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On April 08 2013 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:52 marvellosity wrote:On April 08 2013 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Palmar is right, btw, if I were mafia I'd never have made myself look bad over the Axle lynch. It's exactly the same thing that happened to me in Fruity, I looked really bad for opposing a yamato lynch Day 1 who flipped mafia, because I was pushing Vivax (mafia) instead. Shit happens.
That's just WIFOM. If you are mafia this is just what you were supposed to do if Palmar is town. You just made a good friend who can't possibly think you would do that as mafia because of meta and shit. It's not just WIFOM, because the alternative is that I make myself look good by calling Axle probably mafia and hammering him like the rest, then we wouldn't have to have this conversation at all. That was my alternative if I'm mafia. That's not WIFOM, that's analysing a specific player and the actions he's likely to take, which is what the game's all about. How is it a good alternative when you have called him not-likely-to-be mafia before and he hasn't posted since then?
Because scib gave me an out by asking me to look at Axle in more detail. One that in my great wisdom as a potential scummer I decided to take by... looking at his filter and deciding I still wanted to lynch Ace despite the fact that the Axle wagon was heading towards the lynch, and so I actively decided to make myself look bad instead. That's the scenario we're playing with here and it's silly.
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On April 08 2013 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't think Tunkeg flip-flopped about no-lynch. His last comment could be also seen as frustration as his lynch was not going through. And i think he was pushing his lynch, people just didn't listen (many people were suspicious of WoS at that time and WoS was a leading candidate before people started voting for Ace). I don't know what that makes him. What i do not like is that he brought the no-lynch thing up in the first place, didn't so anything after that, and before that all he did was going after WoS.
You didn't really understand what I was getting at with what I posted because I don't really know what you're talking about here.
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Anyway I'm not going to talk about me at all anymore, because it's boring. Only others :D
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On April 08 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 21:54 marvellosity wrote:Here's something I find interesting: On April 08 2013 04:40 Tunkeg wrote:
So anyone here? Or is everyone content with a no-lynch? Because if you are, I will say fuck it, and go to bed. If not I will stick around abit longer. On April 08 2013 04:50 Tunkeg wrote:
Palmar. Do you prefer a WoS lynch over a no-lynch? Seems to clearly not want a no-lynch. On April 08 2013 06:07 Tunkeg wrote:
yeah yeah, looks like my push on WoS is going nowhere. I am off to bed. Good luck and good night... His lynch isn't gaining traction so he leaves, leaving his vote uselessly parked on WoS, basically saying "i'm happy with a no-lynch". So you are saying he first was against no-lynch and then was okay with it when a couple of people switched to Ace? He had his vote on WoS who was another candidate at that time. Is his only option to switch to Ace? He already did push WoS lynch and then he went away. I don't think that's necessarily mafia behaviour. He could have genuinely gotten frustrated about his lynch gaining no more support, had no other candidate and just left his vote on the other candidate at that time. Why do you think he would say that last quote if he was mafia? Why not just leave and say nothing?
It amounts to the same thing?
And yes, that is basically what I'm saying. He was happy to push WoS at Palmar on the basis that a WoS lynch was better than a no-lynch. But then when WoS looked like he wasn't getting lynched, he didn't bother to stick around to find a good alternative, he just buggered off. He had no interest in finding a good alternative lynch at all. Convenient to leave your vote on someone who isn't getting lynched when you know the deadline is later that night.
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That's one of the main differences between Tunkeg and prplhz by the way; prplhz cared enough to stick around and make something happen, even if you don't like other stuff about his play. Same with you.
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Obviously scum care much less about arriving at a good lynch than town, I don't even understand how you're asking me that :/
If you really want to go into it, the Ace-being-mafia theory supports what I'm saying about Tunkeg, because Tunkeg's alternative for consolidation at the time he left the thread was....... Ace. Probably best to go "oh no, my lynch has failed, woe is me!" and bugger off, ya?
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On April 08 2013 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Obviously scum care much less about arriving at a good lynch than town, I don't even understand how you're asking me that :/
If you really want to go into it, the Ace-being-mafia theory supports what I'm saying about Tunkeg, because Tunkeg's alternative for consolidation at the time he left the thread was....... Ace. Probably best to go "oh no, my lynch has failed, woe is me!" and bugger off, ya? Do you actually believe ace wouldn't tell him to bus at that point?
Ace avoided the lynch. So, no.
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On April 08 2013 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Obviously scum care much less about arriving at a good lynch than town, I don't even understand how you're asking me that :/
If you really want to go into it, the Ace-being-mafia theory supports what I'm saying about Tunkeg, because Tunkeg's alternative for consolidation at the time he left the thread was....... Ace. Probably best to go "oh no, my lynch has failed, woe is me!" and bugger off, ya? Why not try to push WoS harder? His reasons were solid enough to make a lot of people think WoS might be scum in the first place.
