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On April 29 2013 02:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:WaveofShadow. This guy has been discussed a bunch already. I feel he has to be dealt with because of his claim. The only way I am comfortable with him not dying is if he seriously steps up and plays solidly and gives me a reason to think of him as a miller and not confirmed scum.

On May 06 2013 07:11 yamato77 wrote:
I feel it highly unlikely that scum-WoS (a first time mafia player) would be as active as he has been, nor do I feel it likely that he would have the balls to claim miller as mafia, either.

On May 06 2013 07:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I agreed with you at the time, but there's a few things that don't add up.
-There's Rayn mentioning him on D2 as someone to look into the next day. He dies N2.
-His filter pushes a scum agenda. Has defended scum, then backtracked when they were looking poor.
-A lot of his comments felt off to me when scrolling through his filter. I don't know if it's how WoS always posts, but there's this defensive aura about him.
-Dropping out completely activity wise recently. He hasn't even posted the past two days.
BM and Getmoript pointed out a few things as well. I think he deserves a closer look and I want that closer look before the day ends.

On May 06 2013 09:29 WaveofShadow wrote:


1) WIFOM-y as hell. I already mentioned that they lynched him to make me look bad; was the whole reasoning for me having to miller claim. If you'd read my filter you'd know that I already explained this.
2) Hard defended who? Clarity? Yes, I admitted to have been wrong about him. Yes, I backtracked, because I wanted to get my thoughts out about why I felt I was wrong. What other mafia have I defended? Hell did I ever defend Ace either? What about me constantly pushing Shiao? This is being really selective.
3) I dunno, not much to say about that.
4) I was angry and needed a break.

Not even going to bother defending myself against geript's posting because once again, as always, it's overreaching.

Go ahead and take as close a look as you need but honestly if you really feel like I'm on the block for today above any of the other suspects then I don't know what to say. I'll be able to get back into it a little more later tonight and tomorrow if there are any other outstanding issues people have with me.

On April 26 2013 00:35 yamato77 wrote:
The reason I'm running through all this is that I'm not particularly happy with any of the lynches that most of town is talking about. VE of yesterday feels somewhat town. I feel like more time would only bury scum VE or give chance to solidify a town read on VE. There's absolutely no rush for his lynch to be finalized.

Shaio is easy to mislynch, as evidenced by the suspicion on him in day 2 of British Empire 1, also an instant lynch where he was lurkish, and eventually replaced. The worst part of his filter is the hammer sequence, but even that could be explained by overly eager town who got caught up in the game emotionally.

Clarity is always inactive, and him being fixated on Sharrant is not alignment indicative. His case is objectively something that scum like to do, but in the context of the game, I can see a town Clarity who had a late start feeling the need to get his thoughts about the game on the table, even if they weren't about the main lynch candidates. The fact that he basically has no other reads in the game is a point in his favor, but just like VE, we can afford to play a waiting game with him, seeing as we have unlimited time.

At the very least, we need real discussion about the alignments of Ace/BC/Palmar before we move forward with any lynch. Ace is the most town out of the three, and BC the least, in my eyes. I'd say a long day is in order, and town need to consolidate pressure upon just a few people so that we can determine their alignments more clearly.

On May 06 2013 09:41 TheRavensName wrote:

1. Bullshit! You claimed Miller before Rayn died.

On April 29 2013 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
So no one decided to vig I assume. Lol obvious attempt to frame me even though I clearly called Rayn town throughout my arguing with him last night. Alright when I get back later tonight as promised I will be doing everything in my power to prevent a wasted lynch on me. You guys are still welcome to vig me N3 if you so choose.

Giygas scum btw.

On May 06 2013 09:56 GiygaS wrote:
God damnit, looking through on kush (who I thought was uber disinterested mafia) makes me suspect yamato which would invalidate my read on Hopeless! This is confusing

This is the post that really got me (kush pointed this out before me):

Soft defense on the two scum that were up for lynching makes yamato look really bad.

This case was rejected by Ace (who was probably pushing mafia agenda at this point to avoid being the last non-town left), but advocated by BC and praised by VE. This post is then ignored for the rest of the game. I sort of want to go through Yamato's filter now and see what's up, but at the very least I'm unvoting from Hopeless until I figure this out.

On May 06 2013 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote:

Did I? Guess you're right. This game is taking too long.
Oh well reasoning is essentially the same, they tried to frame me by killing Rayn after we had a huge back-and-forth.