Xzavier wrote:
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?


Yeah I got that also, but I didnt really get a gotard being scum feeling in the first place, but I had a null feel on fire also so I dont know where that leaves me. I would like lonemeow to respond some more before placing a strong read on him. I just dont like how skan just refused to give good answers to me. I still have a scum read on umasi at this point, but mybe my bandwagon thing without good reason is just off base.


Geez, for the last time, you were accusing me of something that isn't a scumtell. Thats like me saying "Hey, do you like bunnies? Then you're scum!" Its silly.


Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 10:36 GMT
#751
Do you like bunnies?
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#753
Scum^^!

Onegu, most of my initial votes are pressure votes, after someone had said something that I thought could be scum indicative, and I use them to pressure people so that I can get better reads on them. If I had to announce that they are pressure votes, then it defeats the entire purpose.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 12:20 GMT
#766
Gotard likes bunnies too.

Pressure isn't a bad thing Gotard.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#769
I think I let my metaphor get away from me :D

Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 09 2013 02:54 GMT
#817
Unfortunately his D2 playstyle is to spam the thread with NFL gifs
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