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Hydra Mini Mafia II - Extra Nuke Edition

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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
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April 12 2013 02:37 GMT
#145
wonder which hydra this is
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VIVAX420
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April 12 2013 22:44 GMT
#196
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VIVAX420
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April 12 2013 23:00 GMT
#214
Marv is town, VE not so sure.
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VIVAX420
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April 12 2013 23:03 GMT
#218
Just kidding I have no idea yet.
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VIVAX420
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April 12 2013 23:08 GMT
#224
On April 13 2013 08:05 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Well anyway Vivax, was that a complete joke, or do you have a semblance of a town-read on marv? Too early to tell for me, but I'm curious to hear your own thoughts.


Complete joke.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:13 GMT
#227
On April 13 2013 08:11 Hapahauli wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:08 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:05 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Well anyway Vivax, was that a complete joke, or do you have a semblance of a town-read on marv? Too early to tell for me, but I'm curious to hear your own thoughts.


Complete joke.


Is this kush or vivax?


It's much more than that.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
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April 12 2013 23:20 GMT
#237
On April 13 2013 08:18 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:08 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:05 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Well anyway Vivax, was that a complete joke, or do you have a semblance of a town-read on marv? Too early to tell for me, but I'm curious to hear your own thoughts.


Complete joke.


Is this kush or vivax?


It's much more than that.


wait theres only one of you?

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm off to work. I'll not just post in quotes when I get back. I can't way much about anything but asskicking with these


You are a very funny man
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:20 GMT
#239
u know its vivax because he uses grammar and shit. not gonna sign because imo it goes against the spirit of the game
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:23 GMT
#243
===========================================================================================

This is the serious bar.
Everything under this bar is serious business.

I want Raynmaster to get in here.

##Vote Raynmaster
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:35 GMT
#255
On April 13 2013 08:28 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:23 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Also I'd just like to direct people's attention to a theme I'm seeing here:
FondleMyButtocks
ShotgunBiceps
FiveTouch
InsertSmurfHere

I knew there was a reason I got aroused when I started reading the thread.

I know I give you a hardon, but srsly get in the game.

? how do you get in a game that has barely started yet except for the derp phase? what do you want him to do? say whose jokes are scummiest?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:38 GMT
#261
imo not out of character for town ve at all
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VIVAX420
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April 12 2013 23:40 GMT
#263
##Unvote
##Vote MockArmor


Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:43 GMT
#266
On April 13 2013 08:40 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:38 VIVAX420 wrote:
imo not out of character for town ve at all


How so?

And who is it that I'm talking to?


like I said I'm not gonna sign but lack of capitalization is a pretty good indicator that its the kush head.
VEs play always reels of anti town. notorious sheeper, disrupter, drama whore, etc
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#274
InsertSmurfHere trying to be friends with FT
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
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April 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#284
don't clog the thread with your petty 100 useless flame plz
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
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April 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#286
ISH what makes you so sure that VE is town that you go as far as to defend him at this stage of the game?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
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April 13 2013 00:02 GMT
#296
ISH why do you say you didn't defend VE? To me it looks like you did.

On April 13 2013 08:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:42 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
What do you think about VE Yamato? Agree or disagree with what I brought up?

Also what is this "line of suspicion" or whatever you're following on me?

COMPLETELY disagree, I think you're 1000% wrong.

And the line of suspicion is that you've been suspicious, Hapa. Should be pretty fucking obvious.


On April 13 2013 08:45 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
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On April 13 2013 08:43 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:40 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:38 VIVAX420 wrote:
imo not out of character for town ve at all


How so?

And who is it that I'm talking to?


like I said I'm not gonna sign but lack of capitalization is a pretty good indicator that its the kush head.
VEs play always reels of anti town. notorious sheeper, disrupter, drama whore, etc

Bish, I'm the drama whore. Town VE looks towny as fuck regardless. You wrong bro.


On April 13 2013 08:48 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
You know damn well town VE could make a post like that, Hapa, and you "voting" for lynching him for being "anti-discussion" or whatever is pathetic and scummy.

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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 00:08 GMT
#312
On April 13 2013 09:03 FiveTouch wrote:
As far as I can see, he isn't defending me because he thinks I'm town, he's defending me because Hapa's reasoning is shitty. Calling out shitty logic isn't alignment indicative, and says nothing about what he thinks I am.

For the record.


If you're town, shouldn't you find it suspicious that someone defends you, an influential player, this early in the game while being pressured, maybe even for poor reasons, by someone else?

