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Im no suicidal scum player. | ||
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On April 09 2013 06:15 TheRavensName wrote: No, but you had Ray play the suicide last game, just like that previous game you played Omni in order to get me to side with you. I don't see why you wouldn't try the same trick again. Ray was everyones town read? In the previous game I was town... what does that have to do with me being scum? | ||
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Raven: If you're town, I want a few things from you today. 1) Extrapolate on the "All of your cases are based on lies/misinterpretations" thing. Quote me and prove I was lying, otherwise you are using a falsified arguement. I concede the Saraf thing, even though I still believe that he was directing that motion at me. 2) Who is most suspect besides me / Obzy to you? Make les cases. | ||
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On April 09 2013 06:22 TheRavensName wrote: Sorry, I meant previous game as in the game with Ray. And um.... Ray never got a single vote on him that wasn't Me or you.... So yes. Ray was a town read I'm assuming? Ray was a town read... that's not suicicide... lol.... I have no idea what you mean by "played omni" but okay. | ||
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My original case for reference: + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 12:12 Rainbows wrote: TheRavensName is a fantastic lynch for today! He didn't do anything of use early game. He was around, but chose to do nothing useful. He barely even talked to me, and pretty much ignored events in the thread. His real 'entrance' post to the thread is here: Notice the complete lack of any sort of read or pressure in the post. Does Raven care about current events, does he look like he's hunting scum? He tells people to not vote me for spammyness, but does nothing to pressure those attacking me for that reason alone. He simply affords people the opportunity to lynch me by coming up with alternate reasons by the end of D1. Where's the scumreads? Vote? Nothing. I hate this defense of NW. "Oh he's just bad townie, we shouldn't lynch him even if he's really scummy" Spare me, Raven. That's bullshit reasoning and you know it. Town has no reason to defend NW right now; Scum does. Scum looks good if he's town and gets lynched, or if they're both scum it's protecting his buddy. Note how he also never gives a read on NW, just calls him bad. Last post, pretty void of any reads whatsoever. The only thing he's pointed out is my vote on Saraf, which the entire thread has already said many times. I hate to meta people, but TRN in previous games was active, scumhunting, and voted early Day 1. He's reserving his vote right now which irks me. He has done no scumhunting this game and is teetering on the edge of null on everybody. ##Unvote ##Vote: TheRavensName P.S. Raven, it's SINCE, not SENSE ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh It summarizes into a few points. This was before my case and Raven lol'd on me. - Raven posts, but his posts come to no logical conclusion. - He defends NW for ? reason because he thinks he's bad town. He just said we shouldn't care about him because he's always like this as town -- bad and scummy. That's scum talk. - He doesn't give reads / scumhunt really. Only read I could find was bad town NW, but that's such a noncomittal read I can't consider it one. TODAY Take a look at what Raven has done today; continued to attempt and get me lynched. First of all, I'm the fucking vigilante. Second of all, it's mainly based on wifom, a night kill which is as good as wifom, and no solid evidence. I'm not going to quote his entire filter, just take a look at it. He still continues to show ZERO scumhunting. He's CONVINCED. See? On April 10 2013 01:26 TheRavensName wrote: Thats okay. I'm still convinced your scum too. Instead of providing a case with evidence, point-by-point, he just sheeps the moloch vote here: On April 09 2013 22:10 TheRavensName wrote: This is one of the first things that stood out to me in Moloch's filter, even if the entire scenario rainbows ended up creatined was little silly I feel it should be asked: By this logic, why did you not at least even vote for Jarjar once? JJD STILL has a one page filter, and Jampi had a 3 page filter day 1. Even Rainbows had a 4 page filter when he made his last post of voting for me, and hes the only other person you voted for. + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 08:14 Moloch wrote: I'll do my best to answer both of these. I didn't particularly want to lynch JJD because, while he exhibited some of the same signs as jampi early-game (only ever talking about one person and never giving their own opinions on anything else), there wasn't nearly as many posts to go on. I realized that he might be scum lurking, but I felt there was a better chance he was just busy than he was lurking with malicious intent. As far as comparing him to Rainbows, the only thing the two of them have in common is that they each made a bad case. Overall, I felt the chance of the entire Rainbows ragequitting being legitimate was higher than being completely faked. While I've been thinking about it post-fact, I've been trying to think about Rainbows' move from a scum perspective. What would it gain them? - It gained them a non-Rainbows lynch. At the time of the explosion, I believe Rainbows was the one on track to being lynched. - It spread a lot of discord. Both of these things are obviously what they want short-term - especially if Rainbows actually is scum. BUT At the time of his declaration, they would have no way of knowing whether there's a real vigi. If there is, it's quite obvious the best thing for him to do is take out Rainbows - something the scum have no way of preventing unless they convince the doctor to protect him - which would result in good discussion and make people's alliance's easier to read. I'm going to wait until tomorrow before I read too much into anything. The scum hitting someone will give us another confirmed townie, so that will change almost every read we can make at the moment. You also completly avoided analysing the Lynch here you were part of causing, good job on that. Nor is there any analysis on the Night kill. So good job on that. Another useless post from moloch+ Show Spoiler + And on an unrelated note and something that really just kind of clicked for me: the lynch, the nightkill, and Rainbow's claimed vigi hit (me), are all people that made cases against him after the initial wave of joke vote anti spammer cases, however poor those case may be. Sorry, I know I promised I would avoid this, but I couldn't help myself ##Unvote ##Vote: Moloch Okay so Raven is convinced I'm scum, but will vote for Moloch. He realizes he can't get a mislynch on me and votes another target. If Raven is so sure I'm scum, why doesn't he PROVE IT. Take a look at this quote: On April 09 2013 05:31 TheRavensName wrote: And you voted for everyone but me that made a semi decent case against you. EXCEPT Warant. Hell and lets look at all of those cases, every single one of them was based off a misinterpreation or a flat out lie/omission of anything that countermands the case even a little bit. Wow. Just wow. Every one of my cases was based on a misinterpretation or lie. QUOTE ME. I've asked him several times but he can't justify this. Where in my filter have I lied in my cases? Please tell me. A sweeping generalization, a nice strawman arguement. Scum use these to summarize things that never even happened. Raven is scum. - He hasn't hunted for scum this entire game, and sat with his vote on me forever. Nothing from him is original, just a rehashing of arguements against myself, and (now) Moloch. - Refuses to give evidence that I am scum, when he is convinced of this fact. He says that I lie / omitt things, but when i ask him to quote me, he cannot. - Is tunneling me, the most emotional guy D1 and the easiest target for a mislynch after last night. Lynch him yo. | ||
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Barring a scum claim, I will not be voting for Moloch today. | ||
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On April 10 2013 02:02 TheRavensName wrote: Rainbows, I've posted my logic and evidence so many times. You don't even pay attention to it. Why the fuck should I waste the time to consolidate it all over again? I'll just get called out for focusing on you. I'm not falling for it. I've asked you many times to prove where I lied, and to give me stuff that is hard evidence as opposed to wifom and bad logic. if you were convinced i was scum, you'd have a decent case building by now. | ||
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if you're a doc/jk you can claim and then lynch me? never even thougt of thaat. | ||
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Everyone in the thread has called me scum, of course all of my votes will seem Please lynch Raven. | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:33 TheRavensName wrote: So that the scum would know all three blue roles? Are you sure your town because that is some pretty blatant blue fishing. 3 blue roles? so you know im blue then. | ||
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