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Moloch
Canada222 Posts
On April 11 2013 15:46 Moloch wrote: The only downside to this is that we'll probably lose Rainbows tonight, and it feels like he gets the best reads on people. We'd probably lose Rainbows tonight anyway, so I guess even that isn't a downside. | ||
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Warent
Sweden205 Posts
This is probably our best option right now. ##Vote nolynch | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
A CORRECT VOTE COUNT: Warent (0) No-Lynch (3) Rainbows, Moloch, Warent Not Voting: JarJarDrinks, Smancer, TheRavensName, nobodywonder, Fishgle Deadline is in 40.5 hours. Voting is mandatory. Currently a No-Lynch will happen! If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
So we a/ll vote nolynch now and then we just wait with our thumbs up our asses until the end of the next night to see who they NK We will have no new information for 72 hours by voting nolynch now. We should at least investigate and analyze events as they are and try to find scum. Pressure our suspects, do some work. If we don't have anything concrete within t-minus 6-8 hours before the lynch deadline, then we all vote nolynch. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On April 11 2013 14:01 Warent wrote: Obzy claim did not make sense from a town perspective. Why? He just gave up the doctor. How the hell is that town motivated? I provided reason why it wasn't a terrible move from a scum perspective. Simple as that. Then this whole day so far is very out of character for you. Quick question since your the guy here who analyzes EVERYTHING from a scum perspective... want to analyze the No lynch vote with no real debate first motivations by rainbows or should I just do that for you? | ||
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Warent
Sweden205 Posts
On April 11 2013 21:11 TheRavensName wrote: Then this whole day so far is very out of character for you. Quick question since your the guy here who analyzes EVERYTHING from a scum perspective... want to analyze the No lynch vote with no real debate first motivations by rainbows or should I just do that for you? Analyzing things from different perspectives can be useful. I think Rainbow did it as a joke (?), not sure though. Molochs reasoning made sense. If you have an analyzis you are obviously welcome to provide it. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On April 11 2013 15:48 Moloch wrote: There is a downside:We'd probably lose Rainbows tonight anyway, so I guess even that isn't a downside. Depends on how confident we are in who we lynch today. I'm pretty certain that Warrent is scum. If everyone else is close to 100%, we should lynch him today and here's why: Rainbows hasn't said anything but I'm gonna assume he was roleblocked again last night. If we hit scum today then there's a 33% chance that we get the roleblocker. Then Rainbow can try to get a shot off tonight. If he hits, then he buys us a mislynch cause we'd be @ 4/1. If he misses, then we're @ 3/2 and still can win. If he gets blocked then we're @ 4/2 and can vote no lynch tomorrow instead of today. I think it's worth it because I'm quite certain Warrent is bad. I think EVERYONE should chime in on this before we decide. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On April 11 2013 21:20 Warent wrote: Analyzing things from different perspectives can be useful. I think Rainbow did it as a joke (?), not sure though. Molochs reasoning made sense. If you have an analyzis you are obviously welcome to provide it. Well put it this way, sense I'll take your job from you the downside of a no lynch is if we pass it, we went from being up 2 votes, to only being up one vote. This would make a quick last minute mass switch tomorrow far too easy. For this reason, I think we should at least discuss it. As to why Rainbows would want to all of a sudden play: He lost Obzy, and out of the 7 people left (Not counting himself or scumbuddies) The only person who has publically stated a favorable opinion of him is Smancer and maybe Moloch (I don't remember seeing it, but I don't not either). Combined with the earlier mentioning of how a no vote today COULD hurt town, and you have motivation for Rainbows to purpose the No lynch from a scum perspective. He would only have to convince at most one person of his claim as opposed to two. | ||
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Warent
Sweden205 Posts
Good points, all three of you. Also from a completely objective perspective you have to consider yourself being lynched, it's 3/8 vs 3/7 that's only 5,4% percent. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
A BIGGER VOTE COUNT: Warent (0) No-Lynch (2) Rainbows, Moloch, Not Voting: JarJarDrinks, Smancer, TheRavensName, nobodywonder, Fishgle Deadline is in ~35 hours. Voting is mandatory. Currently a No-Lynch will happen! If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
@Rainbows, you said earlier that having 3 blue rolls in this format is "stupid op". Well, we now have two confirmed dead blues, and your claim as vig. In regards to the nolynch, here are my thoughts: I've been struggling with how exactly are we going to deduce information from the impending NK ? You said it will give us great information. I am sitting here trying to go through each person left, and trying to determine what it would directly imply if each person, including myself was their target in the night. IN most cases I get into a big heap of circular logic. Furthermore Mafia knows the reason for a nolynch vote is to try and get information. So why would they NK someone who would give us information. If we vote nolynch today, wouldn't they NK the person that they think would give us the least Info, or the person that would throw us the most of the right path? Fact of the matter is, all mafia has to do is pick one of us remaining townies at random, and sit back and watch the shit storm that would follow, while we focus entirely on the NK and not the other events that have happened. I said it before, we have 3 very good things to discuss today before we decide on voting nolynch (well maybe not Obzy claim as he is dead now.). We have to get a correct lynch, whether it be today, or tomorrow after voting nolynch. And the way I see it voting nolynch today could help the mafia as much is it might help us. | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
On April 12 2013 00:47 Smancer wrote: This day is already wasting, there is virtually no activity but lots of things to discuss. @Rainbows, you said earlier that having 3 blue rolls in this format is "stupid op". Well, we now have two confirmed dead blues, and your claim as vig. In regards to the nolynch, here are my thoughts: I've been struggling with how exactly are we going to deduce information from the impending NK ? You said it will give us great information. I am sitting here trying to go through each person left, and trying to determine what it would directly imply if each person, including myself was their target in the night. IN most cases I get into a big heap of circular logic. Furthermore Mafia knows the reason for a nolynch vote is to try and get information. So why would they NK someone who would give us information. If we vote nolynch today, wouldn't they NK the person that they think would give us the least Info, or the person that would throw us the most of the right path? Fact of the matter is, all mafia has to do is pick one of us remaining townies at random, and sit back and watch the shit storm that would follow, while we focus entirely on the NK and not the other events that have happened. I said it before, we have 3 very good things to discuss today before we decide on voting nolynch (well maybe not Obzy claim as he is dead now.). We have to get a correct lynch, whether it be today, or tomorrow after voting nolynch. And the way I see it voting nolynch today could help the mafia as much is it might help us. Well I'm trying to pin the scumteam right now. And I very well may have. The point is, if scum kill me you guys can trust me. If they kill one of the others, then I can be further sure of my reads. We don't have to no-lynch today. It's fine. We just have to kill scum. | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
Or host decided to be friendly to town. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
That means NW, JJD, Fishgle. No last minute shenanigans. ##Unvote ##Vote: Warent | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On April 12 2013 01:25 Rainbows wrote: Because Obzy led the horses to water. Someone has to make them drink. Hmmm, Thats certianly food for thought, one would argue you should have been helping round them up so they could be led. We all know you are capable of that. Well this is probably my last post for today, I got mandatory school functions ontop of classes I have to attend before I take a quiz, draw up a resume, and salvage some kind of grade out of my paper,so...I will see you all tomorrow after my classes around about noon EST. Please do not say mean things behind my back, or I will be very sad. | ||
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