I don't understand why ISH denies that he was defending you, he basically had to given that he's attacking Hapa for his arguments against you. That answer reads scared to me.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 00:28 GMT
#331
Come on, some people didn't even post and I'm not guaranteeing for anyone but early tunnels for stupid reasons are something we don't need.

Hapa attacks VE cause he thinks he said anti-town stuff, yamato attacks Hapa cause he says it's not anti-town from VE.
→ not-so-good reasons from both sides. But Hapa's argument could fit into a policy against anti-town play, yamato's possible motives for defending VE and keeping up the comfy tunnel..I find scummy.

All I saw of relevance was Yamato defending FT and then denying that he's defending him, coupled with an early tunnel and excessive aggression.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 00:32 GMT
#334
Shotgun, VE being openly lazy and careless doesn't make him scum, I have to say that keeping to push that as only reason for thinking he's scum doesn't look good, why don't you inquire further if you have a suspicion instead of defending your argument?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 00:43 GMT
#349
OH NO HAPA GO BACK TO YOUR HYDRA
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
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April 13 2013 01:11 GMT
#369
The Capslock thing was Kush

I don't see how the stuff i wrote was "pointless and summarizing", my opinion is very clear in those posts. Summarizing means there's no interpretation in what you write, just recaps, but there's enough interpretation in my posts.

Your and yamato's arguments: Not good.
Your arguments against VE: Bad, not scummy.
Yamato's actions: Possibly scum motivated. But I'll wait for more and especially for the non-posters to post.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:12 GMT
#370
@hapa only one of those were me.. the all caps one lol. I'd prob think vivax was scum if I wasn't hydrad with him. I guess that is just his playstyle though.

I'm serious though you can't be on hapa that is a violation of the rules I think.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#374
You seem to like a lot of people, any shot at who you find scummy JM?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#375
On April 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Well I beat you to Kush (pretty sure vivax hasn't posted yet). He felt very uninvolved in the conversation and posting out of obligation rather than anything.


Are you reading this game wtf.... obviously we have both talked and there are huge differences between how we talk.
-kush
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:26 GMT
#378
On April 13 2013 10:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 10:21 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Well I beat you to Kush (pretty sure vivax hasn't posted yet). He felt very uninvolved in the conversation and posting out of obligation rather than anything.


Are you reading this game wtf.... obviously we have both talked and there are huge differences between how we talk.
-kush


Yeah I wasn't reading very carefully whilst responding to like 4 people at once. Anyway yes you're both on, however that does reveal how little you've posted thusfar.

All I see in your filter read-wise is calling VE a drama whore and soft-pushing suspicion on Yamato.




-Vivax
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:47 GMT
#385
Hapa I think you're seeing things.
Voluntarily or not, that's still to determine. All I see is VE saying that he's about to go away for a jokish reason, but then being there anyway.

How does that post imply that he wants to stop discussion? Is he asking you to stop talking with others?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#388
I don't like GK's absence after our pre-game exchange. He was a very active starter as town in The Game.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#391
I'll try to summarize (yes summarize) the situation:

Hapa picks VE to push.
Yamato picks Hapa to push.
Hapa used bad argument against VE.
Yamato uses that argument back against Hapa, but it wasn't the original reason for suspecting him (+ other stuff said about yam).
Hapa either defended his bad argument cause he's scared of giving in to yamato and looking scummy, or he believed truly into his argument and only realized it was bad when both him and yamato started to get out of their tunnels.

Either way, I think yamato's push might or might not have been genuine, but same goes for Hapa. What I dislike about Hapa is that he went over to attacking my play for reasons I dislike, but I might be biased here.

We should wait for everyone to post before falling into tunneling, we don't even know if scum posted yet.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:06 GMT
#394
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:04 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 10:55 FiveTouch wrote:
But I'm questioning you here, not the other way around. We'll change topics when I'm satisfied (being the point in the first place right?)

Now, Cheesecake's post is very obviously critical in tone and verbiage (blah blah policy blah, full retard, common sense, savvy?). That much is true. What I'm failing to understand is how you came to the conclusion that I must be pushing an agenda of stifling discussion by me calling the discussion "boring". Boring doesn't mean "useless" or "stupid" or "common sense" or anything dismissive at all. It means that reading it was making me bored. Why no hate at Palmar for fucking off to watch Watchmen? Why no hate for WoC for this?

On April 13 2013 08:23 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Also I'd just like to direct people's attention to a theme I'm seeing here:
FondleMyButtocks
ShotgunBiceps
FiveTouch
InsertSmurfHere

I knew there was a reason I got aroused when I started reading the thread.


