EPTWhat kind of cop cares so little about figuring out his sanity in a game like this that he not only claims after one check, but also FORGETS TO SEND IN A CHECK after having not even confirmed his own sanity?
Palmar is not this bad at mafia.
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yamato77
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What kind of cop cares so little about figuring out his sanity in a game like this that he not only claims after one check, but also FORGETS TO SEND IN A CHECK after having not even confirmed his own sanity? Palmar is not this bad at mafia. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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yamato77
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But hey, who does that nowadays, right? | ||
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Bill Murray
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On May 06 2013 17:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: With that I meant that I consider you three pretty strongly town, not that I suspect any of you. Geript because of the marvkill, and Yamato because I really don't see how he could've held this kind of activity and care this much as scum with a scumteam including at least 3 inactives. I don't like lynching GiggleS at the moment, but I'd be happy to pressure Stutters for a bit. With Palmar I want him to check WoS since if he's insane and not paranoid he'll get a green check on him regardless, so we'll be certain of his alignment presuming it's legit. If he gets red we can always off him then. Why do you see me as town? I realized what you meant, but I know you knew you didn't have to explain that to me. We are pretty much on the same page, from what I have read from you... I didn't really think Drazak was scum, even when I made a weak little case on him - I was just wanting to pressure your slot. That's where you replaced into, right? | ||
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Bill Murray
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On May 06 2013 17:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If he fakes a green check, he's claiming insane so he's going to have to actually make up alignments as he goes along, if any of them flip and aren't what they're supposed to be then it'll implicate him. We can choose for him whom we want him to check. If he's red, we know we can disregard the entire check. not necessarily true considering malfoy could have muffed his earlier checks to have him thinking that, but i don't want to be overgeneral On May 06 2013 17:14 yamato77 wrote: The problem is, he knows everyone's alignment. So he can just keep "checking" townies to stay alive. I'd rather just lynch him. seems like yamato is bussing palmar here? he says "he knows everyones alignment" like he's 100% perhaps yamato is just scumhunter 2013 champion, though. haha On May 06 2013 17:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: We can choose for him whom he has to check. If he refuses, we lynch him. has he checked giygas? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On May 06 2013 18:11 yamato77 wrote: Are you scum with Palmar, Artanis? Now I'm going to have to ask you if you're not reading the thread. On May 06 2013 18:21 Bill Murray wrote: Why do you see me as town? I realized what you meant, but I know you knew you didn't have to explain that to me. We are pretty much on the same page, from what I have read from you... I didn't really think Drazak was scum, even when I made a weak little case on him - I was just wanting to pressure your slot. That's where you replaced into, right? Because you're putting new ideas into the thread. We were stuck on Palmar/BC/Hopeless for a while and you brought in new suspects. If you were scum I'd have expected you to not stick your neck out this much. You are trying to figure out the game. I figured I'd just state that since it seemed like you were giving a read on Yamato and Geript, so I thought you might've misunderstood me. I replaced into Drazak, yes. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On May 06 2013 17:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Unless you're absolutely certain Palmar is scum (which, by the way, would make BC near confirmed town) there's no reason to lynch him today over tomorrow. yes there is - he didn't die last night | ||
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Bill Murray
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On May 06 2013 18:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Now I'm going to have to ask you if you're not reading the thread. Because you're putting new ideas into the thread. We were stuck on Palmar/BC/Hopeless for a while and you brought in new suspects. If you were scum I'd have expected you to not stick your neck out this much. You are trying to figure out the game. I figured I'd just state that since it seemed like you were giving a read on Yamato and Geript, so I thought you might've misunderstood me. I replaced into Drazak, yes. What do you think about Palmar checking GiygaS? Breath of fresh air from Drazak - you've been really helpful. Can we not lynch BC today, though? We need to have him making cases on people | ||
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Bill Murray
