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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:27 GMT
#2006
After that I think GiygaS is probably the best vigi shot, someone brought up some decent points about him earlier, and I remember reading through the thread on my phone gave me the impression that he just sort of ended up wherever there was more than 3 people that started sharing an opinion.

I disagree with the bolded part. Could you look at who did bring up points and why were they good? I'm a bit torn about GiygaS, one half of me says he is scum and the other one says he's just a misguided/bad townie.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:28 GMT
#2007
I would also put WoS over MrCC.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:29 GMT
#2008
EBWOP:
On April 26 2013 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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After that I think GiygaS is probably the best vigi shot, someone brought up some decent points about him earlier, and I remember reading through the thread on my phone gave me the impression that he just sort of ended up wherever there was more than 3 people that started sharing an opinion.

I disagree with the bolded part. Could you look at who did bring up points and why were they good? I'm a bit torn about GiygaS, one half of me says he is scum and the other one says he's just a misguided/bad townie.


I disagree with the bolded part.

I was thinking about geript's case. I do not necessarily disagree. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:58 GMT
#2012
OO; good morning. It's 9 am here and i probably need to sleep. I'm fuck tired.

But, the points you brought up against GiygaS are valid. And i also want to hear more from Artanis, though i'm leaning town on him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:06 GMT
#2058
ShiaoPi what makes you think Palmar's case on VE is better than Sharrant's on Clarity? You need to expand that post because i can't see what you are thinking.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:08 GMT
#2059
Okay that explains a lot. You know sometimes people realize they are arguing with a townie and let go.

Anyways i'm not interested in lynching ShiaoPi today.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:09 GMT
#2061
Actually one more question: What are the points you find good against VE that has been brought up?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:24 GMT
#2066
ShiaoPi why exactly are you suspicious of VE?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:33 GMT
#2068
Apparently he realized we are both town and let go of the stupid argument as i did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:34 GMT
#2069
Hopeless who is your preferred lynch today?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:02 GMT
#2073
Hopeless i kinda stopped looking at Sharrant when he had reasonable answers to my questions to him at the start of D2, that made me think he is town.

What do you think of Sylencia / WoS?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:38 GMT
#2083
Actually fuck it. After doing some thinking i can't understand how ShiaoPi thinks VE is scum and Palmar is very strong town based on their interactions, as thay basically are the same. VE says Palmar is scum because he is lazy, Palmar says the same thing about VE. This was all that ShiaoPi listed as reasons why VE is scum (+sheeping Palmar).

##Unvote: Clarity_nl
##Vote: ShiaoPi
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:49 GMT
#2086
On April 27 2013 04:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On April 27 2013 04:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 27 2013 04:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
ShiaoPi isn't even reading the thread. He insists that Kush's vote is on me because that's what the votecount says, but Kush is "1 trillion percent sure" that I'm town and is voting Palmar because he agrees with me and BC.


/willing to hammer shiaopi

Srsly, can someone check on what I've asked about Sharrant? Why is rayn a townread to Sharrant?

I don't think anyone but Sharrant can answer that. My opinion is the most biased obviously, as i know i am town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:59 GMT
#2089
I got the impression that he agreed with a lot of my reads when i posted them on N1. Other than that idk.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 20:05 GMT
#2092
On April 27 2013 05:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On April 27 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got the impression that he agreed with a lot of my reads when i posted them on N1. Other than that idk.

and yet his previous mention of you was that "I (Shar) am going to get you (rayn) lynched because you are scum".
That doesn't bother you that he just dropped it like it was nothing? Where the hell is everyone?

It doesn't as i had posted a lot after that, before Sharrant posted the next time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#2094
On April 27 2013 05:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 27 2013 05:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 27 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got the impression that he agreed with a lot of my reads when i posted them on N1. Other than that idk.

and yet his previous mention of you was that "I (Shar) am going to get you (rayn) lynched because you are scum".
That doesn't bother you that he just dropped it like it was nothing? Where the hell is everyone?

I find that odd, but frankly he's posting enough opinions that I'm not interested in lynching him over my own candidates Hopeless. I intend to look deeper into his posting after the flip. Right now it's of note that he's directly opposing both a Clarity lynch and a ShiaoPi lynch based on weak reasoning.

What? Sharrant is pushing Clarity.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 21:23 GMT
#2119
Ace:
1) ShiaoPi says VE is scum for this: "weird assumptoion of his that palamar is scum"
2) Palmar assumes same about VE, when VE has done much much more on D2 that Palmar
3) However, strangely Palmar is very high townread and VE is scum. It makes zero sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#2120
On April 27 2013 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 27 2013 06:18 Ace wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll kill the evil I can see. I thought you were a proponent of vigs clearing out the trash Ace?


I am but also just trying to understanding your reasonings. Maybe I'm misreading it but ShiaoPi didn't lie when he said Kush voted for you. One of the last updates in the voting thread has Kush on your wagon, the subsequent one doesn't.

@BC: Shiao jumping on VEs wagon means exactly like he's stating - sheeping Palmar. I fully believe he isn't reading the thread as well as he claims. But he could just as likely be a Town player without enough time trying to piece things together haphazardly. In clarity's case he specifically said he read everything and came to some alarming conclusions which Sharrant pointed out. I think the latter case is clearly worse.


That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he lied when he said he read the thread. He didn't, or he'd know that Kush didn't vote for me, ever...in either thread. In fact, kush is "1 trillion percent sure" that I'm town.

Also this is a fact.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 21:29 GMT
#2125
No Ace, that is host Error. Kush has never voted for VE.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 22:16 GMT
#2171
On April 27 2013 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 27 2013 07:12 yamato77 wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:08 yamato77 wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
You guys are heading into preflip assumption territory and its not good.

Yeah, they're being bad. Ignore it.

You know you're accusing BC of shitting all over town atmosphere yamato. JUST SAYIN.

I'm no longer accusing BC of anything.

I'm just saying, this voting analysis of wagons is inconclusive at best. Mafia vote for mafia, town vote for town, and his list of "confirmed" players may not even be accurate, lol.

Ugh this is like exactly the problem I have with the approach as well. :/

At least as we can't know yamato's alignment from D1, and we can't know if Clarity / ShiaoPi are both mafia.
That's a hella lot of WIFOM there in the wagons.
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