I mean, he's in your accusation of me and everything, and here he is, drawing eyes off your case on me with this drivel. No hate for the Cheese?


Why no hate for CC? Because that post was made me giggle uncontrollably. His play so far also has a very different tone from his scum-games. His light-heartedness seems to indicate town.

As for Palmar, that's kinda what he does. I didn't go after him for it for three reasons:
1) It's non-alignment indicative of Palmar
2) Palmar's alignment is usually fairly obvious on Day 1 based on his interest level.
3) I got caught up in 4 conversations at the time.

Also keep in mind that the posts of CC and Palmar are not negative or detracting of discussion. They're just troll-posts. You're making the case that yours was as well, but we've gone over that already.

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Only hate for VE. It stinks of pushing an agenda. This is my problem.


What's bad about going after one player? Tunneling is the nature of the business.

I'd like to think I've made why I went after your post as opposed to others pretty clear just now.




VE going watch the grass grow isn't detracting of discussion or not-trolly either. Is watching the grass grow a legit hobby where you come from?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:16 GMT
#402
You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes.

You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:18 GMT
#403
And yamato's "mistake" I mean would have been: Defending VE at that early point back then when he couldn't be sure of his alignment yet.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:22 GMT
#407
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:19 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 11:16 VIVAX420 wrote:
You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes.

You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie.


Who me?

I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake
*shrug*

As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it.


Your first interest, if you're town, should be finding scummy stuff, not trying hard to keep a good image.
I don't want you to not defend yourself, but all I've seen from you so far is that VE stuff, your defense, and some quick-to-damn shit-shoveling at my posts, and yet you don't appear interested in finding out my motives.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 02:26 GMT
#409
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 11:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 11:22 VIVAX420 wrote:
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On April 13 2013 11:19 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
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On April 13 2013 11:16 VIVAX420 wrote:
You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes.

You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie.


Who me?

I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake
*shrug*

As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it.


Your first interest, if you're town, should be finding scummy stuff, not trying hard to keep a good image.
I don't want you to not defend yourself, but all I've seen from you so far is that VE stuff, your defense, and some quick-to-damn shit-shoveling at my posts, and yet you don't appear interested in finding out my motives.


Well ever since your "middle-finger" post, I've lost interest in you.

And let's be real - I've done more than any person in this game, so don't give me the whole "all I've seen from you" thing.


You deserved that middle finger. First you called my posts summarizing, then I argued why they weren't, then you ignored it and put something else on top. I know when I'm arguing against people who don't want to listen, for whatever reason.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#488
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On April 13 2013 19:30 SamuelLJackson wrote:
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On April 13 2013 10:12 VIVAX420 wrote:
@hapa only one of those were me.. the all caps one lol. I'd prob think vivax was scum if I wasn't hydrad with him. I guess that is just his playstyle though.

I'm serious though you can't be on hapa that is a violation of the rules I think.

This feels a bit off. Why do you say that? It doesn't seem to indicate a mindset of a town hydra. When you know someone's alignment this kind of thought isn't very likely to cross your mind, unless it's a more defensive response, indicative of guilt. What about vivax's posts did you find suspicious, even knowing his alignment?


Don't worry, I'm already taking care of that in the hydra qt+ Show Spoiler +
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:41 GMT
#491
I agree with having everyone nuke themselves.
Kind of exploiting game mechanics but it is a very pro town idea.

JM is confirmed town like 95%. It worries me that VE can't see this and even wants to vote him for it. I've never seen a scum VE before but I am very worried about that hydra.

So I wan't to lynch into these guys
Fivetouch (maybe)

MockArmor (Goodkarma/Mocsta)
Came in the thread, not talking about any of the important stuff. Happy to remain behind the scenes.

FondleMyButtocks (Promethelax/phagga)
joking then lurking

Raynmaster (Oatsmaster/Raynpelikoneet)
no content so far

WaveofCheesecake (WaveOfShadow + Mr.Cheesecake)
joking then lurking pretty heavily. He has tried to contribute since then but nothing he has said inspires a town read.

NeutralSrvivngBalrog (Drazerk/Strongandbig)
total lurker

-kush
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:46 GMT
#493
I think MA and FT look townie actually. Yamato seems to have gotten more reasonable which is a town tell, that leaves Hapa for me as scummy candidate.

Review of WoC, NSB and FMB pending. Waiting for Oats + Rayn to post, Oats is kinda active as town, I think.

