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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 15:09 GMT
#5679
On May 15 2013 00:08 kushm4sta wrote:
noo dont lynch me yet. I still havent' found scum.

Exactly.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 15:48 GMT
#5681
On May 14 2013 04:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 00:30 Palmar wrote:
proposition (going to attempt this myself):

Try to read the game ONLY from the yamato lynch to today, and pretend whatever happened before that did not happen. The days before that were basically stupid autolynches that left very little to be analysed, whereas yamato was the first real lynch we had. The game became more manageable a this point.

I have a feeling this will help.


tbh this just makes me more certain of my read of kush.

I will do this with the remainder of the players alive and hopefully it bears some fruit.

Hey BC, got anything yet?
I'm sick of this game being dead. With your read on kush you should be voting him. Palmar? Geript? TRN?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 16:24 GMT
#5689
On May 15 2013 01:20 Palmar wrote:
Just a question on personality.

I've don't know geript that well, but I've spoken with him, and he came across as a guy who wants to improve, wants to learn and is enthusiastic about the game of mafia. Maybe I'm overestimating him, but I kind of read him as a promising new-ish guy who would attempt to win the game no matter the odds.

I just see such a completely different attitude here. Compare the attitude of myself, WoS and Artanis in these last few days with geript's attitude. It's blatantly different. He's not even trying to win the game for town, which means, to me, that it's likely he isn't town.

Did you know that geript has an 11 page filter. Page 10 starts on like may 3rd. He's posting like 1-2 times a day since the Ace lynch. He's not involved at all and seems to care very little what happens, yet he's emotional enough to viciously attack me for no good reason.

dunnoh...


I think he's legit burnt out but I also think you could be right. Tomorrow. I have thoughts on him. He's on da carpet bomb list don't worry.
You still are too, btw, though I hate how I keep having to put you off.
#1 scumplay NA?

Palmar vote kush with us. Get on that ol' justice wagon.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 16:52 GMT
#5691
On May 15 2013 01:31 Palmar wrote:
I want to give it time WoS

For example, TRN and BC both need serious looks, both have done things recently that I don't agree with.

The only reason I'm not hard-tunneling BC (based on this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18505519) is this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18511661

TRN trying to push BM based on something that's non-alignment indicative is also somewhat scummy. But then again TRN pushing something that isn't the popular targets is less scummy.

/shrug

lol TBH I didn't understand what you were getting at there either. I've given TRN a serious look. I don't think he's scum mason. I want kush to flip right now because that's going to dictate what I do for the next period of time.

I don't know if I've given BC a serious look but didn't we assume the RB made him town? I'm sorry this game as gone on so fucking long I've forgotten what the conclusions on him were.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 17:19 GMT
#5694
On May 15 2013 02:05 getmoript wrote:
I was going to write up a big thing, but palmar your argument is terrible for two very simple reasons that:
1. I'm a billion times more invested as scum than as town
2. The competitive games I play have had 3 major events 3 weeks in a row counting this week

You've tunneled me for what 2 days now? Didn't you even say that I'd be tunneling you or something? I'm happy to just lynch you then lynch me.

Your defense is terrible.
1) You've played one scum game I think? And from what I've seen you're pretty equally invested in every game that I've been in with you, aside from this one. The difference here is the change in attitude attributable to your desire to move on to different mafia(game) related things but it could also be attributable to the fact that you may not have a scumteam coaching the shit out of you this game. Or some combination of both.

2) I dunno. Null on that obviously

I'm not sure that your suggestion to see Palmar drop then you is great since we may be at MYLO soon. A 1 for 1 sacrifice play could be pretty smart as scum right now IF you're sure that your buddy can end it, but I am not sure of this.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 17:19 GMT
#5695
On May 15 2013 02:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 8 ends in just under 24 hours from this post, at Wednesday, May 15 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). If no majority is reached before that time, the day ends in a no-lynch. It is mandatory to vote before day end.

Alright people, you heard the man. Let's do this please.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 18:39 GMT
#5699
Just do it Palmar. If kush isn't scum I'm pretty sure we're fucked anyway.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 20:18 GMT
#5704
Note Geript not voting.
Palmar what's your excuse?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 20:19 GMT
#5705
On May 15 2013 05:17 TheRavensName wrote:
WoS, what ever happened to that night kill analysis you were talking about doing?

Lol I won't lie, half-bait to try and get me killed so I could get the fuck out of this game. Artanis got luckier.

The other half is I think I'm onto something but I'm not 100% sure of it and I don't want to say anything until kush goes down. I feel like looking back at it, it may have been mostly gut anyway.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 20:28 GMT
#5707
On May 15 2013 05:26 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 05:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Note Geript not voting.
Palmar what's your excuse?

Meh, you're being crazy. If Kush is scum, there's very little reason for either of us to not be pushing another lynch. If he's scum and I'm town, then I'm bad. If he's town and I'm scum, there's 0 reason to not fabricate a reason to hammer him. You said even a 1:1 trade is good; idk maybe it is but I think 1:1 trades are always bad for scum. I had a town read on Kush earlier; I think the "inactive now" argument is bad. I'd rather lynch palmar.

