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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:09 GMT
#4861
i can relate to it
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 06 2013 13:11 GMT
#4862
On May 06 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote:
who has TRN been masoning these last few days.


This dapper gentleman right here.
I'll read the exchange between you and BC shortly.

@BM
What game are you thinking of where we were scum together?

@Yamato
Palmar can live for a day or two, I could lynch Hopeless today.


kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 06 2013 13:20 GMT
#4863
i wish this game had a deadline
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
May 06 2013 13:20 GMT
#4864
I wish you would help us solve the game.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:22 GMT
#4865
@Sharrant: Ease your mind about Palmar - mistakes happen - it's a nulltell, bro. trust me on that. TRUST ME. Did I play super serious in PYP after not sending in my numbers? It happens. Palmar has a higher % of being scum than a lot, but we can spend the rest of the week analyzing if need be, and find the correct lynch
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:23 GMT
#4866
i wish i had some ruby slippers that i could tap together 3 times and not be in kansas anymore
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:23 GMT
#4867
and im not even from kansas
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:25 GMT
#4868
On May 04 2013 09:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 03 2013 04:20 yamato77 wrote:
Well, it's painfully obvious to me that we should just RNG between Ace/Hopeless/BC and insta-lynch them.




List Randomizer

There were 3 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Hopeless
Cobbler
Ace
Timestamp: 2013-05-02 19:20:03 UTC




Random.org has spoken. We lynch Hopeless.


You are advocating me (i know I am town) and Ace who is either 3p or town, and hopeless who given the context of the last few pages could easily be town or mafia.

However Given I know you don't give two shits now about finding scum in any logical manner and have been trying to get Ace lynched first off this list (because he might be 3rd off a ton of wifom bullshit).

You go first. No town member should be advocating a potential 3rd party player when we have mafia still alive. Especially when said potential third party has been pushing mafia lynches a fair bit this game. The only one who would give two shits about mafia dying quickly is rita skeeter as she wins if the game ends on any sides victory.

Plain and simple you are mafia. I cannot believed I have waffled so much about this all game.

Read this post against and tell me just how much like bullshit it sounds.

Completely ridiculous.


How about you do what Palmar and I are doing? You know, trying to solve the game before we die. Cause he and I are both operating on the we get noosed. How about you do the same and work with us?

this is a good post from BC and sums up what i've been saying recently
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:26 GMT
#4869
On May 06 2013 22:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I wish you would help us solve the game.

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 06 2013 13:26 GMT
#4870
SOLVENT
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 06 2013 13:31 GMT
#4871
why is that a good post from bc? it's not. A good post would be one in which he told us who the scums were and why convincingly. That is what I expect from town BC. That is not what we have gotten from BC this game.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
May 06 2013 14:07 GMT
#4872
Kush, thoughts on WoS?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 06 2013 14:39 GMT
#4873
@Palmar
I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles.

I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written.

I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think.

There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such:

Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then.

Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC
Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC)
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC

Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
May 06 2013 14:47 GMT
#4874
On May 06 2013 23:39 Sharrant wrote:
@Palmar
I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles.

I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written.

I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think.

There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such:

Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then.

Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC
Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC)
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC

Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks.

Quick question about this chain. Why is Hopeless first if your vote is on Yamato?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 06 2013 15:03 GMT
#4875
I remember thinking right before I went to bed last night that I had the game solved but now I can't remember why. Fuck.
I do know one thing: there are at least a couple people here sitting on vital information right now and while I partially know what's going on, I don't know if I know the whole story, so I won't say much other than personally I feel it's probably best if the people sitting on info reveal said info---it will really make the game a whole lot easier. Not to say we can't win without it, I just don't personally see the reason it's being held back.

Now with that being said I'll reveal what I know for sure. TRN masoned me the night before. We are not masoned currently. I have absolutely no reason to believe he is scum, though I am unsure as to what he thinks of me and am not quite sure why he attempted to grill me before.

On May 06 2013 20:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I want to postpone all BC/Palmar related activities until tomorrow. We know one of them is town for neigh certain. That means there's at least one scummer whose name isn't BC/Palmar. I like BM's suggestion of giving you two a bit of breathing room. Stop defending yourselves, find scum.
WoS
What does confuse me is why WoS ragequit for a few days when people started believing him. When he was suspected, he posted a decent bit to defend himself. Fast forward to people no longer discussing him and he goes afk. Brought up again and now he's back, mostly to defend himself. Says the Yamato case on one of BC/Palmar being confirmed town due to JK thing makes sense but he doesn't actually give his own stance.

He could be a frustrated townie, but frustrated scum makes just as much sense
.

People no loner discussing me lol. I was extremely active up until 2 days ago and people stopped discussing me LONG before that if you'd read. I was frustrated for reasons I'm not necessarily comfortable divulging, however there are things that have led me to believe that Palmar is scum. I am curious as to what leaving im alive actually accomplishes, and why Sharrant no longer appears to want to lynch him.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#4876
What if I told you I wasn't scum WoS?
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#4877
On May 07 2013 00:31 Palmar wrote:
What if I told you I wasn't scum WoS?