##Unvote


-Vivax
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:50 GMT
#497
I disagreed with kush on the mod thing confirming JM as town initially. But I've also thought a little about it and came to the conclusion that a host wouldn't show so obviously that it was a fakeclaim, if the launcher was mafia.
It's very hypothetical but I can also see where he comes from with that explanation.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 11:53 GMT
#500
I've only read GK so far I think. Mocsta posted from main acc, retracting my gut-town-read until I read properly, actually.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 12:34 GMT
#510
He won't commit because he's scum


Interesting, do you think I'm not committed? If I suddenly called yamato town at that point, or Raynmaster, do you think that you wouldn't remind me of what I said earlier about them? I am committed with all judgements I gave out, I'm just not sitting in a tunnel against someone, which is what you're accusing me of not doing.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 12:41 GMT
#512
That case looks kinda forced mate, you also look squeaky and scared in the post where you justified yourself for being at work.

Other stuff about you:
Nuke policy talk
A post about Dan's hosting being unacceptable
This pretty bad case

Here, I'll commit.

##Unvote
##Vote FondleMyButtocks
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 12:44 GMT
#514
omgus is a pretty lazy argument, it's like a little kid screaming "I did it first"
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 12:46 GMT
#516
No u
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 13:13 GMT
#517
mechanics post

whose idea is it to claim nukes? this is dumb because scum won't claim and they will wait until the defense guy is dead.

everyone nuking themselves is a good idea that no one has talked about yet for some reason. The only issue with it is that it won't work if scum can undo their in thread nuke with a pm to the host.
_
Today I will try to get scumreads and narrow down who I want to lynch. Vivax and I don't agree on anything though, lol.

kush
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 13:31 GMT
#519
because.mod wouldnt do that if he was scum. it could be some scum plan or something. dandel would be way more careful about not wanting to reveal anything.
I don't know why you expect me to have an original thought about something so straightforward.
I thought he was conf town as soon as dandel did it and that hydra said lol I'm conf town now.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 13:36 GMT
#520
psa fucking use your hydra not your normal account. I don't care about flood control...your desire to spam up the thread does not supercede game rules. Also using your normal account,.you are hiding from the filter.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 16:15 GMT
#579
oats bro . one master to another. dont flame plz. it hurts my soul.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 18:00 GMT
#604
On April 14 2013 02:24 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
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On April 14 2013 02:17 MockArmor wrote:
On April 14 2013 01:59 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2013 00:02 MockArmor wrote:
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On April 13 2013 23:54 raynmaster wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2013 23:47 MockArmor wrote:
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On April 13 2013 23:42 raynmaster wrote:
On April 13 2013 23:35 MockArmor wrote:
On April 13 2013 23:19 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Mocsta you didn't answer my question. Why did you attempt to make a big deal out of a person posting something that in essence looked like a confirmation post and a post implying that he was going to bed? The complaint in general feels false given that the game had just started and it doesn't seem like you could have genuinely felt frustrated by the state of things at the time of the post.

The question should not be addressed to Mocsta.

Regardless; I have been content with the posting of my partner..

I also believe the post you have chosen to bring attention is, contains a valid opinion of thread sentiment.

Rather, I think it is you, who is choosing to elucidate matters of the minutiae to the fore.

Why would you not want a player you are talking to in the first place to answer?
Are you gonna try to get out of bad spot by letting your partner to answer a question directed to someone else?

/rayn

That answer was clearly written by Mocsta.

As is this response.

What is your point?

Are you suggesting that I am able to elucidate the inate thoughts of GoodKarma at the time of writing?

What i do know is that the post in question, shared the same sentiments I felt at the time.
The thread was too spammy; too crazy; and too emotional.

Hey do you have any reads? Or expand on your hapa read please.
Yes, we have reads.

To expand on Hapa: We don't perceive him as scum; nor an entity to invest further time into this cycle.

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In my opinion, town Hapa is quick to jump to conclusions, and just as quick to re-evaluate his reads and make his current stance visible. I think that occured today.

Well, you go through the trouble of digging up something potentially scummy from Hapa and question him about it. After a few hours of lurking, you guys suddenly come to the conclusion that Hapa is probably town (or something to that effect) and deem him no longer worthy of pursing today. I understand the stance, but what I don't understand is why, if you have initial suspicions of Hapa, that you're willing to let him off the hook so easily and not entertain the possibility of investigating him this cycle.

Firstly, you have a keen enough eye to pay attention to our posts; yet, are not observant enough to notice that the early pressure on Hapa was solely GK.
FYI,
I entered the thread roughly 4 hours, caught up; gave my reads to GK.
Let me quote him hhaha (cos i was surprised too)
"I agree ironically with pretty much everything you've said".