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Artanis[Xp]
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On May 06 2013 18:23 Bill Murray wrote: not necessarily true considering malfoy could have muffed his earlier checks to have him thinking that, but i don't want to be overgeneral Fair point. I don't feel like BC was highly contended though and with Clarity and Shiao flying around as low hanging fruit I'd say they were more likely to get framed to make them appear town to checks. I won't discount the option, though. seems like yamato is bussing palmar here? he says "he knows everyones alignment" like he's 100% perhaps yamato is just scumhunter 2013 champion, though. haha Yamato gonna yamato. has he checked giygas? No. I want him to check WoS first though since it'll make 100% sure whether he's insane or paranoid as WoS is either miller or scum. After that, if he gets a green check I'd like to see him check Stutters first, tbh. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On May 06 2013 18:28 Bill Murray wrote: What do you think about Palmar checking GiygaS? Breath of fresh air from Drazak - you've been really helpful. Can we not lynch BC today, though? We need to have him making cases on people I think GiggleS is town. On May 05 2013 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: GiygaS was on Shiao and Clarity pretty early too. It makes me wonder if we're putting too much weight on potential bussing. They could've pulled a Boardwalk. I checked an older game of GiygaS, L was the first one I found. He was town and got shot N1 in a game with 42 players. Really good D1 with lots of long yet concise posts analyzing a myriad of players. (link) This game, he's done it a few times as well, like here and here. Concise posts, and he shows how his thought process evolves. At first, he doesn't suspect Ace (putting him as null), then rereads and changes his read. It's something he did in his town game as well. I see a lot of similarities, and his play seems to suggest a pro-town agenda. In general, too many similarities for me to consider him scum. | ||
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Palmar
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On May 06 2013 17:27 yamato77 wrote: Knowing which if those four scenarios is the truth is impossible without lynching Palmar. What kind of cop cares so little about figuring out his sanity in a game like this that he not only claims after one check, but also FORGETS TO SEND IN A CHECK after having not even confirmed his own sanity? Palmar is not this bad at mafia. you're awful or mafia. | ||
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Palmar
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I botched my role. But it's equally botched if I'm scum or town. There is no more chance that I mess up my role or "role" depending on what you perceive my alignment to be, as scum or town, so there is nothing that tells you I'm mafia from making a mistake. My claim to fame, and the reason people perceive me as a strong player is two things, my day 1 play which has an unusually high amount of success, mostly based on my ability to pick out townies on day 1 and thus increase the chances of a successful lynch, and secondly my ability to persuade and influence a thread. Nowhere will you find anyone claim that I'm some mastermind at using roles or game mechanics, in fact I'm notorious for ignoring game mechanics and roles, hell I basically threw a game for town once by forcing mass claims on town when scum had like infinite claimer-KP, because I just ignore the mechanics of games. I don't often roll cop, I don't spend much time thinking about my role. I just do whatever. I thought/think BC is scum and figuring out my sanity is something I hardly cared about. I had a guilty check on a guy who I thought was scum, so I just thought fuck it let's do this. Worst case I lynch a scummy towner and know something's wrong with my sanity. It's terrible play to lynch me right now. Scum has to worry about me actually being insane, and thus capable of finding them out, so they should solve the problem for you. In addition it's entirely possible scum already knows I'm paranoid (BC being scum?) so in that case they wouldn't shoot me. You can push this awful lynch later, but now is not the time. I know it's very difficult to tell between bad play and scummy play, but honestly this should be a fairly easy case of it, since it's simply a mistake, and who is more impulsive and prone to mistakes? Scum or town? | ||
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Palmar
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Artanis[Xp]
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WoS What does confuse me is why WoS ragequit for a few days when people started believing him. When he was suspected, he posted a decent bit to defend himself. Fast forward to people no longer discussing him and he goes afk. Brought up again and now he's back, mostly to defend himself. Says the Yamato case on one of BC/Palmar being confirmed town due to JK thing makes sense but he doesn't actually give his own stance. He could be a frustrated townie, but frustrated scum makes just as much sense. | ||
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