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On May 01 2013 00:03 iamperfection wrote:~~~ Vote Count ~~~
ShiaoPi (9): Ace, VisceraEyes, getmoript, Palmar, Bill Murray, BloodyC0bbler, Hopeless1der, Sharrant, GiygaS
stutters(1): ShiaoPi
Palmar(1): TheRavensName
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This makes me kinda want to lynch Stutters more than before. On the day ShiaoPi was going to die he voted Stutters. ShiaoPi was completely unafraid to assosciate with his teammates, this strikes me as an attempt at distancing them post flip.
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I changed my mind. That is my prerogative. I started paying somewhat more attention to the game and I changed my mind.
Yeah sharrant might actually be scum. I had a pretty strong town read on him early in the game just because he was super active and shit but he could hella be scum.
@sharrant who you want to lynch bro? Just tell me who you think we should lynch right now and how certain you are that they are scum,
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On May 06 2013 10:56 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 06 2013 10:52 Sharrant wrote:On May 06 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 06 2013 10:36 Sharrant wrote:On May 06 2013 10:29 yamato77 wrote:
All I'm gaining from this game is that if you troll day one, you'll never live it down.
20 pages of filter and more analysis of this game than all of you, yet I'm still getting called mafia. It might also have to do with the fact that of the three lynches you pushed on day 1/2, 2 flipped town. Your first list of scum is 3 town, 1 unflipped and 1 3rd party, and that you have a soft defense of two scum thrown in for good measure. I'll grant you that there's some redeeming qualities in your filter, but there's a reason you're going to keep coming up as a lynch prospect in this game. We're not lynching BC today, and we're not lynching Palmar. I want both of them alive for at least another night. There's no way they're both scum, so let's find the one, possibly two that are outside of them. We're not? The vote count would appear to say otherwise currently. I doubt you're getting yamato lynched today; I'm certainly not voting for him. Is he honestly at L-2 right now? And yes, we are not lynching BC today. If I have to stop the wagon on him, I will. And I will not be happy about it. Uh...if you are saying that you have a way to do so, then you probably should if you don't want him lynched....though I'm thinking maybe you already did. He's at L-2, as long as the rest of the people that come into the thread think about things, there's no reason to do anything to defend him right now. I'll try something different here. Yamato: I am telling you that your own analysis will tell you, in the end, that BC is not scum if you stick to what you've said. Now talk to me about two people that would be scum if BC were as good as confirmed town.
Palmar/Hopeless.
I might rethink my town read of kush, but only if they both flip town.
Palmar's claim is convenient. It's also sub-par for what I expect from Palmar, because it was objectively bad and he's not bad enough as town, I believe, to actually make that claim and expect to be taken seriously. There's also all the other stuff I've said about Palmar and his RB claim, plus my general doubts about his play. I've been letting it skate by because of my read of BC, but if I'm wrong about BC, Palmar is literally the next scummiest person, and he looks fairly bad.
Hopeless I've talked about ad nauseum. He tryharded yesterday to look involved, but today he's done little to interact with town, as he has all game. Notably, Palmar also didn't want to lynch Hopeless yesterday because "he had some argument and it made him look townie" which is weak.
I've been saying that these three (Palmar/BC/Hopeless) are the only ones I'm worried about for a reason. I've been asking for the claim for a reason, because confirming one of Palmar/BC virtually solves the game. Unless one of these two flips town, I have no reason to doubt the analysis I've made of this game.
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For all the people who say they're OK lynching Palmar, and with 2 DTs flipped, LET'S VOTE HIM
IF HE WAS REALLY A DT WHY WOULD HE BE ALIVE, WITH OBVIOUSONE KILLED?
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~~~ Vote Count ~~~
Hopeless1der: (1) BloddyC0bbler
Palmar: (1) Bill Murray
BloodyC0bbler: (5) Hopeless1der, getmoript, Palmar, yamato77, Kush
Yamato: (1) Sharrant
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I'm lost. Yamato, BM, geript, tell me what to do.
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What is the probability of having 3 DTs out of 5ish blue roles we should have gotten? miniscule
Palmar is lying, and needs to claim his real agenda, or get some rope
I believe WoS's claim more and more
I feel like Yamato and BC are misguided town
My suspicions of Kush are lessening to where I don't feel he's scum as strongly as before, because he could just be overwhelmed right now with finals and such, like I am... activity doesnt necessarily help you find scum as well as other tells.
Sharrant is going crazy, but I didn't see him break down as mafia last game as mafia with him, so I'm going to give him a pass for now, hoping he will start making less wallposts, and chill out...
Hopeless's game this game seems like townmeta I read from him. Hopeless, could you provide the name of a game you rolled scum?