Secondly, you have a very strong choice of words here Wave.
"let him off the hook so easily" // "a few hours of lurking"; if I didnt know better, I would think you are calling me scum. Yet, I do not see a vote or a case for the accountability I was talking about earlier.

To answer your question; I didnt think a ##FoS was hard pressure; thus enabling "letting off the hook easily".


Thirdly, (to address the crux of your concerns) you present your opinion as if reads are not subject to change.
Why is this?
I explained why I let Hapa off the hook in short. You still have not explained in detail what the dispute is?


Lastly, "I understand the stance" what does this actually mean?


I'm not calling you scum, nor do I believe you are at this stage. My point remains that FoS's in general are very noncomittal and, if you are scum, that is your way out, and the brief clause you provided to claim Hapa = town was fairly generic in flow with the thread.

"I understand the stance" = I know what your stance is on Hapa currently.

MA, what's your read on Rayn after all the "AHMIGERD GIMME READS" stuff?


Then why are you talking?
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April 13 2013 19:39 GMT
#643
Fmb is scum. That balrog dude's inactivity is starting to look scummy too.

-vivax
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#646
SLJ oticed too that the case against me was like: let's make a case against vivax, i'll just throw together some badly looking stuff we can find and write some other stuff under it that makes it sound bad.
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April 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#648
On April 14 2013 04:54 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
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On April 14 2013 04:52 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
On April 14 2013 02:41 SamuelLJackson wrote:
FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me.

On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote MockArmor


Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!

the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.

It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote.

His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post.

Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?


Nope, not gonna write it. At the time when i said that to prom it was about how I felt that GKs posts were constructed, and missing pretty much the free flow that you also accuse prom of lacking. However, after rereading his filter in CT I was reminded that this just seems to be the way he posts. Also, Mocsta has since then added a lot to their filter, and I don't see how their behaviour is pushing a scum agenda.

reading up on some filters, will post more in the next hour. Also, I wonder where NeutralSrvivingBalrog is.

I'll reread some stuff and I'll be back with a few thoughts in the next hour.

What is a scum agenda before the 24h mark of a game? I've never been scum so I'm not really sure. Can anyone enlighten me?


You should ask cheesecake.
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April 13 2013 22:06 GMT
#685
@hapa are you sure about your yamato metaread? because he made one Terribad case and since then has been absent?
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April 13 2013 22:08 GMT
#686
ger use smurf!

but I like how you pointed out that pushing a mislynch on hapa line. that is a scumslip imo.
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April 13 2013 22:13 GMT
#687
##unvote
##vote woc[/b]
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#690
wait the scummy thing I did was say vivax was acting scummy? that is what people keep bringing up. its just me being honest at the expense of being antitown probably. I do it a lot.
If I were you guys I would prob want to lynch vivax because I don't know his meta at all and how he is playing looks scummy to me.
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#691
ya vivax and me, we don't talk LOL
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#702
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On April 14 2013 09:48 kushm4sta wrote:
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On April 13 2013 23:09 FiveTouch wrote:
My vote on Palmar was based on the (perhaps foolhardy) belief that I can make Palmar contribute with pressure. I share the belief that he's most likely town based on mod-action, but I'm so fucking sick of him not doing shit on D1 and then DYING. He only does that shit because you shits let him. "Oh it's Palmar you know, whatever right?" No one wants to make him EARN the N1 shot, in spite of him soaking it up all the time.

Well I want him to earn that shit. He needs to stop being a useless fuck - especially now that he's confirmed town. Stop being a useless little shit Palmar.



So VE claimed that he only voted JM and pretended to think JM was scummy in order to pressure Palmar into being more active.
I am having trouble believing that. fivetouch

On April 14 2013 09:51 kushm4sta wrote:
mostly because of how futile the move was obviously going to be

-kushbtw

On April 14 2013 10:58 kushm4sta wrote:
k WaveOfCock I want you more dead than ever right now.

1 you act like the only thing you can do is 1v1 with MA. If you were town you would realize the uncertainty to your reads and that there is more than one scum.

2 shitting up the thread is as much MA's fault as yours, you say. No it's not, because MA kept trying to stop it and you just kept going. Also you realize it is not constructive, yet you say it is your only course of action.

3 Do i realize how scummy it sounds? No because I dont think about the apparent scumminess of my actions. It's called being town.

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#706
@WoC he says multiple times: Im not going to respond to you anymore because I dont want to shit up the thread...conversation over...etc
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#723
I think both mockarmor and woc are town, from skimming. Please look into each other critically.