He pushed WoS plenty hard, but WoS was off the table. This is pretty clear from the thread.
Use the # button on his final post before he went to bed, and scroll back a page or two.
Palmar and I had recently voted for Ace, he was clearly a hot topic, but Tunkeg didn't see fit to even mention Ace.
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On April 08 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:On April 08 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Obviously scum care much less about arriving at a good lynch than town, I don't even understand how you're asking me that :/
If you really want to go into it, the Ace-being-mafia theory supports what I'm saying about Tunkeg, because Tunkeg's alternative for consolidation at the time he left the thread was....... Ace. Probably best to go "oh no, my lynch has failed, woe is me!" and bugger off, ya? Do you actually believe ace wouldn't tell him to bus at that point? Ace avoided the lynch. So, no.
er... I mean, obviously I believe that, because Ace didn't get lynched. Axle wasn't even really on the cards at that stage.
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On April 08 2013 23:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:On April 08 2013 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:On April 08 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Obviously scum care much less about arriving at a good lynch than town, I don't even understand how you're asking me that :/
If you really want to go into it, the Ace-being-mafia theory supports what I'm saying about Tunkeg, because Tunkeg's alternative for consolidation at the time he left the thread was....... Ace. Probably best to go "oh no, my lynch has failed, woe is me!" and bugger off, ya? Do you actually believe ace wouldn't tell him to bus at that point? Ace avoided the lynch. So, no. If he was avoiding the lynch then that would be an even better time to be bussed. When you don't get lynched. 0_o
Obviously the chances of Ace being lynched go up markedly with each person who votes for him. Don't be silly.
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On April 08 2013 23:34 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:On April 08 2013 23:31 DarthPunk wrote:On April 08 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:On April 08 2013 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:On April 08 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
Obviously scum care much less about arriving at a good lynch than town, I don't even understand how you're asking me that :/
If you really want to go into it, the Ace-being-mafia theory supports what I'm saying about Tunkeg, because Tunkeg's alternative for consolidation at the time he left the thread was....... Ace. Probably best to go "oh no, my lynch has failed, woe is me!" and bugger off, ya? Do you actually believe ace wouldn't tell him to bus at that point? Ace avoided the lynch. So, no. If he was avoiding the lynch then that would be an even better time to be bussed. When you don't get lynched. 0_o Obviously the chances of Ace being lynched go up markedly with each person who votes for him. Don't be silly. It's not silly. That is just good scum play. I doubt that a good scum player like ace would let his buddy do something so scummy as that. Also quit with the pre flip associations. It's bad.
rayn asked me a specific question relating to the likely alignments of Tunkeg and Ace in connection with each other. So yes I'll talk about it when I'm asked about it.
It's terrible scumplay because if Tunkeg votes for Ace then the chances Ace gets lynched go up quite a lot, and obviously an Ace-mafia doesn't want to get lynched. What you're talking about is retarded-bus-your-partner-for-no-reason scumplay.
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You know you're making sense when you're mafia-read fully agrees with you!
Wait, what? ;;
^^
What do you make of Tunkeg, sir?
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I've been elaborating for the last two or three pages or so, maybe you should read them dear.
prplhz :< Saw it as soon as I posted but can't fucking edit. Sad times.
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On April 09 2013 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
I've been elaborating for the last two or three pages or so, maybe you should read them dear.
prplhz :< Saw it as soon as I posted but can't fucking edit. Sad times. l2english So its an association thing basically? Like if Ace flips/Tunkeg flips red, they are SCUMBUDDIES? I just see a whole lotta repeating, "He said he didnt want a nolynch but he didnt care about who he lynched"
Right, and that's the nub of it. The connection stuff isn't very relevant, they just happen to be the 2 people I think are mafia.
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Tunkeg, all I really want from you is a person/people you want to lynch and why, not for you to explain your actions.
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By the way, it's nothing to do with throwing your vote around to secure a lynch, it's about you not actually trying to find a good lynch when the rest of town was after the WoS wagon fizzled out.
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On April 09 2013 01:20 Tunkeg wrote:It wasn't all fizzled out I remember: Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 05:01 Tunkeg wrote:On April 08 2013 04:59 marvellosity wrote:
Although I am kinda tempted just to sheep Tunkeg as well, if my ego lets me. I dunno.
Ball is kinda in your court, Palmar. DO IT!
On April 08 2013 06:07 Tunkeg wrote:
yeah yeah, looks like my push on WoS is going nowhere. I am off to bed. Good luck and good night...
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Fine, maybe you had bad luck with the timings, maybe you didn't. I'll wait till you're ready with your case(s) then.
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That's a spectacularly pointless question, dear.
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It's pointless because he can literally say anything. There's nothing to compare the answer he gives to that question with. He could say null, slightly scummy, slightly townie, quite town, whatever.
also
*you're just mad, not you just mad
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