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On April 15 2013 05:36 VIVAX420 wrote: Also I don't need reasons for not suspecting WoC. I read his filter. His filter seems like town wrote it. That's all the reasons I have.
Yeah but what in his filter holycrap
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Honestly Yamato, I'm just terribly worried that we're repeating Hydra 1, where I psycho-tunneled WoS for not reading the thread on N2. He wasn't under any real pressure this game, so I don't see why he would be motivated to "get his ass into gear."
I read his filter again, and I'm still not feeling it. Even if the WoS half is different (more joking), it feels like he's putting in the effort, and the CC half feels townie. Furthermore, if they were scum, why would htey have WoS doing the heavy lifting, when CC is far and away the better scum-player?
Anyway I'm leaning towards lynching Rayn or VIVAX right now. When I read through Vivax's half, I dont' really see why I considered him all that townie in the first place. Rayn is scummy for what I mentioned previously.
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I think he's someone to nuke, not to lynch.
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If we truly can't find anyone to consolidate, we can always move onto NSB. Until then, our time is better spent sorting out some of the other candidates.
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And can someone explain to me why we considered Vivax to be town? I'm reading through his half again and can't figure out why I can excuse Kush's behavior.
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DP, talk to me about Vivax/Kush. Whaddya think of them?
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On April 15 2013 06:03 VIVAX420 wrote: dear hapa you cant read me for shit love kush
You'll notice that I'm not voting you right now, because I have quite a lot of doubts. You can make this much easier for me by posting your reads and coherent thoughts. Please do that.
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Actually fuck it, I'm pretty sure Rayn/Oats are scum:
##Vote Raynmasta
Their filter is comprised of three things: 1) Saying "EVERYONE IS SCUMMY" 2) Defending themselves 3) "Tunneling" myself far beyond when it was fashionable.
In particular, I think this quote is damning:
On April 15 2013 00:59 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 23:34 MockArmor wrote: raynpeli No I'm accusing you of trying to contribute in the thread without providing accountability. This is because your entire dialogue with your "scum read" is subject to change pending on discussion with oats.
That's bullshit. Full stop.
Further, the exchange with *your/raynpeli* scum read, five touch. Does not even read as if you are talking to someone you are suspicious of.
Thirdly. Let's pretend you were genuinely suspicious of five touch. Why the need to consult with oats regarding your scum read. You should be engaging and probing fiveotuch as much as you can. Instead you are reaponding to questions he asking of you. In addition to hiding all accountability behind oats.
This is scummy shit, and again the whole exchange does not read to me as if you are talking to a scum read.
I can't question marv about things VE said, and that was the only thing i wanted to question them about. I don't think you should not answer questions from people you think are scummy, but if you think so there's nothing i can do about it. I just explained marv what i thought at that time when he asked me about it. Had it been VE questioning me i would have acted differently.
I don't think FT is scummy anymore. I read Hydra 1 and this game VE posts and VE was quite different in that game from what i can tell. Oats is saying the same thing. I can't be around @ the deadline, i consider NSB / FMB / VIVAX420 the scummiest atm. Vivax only because i can't understand much they are saying. Oats gotta decide who we gonna lynch.
Where did these reads come from? He spends most of his filter talking about Mock, Matrix, and myself.
Really his only scumhunting contribution is jumping onto my wagon and placing his vote on me when it's clear that it would be wasted.
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And to emphasize, neither Rayn nor Oats ever talks about NSB/FMB/VIVAX in any substantial form. It looks a lot like they pulled that read out of their ass.
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So are we going to get the details of this town-read of yours marv?
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On April 15 2013 06:41 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 06:40 ShotgunBiceps wrote: So are we going to get the details of this town-read of yours marv? i've talked about it already.
You mean you find him town only because his case on me was "unnecessary?" Is that it?
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Where did Syllo go in all of this?
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Things that happened:
On April 15 2013 03:38 SamuelLJackson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 03:34 FiveTouch wrote:On April 15 2013 03:31 SamuelLJackson wrote:On April 15 2013 03:29 FiveTouch wrote:On April 15 2013 03:27 SamuelLJackson wrote:On April 15 2013 03:19 FiveTouch wrote: Here's my main issue with FMB, and I get that some of you may call me silly.
Seems like the trend of the thread, as far as I'm aware, has been meandering along towards an FMB lynch for some time. If he's mafia, is he really that far gone that the other mafia haven't tried to significantly push an alternate lynch?
Seems like we're just gonna lynch FMB and that's that, no real questions asked.
syllo, what do you make of this? If I remember correctly you're usually pretty aware of these things. Palmar too.
~marv I'm not sure if I agree with the notion that the thread has been meandering towards fmb lynch, but if prom or snb are mafia and really absent, mafia may have adapted a wait and see approach. That is, waited for the mafia to show up to defend himself. Well, it's been pretty damn clear to me to be honest. Who else do you think the thread has been wanting to lynch? There's been plenty of arguments and plenty of back and forths, some suspicions thrown around, but FMB has been the main dude people are universally suspicious of. This is the kind of thing I see players like you and Palmar talk about in obsQTs. "well when a lynch goes this easily on day 1, it's rarely on mafia." ~marv Who do you want to lynch then? I don't have time to reread, though perhaps sandro will before the deadline. I've been umming and ahhing about lynching NSB, not because I can point to anything specifically scummy in his filter, but because he's even more of a lurker than FMB, and has received disproportionately less attention. ~marv If drazerk/snb are mafia, why did drazerk show up, make a few nonsensical posts and disappear? He doesn't seem to give a shit about his survival, which seems about what I would expect from him as town.
On April 15 2013 05:42 SamuelLJackson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 05:31 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Honestly, at this point I'm not going to lynch Prom.
Vivax420/NSB/WWoC
Pick one, bros. I could get behind vivax420/ nsb/FMB, who looks actually like a good wagon if vivax is scum. I'm not feeling the woc.
"SnB Draz are totally town."
"But I could totally get behind that lynch. "
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So whatever the Reyn flip, we take a look at Syllo and NSB tomorrow.
Syllo needs to be hanged for promising to do shit and not doing shit.
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Nuke Syllo tommorrow.
kthxbai
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Oh can we nuke at night? Wasn't aware.
Anyway I'd rather give syllo the chance to speak up just in case he's indeed busy with RL. Though it'll be hard to excuse his behavior around the deadline.
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On April 15 2013 07:06 VIVAX420 wrote: dude i wanted to lynch rayne since i woke up this morning. the rest of you noobs just figured it out like 5 minutes ago And what is the secret town tell on me?? I dont even know
Admittedly you love bussing your teammates as scum. But yeah you're probably town anywho.
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On April 15 2013 07:08 John Matrix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 07:06 VIVAX420 wrote: dude i wanted to lynch rayne since i woke up this morning. the rest of you noobs just figured it out like 5 minutes ago And what is the secret town tell on me?? I dont even know Read my case and prolonged push. I am taking the credit buddy 
You voted him as I was typing my post =(
But yeah you were on him for quite a while. Two correct D1 lynches in a row - good going DP
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FMB is probably town due to the voting dynamic. Not too worried 'bout BH.
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