Fmb and rayn are scum, you heard it here first!

Need to discuss with kush tho.

-v
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#726
Less sure about woc tho
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#848
not really in love with this nuke
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#850
why can't he launch it now wtf
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#858
LOL rayne voting hapa for doing what he does in the beginning of every single game?? ok
shotgun Terrible and unrealistic lynch.

I want to lynch Raynemaster or WoC
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#860
rayne is very on the fence about a lot of things and refuses to definitively state anything until his out of no where vote for hapa.
Again and again he calls people out for doing what he deems as stupid, even tho he thinks they are town. that is his excuse for activity.
many posts like this:
On April 15 2013 00:14 raynmaster wrote:
I really really dislike Mocsta's attitude towards cooperation and 'words'.
But this feels like Town Mocsta unfortunately, I would like to lynch scum mocsta acting like this but meh.
(180 DOODS. actually no, so fuck off)

He continues to misunderstand stuff and generally get all up in someone's face, yeah town mocsta.

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#862
nvm about WoC I guess lol...just read his filter doesn't seem as scummy today
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#863
##unvote
##vote raynemaster

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#869
I'd lynch Neutralsurvivingbalrog. Mostly a policy lynch but I'd do it.
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#888
FMB lynch gets the kush seal of approval. I will vote it if rayn isn't happening.
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#896
I'm tired and going to bed, I support the FMB bandwagon. Not sure what to make of balrog trolling and giving out townreads he might be a good candidate for a nuke.

Possibly didn't read everything , checking back in tomorrow and leaving stuff to kush.

-Vivax
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#916
yeah I will pretty much lynch anyone today LOL (rayn, fmb, balrog)
d1 what can you do. Rayn is an actual scumread but he's not getting lynched so FMB and Balrog are lurkers so they can be lynched too. Balrog is more lurkery of the two, fmb is more scummy of the two.

And I changed my mind about WoC. Yesterday he seemed scummy how he couldn't do anything but shit it up with MA, but after actually reading through his filter he didn't seem as bad.

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#952
So if everyone agrees that FMB is a shitty lynch why are we still lynching him?

gogo rayne wagon? what is wrong with it? all I heard is marv say he feels town.
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#962
samjackson is voting for FMB even tho he admitted it's a mislynch wtf
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#967
i give a shit it's just that there are a bunch of people who could easily be scum. Except because of the votes it is now very unlikely that one of those people is FMB. Yet people are still voting for him...
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#972
On April 15 2013 05:26 FiveTouch wrote:
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On April 15 2013 05:25 VIVAX420 wrote:
i give a shit it's just that there are a bunch of people who could easily be scum. Except because of the votes it is now very unlikely that one of those people is FMB. Yet people are still voting for him...


you're still voting for him.

NO IM NOT
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April 14 2013 20:30 GMT
#977
FMB post QT right now please
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#982
On April 15 2013 05:30 SamuelLJackson wrote:
@vivax420 I took a quick peek at your filter and it seems you both agree on the FMB lynch, are voting for someone else and now you are pressuring me to move my vote away from him instantly when I'm considering other options?

I really don't know about FMB. He's not someone I have a solid read on. I was willing to sheep him if no one wanted to kill rayne, but the way the votes are falling he looks less and less like scum.
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#983
Also I don't need reasons for not suspecting WoC. I read his filter. His filter seems like town wrote it. That's all the reasons I have.
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April 14 2013 20:42 GMT
#990
ok fine if it's not allowed by the rules. that would make sense because it would be a huge town tell to have a normal looking hydra qt.

Why is WoC town?
Last couple posts in his filter show town mindset of trying to figure shit out. Also he puts A LOT of effort into metaing.
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#992
ISH
scum's not gonna make a post this long d1
On April 14 2013 14:14 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
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I don't have the time for this now; if I feel it's appropriate I will post the meta case I have on Mocsta tomorrow. I can't be drawin into a million-hour discussion with Mocsta atm; I have too much work to do. The whole point of CC's discussion with Mocsta (for me) was to keep him talking so I could find out more. I don't care what the rest of town thinks about that conversation; the two of us know what we're doing.

And where the fuck are you getting that I have to check everything through with CC? All I said was I don't know why he finds Rayn scummy because we never discussed it.



Actually fuck it, I'll post the short form without proof atm; that'll have to be enough for now. If my meta reads are still shit then they're shit but that's why I wanted to hear more from GK---I'm not 100% cemented on my scumread/meta read and I was hoping GK could confirm in for me one way or another, which it hasn't.