You know what... Geript is in getmoript as a hydra... seemed WAY more townie in PYP
getmoript is either blue or scum
Palmar's dt shenanigans still have me leaning scum... doesn't seem possible to have 3 DTs... butI don't want to outguess the mod, so I'm going to bite my tongue on the subject
I'm going to iso these 3 players:
giygas
stutters
TRN
tomorrow. Someone remind me. Thanks.
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@Artanis, relating to getmoript - happiness can be found, even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light
Relating to Yamato, need to get our boy to sheep your vote onto Giygas,Stutters,TRN,Palmar. Don't like this BC wagon. What we need to do with BC is different. BC is a good player, has great gut reads, and needs to shy away from being put on trial right now. It's tough to be on the backfoot all game. I want to see my other boy able to shine with us and help the town out....
Force BC to scumhunt, and actually try this game, instead of feeling pressured... He can't go on the offensive, if he's focused on defense
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On May 06 2013 16:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm lost. Yamato, BM, geript, tell me what to do.
Pretty sure we aren't killing BC today.
Would rather see Palmar or Hopeless hang.
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With that I meant that I consider you three pretty strongly town, not that I suspect any of you. Geript because of the marvkill, and Yamato because I really don't see how he could've held this kind of activity and care this much as scum with a scumteam including at least 3 inactives.
I don't like lynching GiggleS at the moment, but I'd be happy to pressure Stutters for a bit. With Palmar I want him to check WoS since if he's insane and not paranoid he'll get a green check on him regardless, so we'll be certain of his alignment presuming it's legit. If he gets red we can always off him then.
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If Palmar is scum, he's going to make up whatever he wants to about his check.
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And I hate TRN's posts in terms of content but he seems too paranoid to be scum. He seems to try to figure out the game so I'm not interested in lynching him at this point at least.
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On May 06 2013 17:09 yamato77 wrote:
If Palmar is scum, he's going to make up whatever he wants to about his check.
If he fakes a green check, he's claiming insane so he's going to have to actually make up alignments as he goes along, if any of them flip and aren't what they're supposed to be then it'll implicate him. We can choose for him whom we want him to check.
If he's red, we know we can disregard the entire check.
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If it's a red check* we can disregard any information from the supposed checks.
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On May 06 2013 17:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 17:09 yamato77 wrote:
If Palmar is scum, he's going to make up whatever he wants to about his check. If he fakes a green check, he's claiming insane so he's going to have to actually make up alignments as he goes along, if any of them flip and aren't what they're supposed to be then it'll implicate him. We can choose for him whom we want him to check. If he's red, we know we can disregard the entire check.
The problem is, he knows everyone's alignment. So he can just keep "checking" townies to stay alive.
I'd rather just lynch him.
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On May 06 2013 17:14 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 17:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 06 2013 17:09 yamato77 wrote:
If Palmar is scum, he's going to make up whatever he wants to about his check. If he fakes a green check, he's claiming insane so he's going to have to actually make up alignments as he goes along, if any of them flip and aren't what they're supposed to be then it'll implicate him. We can choose for him whom we want him to check. If he's red, we know we can disregard the entire check. The problem is, he knows everyone's alignment. So he can just keep "checking" townies to stay alive. I'd rather just lynch him.
We can choose for him whom he has to check. If he refuses, we lynch him.
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On May 06 2013 17:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 17:14 yamato77 wrote:On May 06 2013 17:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 06 2013 17:09 yamato77 wrote:
If Palmar is scum, he's going to make up whatever he wants to about his check. If he fakes a green check, he's claiming insane so he's going to have to actually make up alignments as he goes along, if any of them flip and aren't what they're supposed to be then it'll implicate him. We can choose for him whom we want him to check. If he's red, we know we can disregard the entire check. The problem is, he knows everyone's alignment. So he can just keep "checking" townies to stay alive. I'd rather just lynch him. We can choose for him whom he has to check. If he refuses, we lynch him.
In what scenario do you think a scum Palmar is going to lie about his check/sanity in an obvious enough way to get caught?
This, in no way, helps us figure out Palmar's true alignment.
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Also, how are we confirming these checks? Are we supposed to lynch the people he's checked?
This plan is bad. We should just lynch Palmar.
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There's four options here.
1. Palmar is a Paranoid cop.
He'll check WoS and see him as red too. When Palmar flips, we'll know it doesn't mean anything regarding BC's alignment.
2. Palmar is an Insane cop.
We'll know that BC is town or godfather. Given we know we have at least two millers (presuming WoS is speaking the truth) and a framer, I'd say it's unlikely BC is in fact godfather. I'd be inclined to believe he's town.
3. Palmar is a scum fakeclaiming a red check on WoS.
Basically claiming Paranoid cop, it means the reason for him still being alive is gone and he'll be treated as any other townie would. No reason to spare him anymore, so this'll delay us one day at most.
4. Palmar is a scum fakeclaiming a green check on WoS.
For as long as we'd like, we can force Palmar to give us alignments of any suspect we desire. If at any point the guy flips a different alignment than Palmar said he would, we lynch him.
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