So what you're saying is you'd rather no lynch. That in itself is scummy because you're not just flat-out coming out and saying it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 20:33 GMT
#5709
On May 15 2013 05:29 getmoript wrote:
No, I'm saying I'd rather lynch Palmar.

No you're not. You garner no support for your lynch on Palmar, I'm sure as hell not switching right now; you know exactly that this will end up in a no-lynch unless BM changes his mind or Palmar votes.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2013 21:13 GMT
#5716
And this is why I get left alive until the end.
Sigh. Oh well GG scum
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#5723
Well that kinda makes things easier? After tonight's NK we're at LYLO-1?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 15 2013 16:32 GMT
#5730
This is why we're fucked. I can't trust you Palmar and if you ARE town then you'll get killed and I absolutely won't be able to solve this game on my own.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 15 2013 18:25 GMT
#5732
Also I'm a dumbass this is LYLO after NK.
Good to know we have townies who care about this game. On the one hand I still hate the idea that you're alive Palmar but on the other hand the fact that scum win if people remain inactive means scum are likely amonst those you've named. I'm on a fine line deciding how I'm going to approach our final day.

I want to be the hero town needs, not the one they deserve.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 15 2013 23:21 GMT
#5743
Geript, why is BC alive?
Do you believe they are both scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#5750
On May 16 2013 09:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 08:53 getmoript wrote:
On May 16 2013 08:42 Palmar wrote:
Calling my "sheep" on clarity having no reason is a gross misrepresentation Geript.

Hell, there were confirmed townies who sheeped MY reasons for lynching Clarity.

[spioler]
On April 27 2013 18:58 Palmar wrote:
Still think VE is the best lynch.

But I do agree with a clarity lynch. I still don't understand how he entered the thread "catching up" and then had a fully fledged case within an hour. There was additionally no interest in pushing that lynch any harder. There is literally not a single "sharrant" in his filter after the case.

It just doesn't feel natural. He didn't ask Sharrant anything to try to determine his alignment, no "hey sharrant, explain this" or "what do you think about this". Just a straight up case with no build-up and no follow-up. Which basically tells me his heart wasn't really in it.

So with that I'm switching my vote to Clarity.

Lessgo.


This is the most I saw you write on him and comes after pushing VE for a while. I don't consider that amazing especially since those numerous 'confirmed townies' were 2 CC and Kush. Now who's lying since wasn't it Vivax and BM who brought Clarity to the forefront?


Where did I say numerous?

I said "There were confirmed townies who sheeped my reasons for lynching Clarity"

Is this sentence false? I don't understand what you're getting at?
[/spoiler]
Who were those confirmed townies?
I believe I asked you something similar to this when I was making cases against you earlier on and I don't remember there being a conclusive answer.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#5751
On May 16 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
Also, just so I have your metrics clear. Am I correct in my understanding that it's scummy for me not to have lead a lynch on scum by day 8, but not scummy for you? It's scummy that I haven't been shot, but not you? It's scummy that "I refuse to give analysis" but the fact that I probably have twice the amount you have, but that's ok?

I just want us to be on the same page for the discussion. Are these three things all true?

ohhhhhhh shit G-ript you just got told.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 00:11 GMT
#5754
On May 16 2013 09:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 16 2013 09:00 Palmar wrote:
On May 16 2013 08:53 getmoript wrote:
On May 16 2013 08:42 Palmar wrote:
Calling my "sheep" on clarity having no reason is a gross misrepresentation Geript.

Hell, there were confirmed townies who sheeped MY reasons for lynching Clarity.

[spioler]
On April 27 2013 18:58 Palmar wrote:
Still think VE is the best lynch.

But I do agree with a clarity lynch. I still don't understand how he entered the thread "catching up" and then had a fully fledged case within an hour. There was additionally no interest in pushing that lynch any harder. There is literally not a single "sharrant" in his filter after the case.

It just doesn't feel natural. He didn't ask Sharrant anything to try to determine his alignment, no "hey sharrant, explain this" or "what do you think about this". Just a straight up case with no build-up and no follow-up. Which basically tells me his heart wasn't really in it.

So with that I'm switching my vote to Clarity.

Lessgo.


This is the most I saw you write on him and comes after pushing VE for a while. I don't consider that amazing especially since those numerous 'confirmed townies' were 2 CC and Kush. Now who's lying since wasn't it Vivax and BM who brought Clarity to the forefront?


Where did I say numerous?

I said "There were confirmed townies who sheeped my reasons for lynching Clarity"

Is this sentence false? I don't understand what you're getting at?

Who were those confirmed townies?
I believe I asked you something similar to this when I was making cases against you earlier on and I don't remember there being a conclusive answer.


Kush and CC, I think, or maybe Bill Murray agreed with my reasons with his vote already there. Want me to go back and check?

I'm pretty sure Kush said something like "Palmar convinced me to vote Clarity".
[/spoiler]
Yeah, if that's ok.

I'm still trying to determine what the best way of attacking the day is; I have some ideas but I'm going to need time.
BC and Gigs, if you two are town you'd better get the fuck back here and start some goddamn discussion or something.
If you're scum, don't bother.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 01:04 GMT
#5761
Honestly right now, what Gigs said about the voting is true.
Take your vote off Palmar.

Why are Gigs and I alive, Geript?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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