In short, two things. At the time of be making my meta case, Mocsta had already posted a ton without calling anyone scummy; just making careful posts and not giving a solid read on anyone. This is indicative of his early game scum play from both NMM 37 and Hydra I. As town he throws out reads left and right constantly and ACTUALLY MAKES CASES to follow up with his reads and endless lines of questioning, which he hasn't done here. He votes for us here without actually even calling us scum---obviously amounts to the same thing but rubs me the wrong way.


Another random interesting meta tidbit to mention is Mocsta often enters a thread with much fanfare and hysteria, regardless of alignment (though MORE likely to do so as town.)
Hydra mini I (scum) - was there when the game started, lots of trolling, lots of joking around.
The Game (town) - replaced sandro after a day or so, lots of joking, calling people scum, whatnot.
Nomination (town) - jovial lighthearted posting style, throwing votes and shit around at game entry.
NMM 37 (scum) - Enters the thread with lighthearted tone and RNG fluff.

This game he was not around when the game started, and you'll notice he did NOT joke around at all, rather he got supersrs right from the get-go. I believe this is because entering a game late as scum, he missed the 'permissible first few hours joking-around period' and doesn't want to start fooling around when people are actually having discussion for fear he will look scummy for trying to derail. NOTE: He had NO problem joking around in the middle of The Game when he entered because he was town and had no reason to be afraid or look guilty.


Make of this case what you will for now. I might be able to expand on it further with better proof (especially since people are unlikely to go sifting through his meta themselves). CC was asking me to post this much earlier when the discussion was happening but I didn't want to derail trying to learn what I could at the time. I figure it's better out than in right now especially given thread sentiment. I'm going to attempt to study then go to bed but I might be able to check back on the thread a couple more times.

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April 14 2013 21:03 GMT
#1004
dear hapa
you cant read me for shit
love kush
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#1007
hold on im playing dota after i will do so
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#1034
LOL who was the first on rayn hmmm
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April 14 2013 21:50 GMT
#1073
dp don't tell the secret of why i'm town!!!
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April 14 2013 22:06 GMT
#1113
dude i wanted to lynch rayne since i woke up this morning. the rest of you noobs just figured it out like 5 minutes ago
And what is the secret town tell on me?? I dont even know
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April 14 2013 22:37 GMT
#1147
Hmmm I'm not sure about killing syllo. Everyone remember his plan for people to nuke themselves?

On April 13 2013 16:51 SamuelLJackson wrote:
How about we have either have everyone nuke themselves? It's seems very likely that at least mafia has a nuke, and possibly both mafia and town. It's 8-3, but, without taking nukes into account, that doesn't impact the number of mislynches we have, and therefore I think it's very unlikely that mafia has no roles given how much everyone being a hydra favors town. With this assumption at worst we get a 1-1 trade and if there's an anti-nuker, we could even decide to save one.


Not a bad plan and I wouldn't expect mafia to come up with something like this.
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April 14 2013 23:48 GMT
#1187
^that man is so town
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#1204
On April 14 2013 13:40 VIVAX420 wrote:
I think both mockarmor and woc are town, from skimming. Please look into each other critically.

Fmb and rayn are scum, you heard it here first!

Need to discuss with kush tho.

-v


Taking swag away from DP cause I'm jelly.

But tbh I can't remember asking for qts to be posted. Where did you see it? Maybe it was kush.
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April 15 2013 03:49 GMT
#1205
ya it was me. WoC why is FT conf town?
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#1293
Sam is looking really scummy to me right now.

I thought that you couldn't undo thread nukes with pm, but his excuse that he just didn't know you could pm nukes is not likely.

Not giving a shit is a huge scumtell for sandroba. He hates playing scum.
in fact I don't think sandroba has been in the thread once.

marv why are you even talking about saving him? not gonna happen nor should it.
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#1297
On April 15 2013 21:46 FiveTouch wrote:
P.S. why don't you want to kill me this game? Is it because I'm with VE? heh.

town read unfortunately.
The last scum is between FMB and NSB I think.
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#1299
I read the above post. woc is scum I guess probably.
good post and the association looks pretty fishy.
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April 15 2013 15:05 GMT
#1302
woc who is scum?
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#1309
wow woc I'm embarassed for thinking you are town over the past 24 hours
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#1324
[QUOTE]On April 13 2013 20:51 FondleMyButtocks wrote:

ATTENTION TOWN
this is the plan.
We get everyone with a nuke to claim that they have it.
"Why would we do that?" I hear you ask. We would do it to ensure that scum with a nuke (which based on the balance for this game is almost assured to exist) must claim it today if he wants to use it. On top of that NO ONE SHOULD FIRE A NUKE EVER! we have three mislynches in this set-up and I'm confident in our powers of intuition. Our scum hunting AS A UNIT is good enough to catch all the scum. We don't want any single player being a fool and ruining this town with their power role and we want to force all scum to not use their kp powers.
So, in conclusion we should
1) force everyone with a nuke to claim and
2) policy lynch anyone who uses a nuke
/QUOTE]

Hm
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April 15 2013 15:49 GMT
#1326
But looking at the rest of the filter, I actually stopped thinking he scum.

