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Bill Murray
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Sharrant
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On May 06 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote: who has TRN been masoning these last few days. This dapper gentleman right here. I'll read the exchange between you and BC shortly. @BM What game are you thinking of where we were scum together? @Yamato Palmar can live for a day or two, I could lynch Hopeless today. | ||
kushm4sta
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Artanis[Xp]
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On May 04 2013 09:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: How about you do what Palmar and I are doing? You know, trying to solve the game before we die. Cause he and I are both operating on the we get noosed. How about you do the same and work with us? this is a good post from BC and sums up what i've been saying recently | ||
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Bill Murray
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On May 06 2013 22:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I wish you would help us solve the game. | ||
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Bill Murray
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kushm4sta
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles. I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written. I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think. There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such: Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then. Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC) Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks. | ||
TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On May 06 2013 23:39 Sharrant wrote: @Palmar I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles. I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written. I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think. There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such: Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then. Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC) Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks. Quick question about this chain. Why is Hopeless first if your vote is on Yamato? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I do know one thing: there are at least a couple people here sitting on vital information right now and while I partially know what's going on, I don't know if I know the whole story, so I won't say much other than personally I feel it's probably best if the people sitting on info reveal said info---it will really make the game a whole lot easier. Not to say we can't win without it, I just don't personally see the reason it's being held back. Now with that being said I'll reveal what I know for sure. TRN masoned me the night before. We are not masoned currently. I have absolutely no reason to believe he is scum, though I am unsure as to what he thinks of me and am not quite sure why he attempted to grill me before. On May 06 2013 20:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I want to postpone all BC/Palmar related activities until tomorrow. We know one of them is town for neigh certain. That means there's at least one scummer whose name isn't BC/Palmar. I like BM's suggestion of giving you two a bit of breathing room. Stop defending yourselves, find scum. WoS What does confuse me is why WoS ragequit for a few days when people started believing him. When he was suspected, he posted a decent bit to defend himself. Fast forward to people no longer discussing him and he goes afk. Brought up again and now he's back, mostly to defend himself. Says the Yamato case on one of BC/Palmar being confirmed town due to JK thing makes sense but he doesn't actually give his own stance. He could be a frustrated townie, but frustrated scum makes just as much sense. People no loner discussing me lol. I was extremely active up until 2 days ago and people stopped discussing me LONG before that if you'd read. I was frustrated for reasons I'm not necessarily comfortable divulging, however there are things that have led me to believe that Palmar is scum. I am curious as to what leaving im alive actually accomplishes, and why Sharrant no longer appears to want to lynch him. | ||
Palmar
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 07 2013 00:31 Palmar wrote: What if I told you I wasn't scum WoS? What if I told you I don't care what you have to say at this point? | ||
Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On May 06 2013 23:47 TheRavensName wrote: Quick question about this chain. Why is Hopeless first if your vote is on Yamato? I was in a rush to get ready. On May 07 2013 00:03 WaveofShadow wrote: I remember thinking right before I went to bed last night that I had the game solved but now I can't remember why. Fuck. I do know one thing: there are at least a couple people here sitting on vital information right now and while I partially know what's going on, I don't know if I know the whole story, so I won't say much other than personally I feel it's probably best if the people sitting on info reveal said info---it will really make the game a whole lot easier. Not to say we can't win without it, I just don't personally see the reason it's being held back. Now with that being said I'll reveal what I know for sure. TRN masoned me the night before. We are not masoned currently. I have absolutely no reason to believe he is scum, though I am unsure as to what he thinks of me and am not quite sure why he attempted to grill me before. People no loner discussing me lol. I was extremely active up until 2 days ago and people stopped discussing me LONG before that if you'd read. I was frustrated for reasons I'm not necessarily comfortable divulging, however there are things that have led me to believe that Palmar is scum. I am curious as to what leaving im alive actually accomplishes, and why Sharrant no longer appears to want to lynch him. I'm not sure where you get that I no longer want to lynch him. You'll notice that every scenario I posted that doesn't end in us killing scum in the next 2 lynches then goes on to lynching him, and if we kill scum in one of those two lynches, it only moves lynching Palmar back by one lynch. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that instead of just not reading the thread, you meant that it appears I no longer want to lynch him today. And yes, that is correct. If he's not scum, then scum now know that there's a very real possibility that he is an insane detective and will most likely be forced to shoot him. If he is scum, we've still got another person who is much less obvious to lynch than him and I'd rather go after them. If he's still around after two night cycles, and we haven't lynched a scum, then it's time to lynch Palmar. | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On May 06 2013 23:39 Sharrant wrote: @Palmar I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles. I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written. I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think. There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such: Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then. Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC) Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks. I really don't think I want to lynch Yamato, even if Hopeless flips town. I'm very confident in my town read on him. If people really want to lynch him after I'll reread his filter though. GiggleS I think is town too, but my read is weaker on him. Why do you want GiggleS offed when Hopeless flips scum? | ||
Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
Hopeless1der: (3) BloddyC0bbler, Sharrant, Artanis [Xp] Palmar: (1) Bill Murray BloodyC0bbler: (4) Hopeless1der, getmoript, Palmar, Yamato: (0) Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link) Please keep in mind that with 13 alive it now only takes 7 votes to lynch! If there are any mistakes in the vote count, please inform us. | ||
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