What if I told you I don't care what you have to say at this point?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 06 2013 15:53 GMT
#4878
On May 06 2013 23:47 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:39 Sharrant wrote:
@Palmar
I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles.

I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written.

I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think.

There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such:

Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then.

Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC
Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC)
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC

Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks.

Quick question about this chain. Why is Hopeless first if your vote is on Yamato?


I was in a rush to get ready.

On May 07 2013 00:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
I remember thinking right before I went to bed last night that I had the game solved but now I can't remember why. Fuck.
I do know one thing: there are at least a couple people here sitting on vital information right now and while I partially know what's going on, I don't know if I know the whole story, so I won't say much other than personally I feel it's probably best if the people sitting on info reveal said info---it will really make the game a whole lot easier. Not to say we can't win without it, I just don't personally see the reason it's being held back.

Now with that being said I'll reveal what I know for sure. TRN masoned me the night before. We are not masoned currently. I have absolutely no reason to believe he is scum, though I am unsure as to what he thinks of me and am not quite sure why he attempted to grill me before.

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 20:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I want to postpone all BC/Palmar related activities until tomorrow. We know one of them is town for neigh certain. That means there's at least one scummer whose name isn't BC/Palmar. I like BM's suggestion of giving you two a bit of breathing room. Stop defending yourselves, find scum.
WoS
What does confuse me is why WoS ragequit for a few days when people started believing him. When he was suspected, he posted a decent bit to defend himself. Fast forward to people no longer discussing him and he goes afk. Brought up again and now he's back, mostly to defend himself. Says the Yamato case on one of BC/Palmar being confirmed town due to JK thing makes sense but he doesn't actually give his own stance.

He could be a frustrated townie, but frustrated scum makes just as much sense
.

People no loner discussing me lol. I was extremely active up until 2 days ago and people stopped discussing me LONG before that if you'd read. I was frustrated for reasons I'm not necessarily comfortable divulging, however there are things that have led me to believe that Palmar is scum. I am curious as to what leaving im alive actually accomplishes, and why Sharrant no longer appears to want to lynch him.


I'm not sure where you get that I no longer want to lynch him. You'll notice that every scenario I posted that doesn't end in us killing scum in the next 2 lynches then goes on to lynching him, and if we kill scum in one of those two lynches, it only moves lynching Palmar back by one lynch.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that instead of just not reading the thread, you meant that it appears I no longer want to lynch him today. And yes, that is correct. If he's not scum, then scum now know that there's a very real possibility that he is an insane detective and will most likely be forced to shoot him. If he is scum, we've still got another person who is much less obvious to lynch than him and I'd rather go after them. If he's still around after two night cycles, and we haven't lynched a scum, then it's time to lynch Palmar.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
May 06 2013 16:05 GMT
#4879
On May 06 2013 23:39 Sharrant wrote:
@Palmar
I liked the exchange between you and BC over the night; I think the reason you're finding his contributions suspicious is because of a difference in play styles.

I think BC just doesn't like to write things out, he said as much earlier in the game. You're both under the pressure of a lynch, so you go out of your way to back everything up with quotes and try to make it look good. He seems to be relying on his cred as a veteran, and the fact that when he flips people will know he's not lying about what he's written.

I want both of you alive for at least a cycle. I'm happy to lynch into the little list you guys came up with, it matches up for the most part with my thoughts with a few key differences, but they're fairly subjective I think.

There's a few divergent scenarios, but I think the most basic formula for our chain of lynches is such:

Dammit. I made beautiful tree diagrams but the TL site doesn't support that kind of formatting. I'll write it out as direct chains then.

Hopeless(town)->Yamato(town)->Palmar->BC
Hopeless(town)->Yamato(scum)->(unsure, this chain I'm least sure if I'd lynch another person before Palmar/BC)
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(scum)->gg
Hopeless(scum)->giygas(town)->unsure(town)->Palmar->BC

Just a basic idea of what I think we should do, I'm open for discussion on it, and it would obviously be reevaluated after the nks.

I really don't think I want to lynch Yamato, even if Hopeless flips town. I'm very confident in my town read on him. If people really want to lynch him after I'll reread his filter though.

GiggleS I think is town too, but my read is weaker on him. Why do you want GiggleS offed when Hopeless flips scum?
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 06 2013 16:07 GMT
#4880
~~~ Vote Count ~~~

Hopeless1der: (3) BloddyC0bbler, Sharrant, Artanis [Xp]
Palmar: (1) Bill Murray
BloodyC0bbler: (4) Hopeless1der, getmoript, Palmar, yamato77, kushm4sta
Yamato: (0) Sharrant

Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)

Please keep in mind that with 13 alive it now only takes 7 votes to lynch! If there are any mistakes in the vote count, please inform us.

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