The nuke is prolly on the right way. Shotgun Biceps and WoC next candidates for scrutiny.
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April 15 2013 15:50 GMT
#1327
Oh and the Balrog dude obviously. Three candidates, two scum. Maybe FT but prefer to not think about it atm.
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#1328
I disagree with myself. woc all the way
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#1339
On April 16 2013 01:10 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
According to Yamato, Kush is a massive troll and only ever busses as scum. So if he calls someone mafia that flips town, he's probably town.

As odd as it sounds, the fact that Kush didn't like Rayn bothers me. I'll reread again later.

WHAT A DOUCHE
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April 15 2013 16:28 GMT
#1341
dp you are wrong. I can meta you perfectly.
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April 15 2013 17:02 GMT
#1365
What about ShotgunPhallus marv
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#1367
i am a massive troll btw

-kush
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#1377
On April 15 2013 07:16 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
There are tons of confirmed townies. Anyone could get shot really.


SB can you list the confirmed townies pls

Marv you have townread on SB?
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April 15 2013 20:02 GMT
#1399
For the case that SLJ flips town, I'd be interested into hearing NSB's and WoC's opinions on my alignment. Wouldn't surprise me if they started pushing my lynch.
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April 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#1430
marv actually convinced me the fondle lynch was terrible. he prevented me from sheeping that when it looked like rayne was going no where. So his actions definitely did serve a town purpose.

also hapa lol. your metaread is so one dimensional.

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#1433
woc you are trying to buy town points by townreading obvtown?
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#1435
On April 16 2013 05:24 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
VE - I didn't tell you anything. I don't necessarily think he's scum---this is another one of those cases where CC and I have a lot of talking to do about it so I don't have anything to say about it yet; and any mention of it is likely going to make you guys shit up the thread like when you were arguing with DP.

Hapa/jampi - Kush first looked as though he wanted to lynch me (along with Vivax) before switching to Rayn. I don't see the point in admitting the fact that that once he read our filter at the time he figured we were town since he then goes on to say he'd lynch basically anyone else that day.

He can't be both scum and bussing his teammates and scum protecting townreads for cred---pick one and go with it. Also if he were scum and bussing teammates sine he pushed me first before calling me towny would you then assume I was scum too?


First wanted to lynch FMB actually, then gave you and Mockarmor a townread actually, along with saying that I had Rayn as scum. Only been suspecting you lately although I'm not entirely sure why, JM thinks you're town and you seem to disregard me as lynch choice for tomorrow when it would serve your own survival (although it's basically just Shotgun pushing me), so that gives you some townie points.

Kush just kushed and is gonna kush what he pleases, our early reads were quite different but are getting similar now.

Shotgun, FT and NSB are those I'll be looking at closely. Not so much to look at with SNB looks like he's just going to martyr at this stage already, I'm not buying that behaviour from a town perspective so that makes him look scummier imo. Would expect scum to be demoralized after that lynch, and he can't try too hard anyway all of sudden cause it would look too inconsistent with his lurky and kinda useless D1 play, and I don't believe he would act all emo as town when we just got a scum lynched. Likely scum.

-V
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#1437
Those are my reads of people I could see as being scum.
Will post reasons when I feel arsed to, maybe I don't even have to if town doesn't need me to dig up information to find the scum.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:07 GMT
#1439
I remember it like this: Lynch Vivax, lynch Vivax, lynch Vivax
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:08 GMT
#1441
hapa I want to lynch woc. I made that very clear except vivax disagrees so maybe that is where your confusion is coming from

ksuh
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#1444
Bleh, Hapa did really make a very early case against Rayn -.-. Right after I said he scum, second in the row.

Well stop pushing us then, you're wasting our energy, we are town.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#1447
ya I'm not making a case for you hapa when other people have already made a bunch of good cases. stop being the scumhunt police
kush
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 15 2013 22:23 GMT
#1499
No point in getting mad about him. He's prolly frustrated scum, can't really blame him for that.

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