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On April 30 2013 06:48 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I'ma check Ace tonight instead. What do you think guys? I think that's a terrible idea. I'm 100% sure Ace is town. Check to confirm the other claims. I'm a terrible player. Your preference has been noted though.
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On April 30 2013 06:59 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I'ma check Ace tonight instead. What do you think guys? you could, but why would you run away from checking Palmar? I'm not running away from anything - but given everything, I think we should just lynch Palmar to check him. He doesn't even fucking care.
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Is BC still around or did he literally just show up to buddy Ace?
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On April 30 2013 07:03 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 30 2013 06:59 Ace wrote:On April 30 2013 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I'ma check Ace tonight instead. What do you think guys? you could, but why would you run away from checking Palmar? I'm not running away from anything - but given everything, I think we should just lynch Palmar to check him. He doesn't even fucking care. Palmar cares. just in a different way. Explain.
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On April 30 2013 07:09 Palmar wrote: bitches please I'm totally town Why won't you help me win then?
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SACRIFICE ALL THE TOWNIES!!!!
FOR THE GOOD OF THE TOWN!!!!
WE CAN'T SHOOT THEM EITHER NOOOOO WE GOTTA LYNCH THEM ALL!!!
I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS!!!!
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Does anyone else find it odd how Ace not only thinks MY claim doesn't make sense, but also thinks CC's claim doesn't make sense, yet is now agreeing that Shiao should be lynched based on both of these claims that he has argued against making any sense?
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Because I've got to say - I find this extremely odd. Especially considering Cheese's check turned out to be the opposite of what he claims...it just feels like he's buying it way too easily if he really had an issue with our checks to begin with.
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You're both dicks or scum. Answer my fucking question.
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How does that prove anything to anyone with result-altering roles possible?
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On April 30 2013 08:23 Ace wrote: whoa whoa whoa - wait a sec. VE Shiao hasn't flipped yet and Cheese isn't confirmed - how do you know its the opposite of "what I claimed"?
What HE claimed. He claimed he had a red check on Syl and Syl flipped green...unless I'm missing something?
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Who cares if scum lost a framer? The existence of a framer doesn't preclude another framer.
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On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Roles and Setup information Setup TypeThis is a semi-closed setup. The game setup only uses roles listed here, but how many of each role exist is a secret. So again I ask: what will us checking each other do exactly?
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And if even one of us is NOT legit, then they could feasilby completely fuck up your plan Ace.
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Parity don't have sanities, my checks are only manipulable through actions.
Let's suppose, as you posit, that one of the checks is fake. For the sake of argument, let's assume it's Cheese.
What happens when scum frame Palmar?
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Targeting Palmar was just an example - worst case from my perspective because it alters MY check. Frankly if Cheese is town the obvious frame choice is me because his sanity is "confirmed" or whatever.
My point is that you're saying it's unlikely that scum have another framer. Considering the apparent lack of vigs and high volume of DT's, I'm wondering what your motivation is for pushing this notion.
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BC FUCKING WEIGH IN ON THIS GODDAMNIT
SOMEONE OTHER THAN PEOPLE WHO DELIGHT IN PISSING ME OFF PLEASE PARTICPATE IN DISCUSSION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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It's too fucking late, no one cares about this fucking game anymore.
I'm peacing out. Good luck figuring this shit out.
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On April 30 2013 08:57 Ace wrote: Ok VE. assume they have another framer for fun. If any 2 of you are telling the truth they can't do anything about it. Even if they altered your check we know that short of his night 1 check being framed and him lying Mr.CC has to be an insane detective. That would let his check go through AND Palmar's. and we know what you have to look like if you are also legit. This all boils down to the Scum team having 2 framers and hoping 2 of you are lying about being detectives just to hope we dont work backwards to figure it out. It would MAYBE save them one day.
Remember - this is with a framer. they are screwed either way. This doesn't explain anything. FUCKING NOTHING
Let's assume that all three of us are telling the truth, and we're ALL cops. With a framer. Here's where we stand:
VE = Parity Cop (not subject to sanities) Cheese = Alignment Cop (Insane) Palmar = Alignment Cop (Unconfirmed Sanity)
For fun let's have the framer target Palmar because I've thought he was scum all game and that would be hilarious.
Your plan is this:
VE -> Palmar Palmar->CC CC->VE
With the framer targeting Palmar we should see results like this:
Palmar (through "Different" because Syl was last check and flipped town) CC (unknown because Palmar's sanity isn't confirmed) VE (because insane)
Which we can then distill into
Scum Palmar ????? Cheesecake Town VE
Town VE's check is legit because his alignment is "confirmed" now right? So we lynch Palmar for being fake-claiming cop. Except he's NOT a fake-claiming cop is he? He's a damned REAL cop! And what happens then? Well we either assume framer OR we lynch the fuck out of VE next cycle!
In what way does this confirm anything Ace? HOW?!
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VE = Parity Cop (not subject to sanities) Cheese = Alignment Cop (Insane) Palmar = Alignment Cop (Unconfirmed Sanity)
Now let's see what happens if I'm framed.
Your plan is this:
VE -> Palmar Palmar->CC CC->VE
With the framer targeting me we should see results like this:
Palmar CC VE (because insane)
Which we can then distill into
Town Palmar ????? Cheesecake Scum VE
Suddenly VE's claim isn't so confirmed is it? Now all of a sudden we're looking at VE looking like scum because of confirmed-sanity-CC checking him as scum! Except...VE isn't scum is he?! HE'S A GOD DAMNED PARITY COP! And when you lynch the fuck out of VE for being scum and he flips town, where do you go there? YOU LYNCH CC BECAUSE HE'S EITHER LYING OR THERE'S ANOTHER FRAMER PRESENT.
In what way does this confirm anything Ace? HOW?![/QUOTE]
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