• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:53
CEST 04:53
KST 11:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4776 users

TL Mafia LXI - Page 12

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 16 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:27 GMT
#2006
After that I think GiygaS is probably the best vigi shot, someone brought up some decent points about him earlier, and I remember reading through the thread on my phone gave me the impression that he just sort of ended up wherever there was more than 3 people that started sharing an opinion.

I disagree with the bolded part. Could you look at who did bring up points and why were they good? I'm a bit torn about GiygaS, one half of me says he is scum and the other one says he's just a misguided/bad townie.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:28 GMT
#2007
I would also put WoS over MrCC.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:29 GMT
#2008
EBWOP:
On April 26 2013 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
After that I think GiygaS is probably the best vigi shot, someone brought up some decent points about him earlier, and I remember reading through the thread on my phone gave me the impression that he just sort of ended up wherever there was more than 3 people that started sharing an opinion.

I disagree with the bolded part. Could you look at who did bring up points and why were they good? I'm a bit torn about GiygaS, one half of me says he is scum and the other one says he's just a misguided/bad townie.


I disagree with the bolded part.

I was thinking about geript's case. I do not necessarily disagree. :D
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 05:58 GMT
#2012
OO; good morning. It's 9 am here and i probably need to sleep. I'm fuck tired.

But, the points you brought up against GiygaS are valid. And i also want to hear more from Artanis, though i'm leaning town on him.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:06 GMT
#2058
ShiaoPi what makes you think Palmar's case on VE is better than Sharrant's on Clarity? You need to expand that post because i can't see what you are thinking.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:08 GMT
#2059
Okay that explains a lot. You know sometimes people realize they are arguing with a townie and let go.

Anyways i'm not interested in lynching ShiaoPi today.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:09 GMT
#2061
Actually one more question: What are the points you find good against VE that has been brought up?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:24 GMT
#2066
ShiaoPi why exactly are you suspicious of VE?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:33 GMT
#2068
Apparently he realized we are both town and let go of the stupid argument as i did.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 18:34 GMT
#2069
Hopeless who is your preferred lynch today?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:02 GMT
#2073
Hopeless i kinda stopped looking at Sharrant when he had reasonable answers to my questions to him at the start of D2, that made me think he is town.

What do you think of Sylencia / WoS?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:38 GMT
#2083
Actually fuck it. After doing some thinking i can't understand how ShiaoPi thinks VE is scum and Palmar is very strong town based on their interactions, as thay basically are the same. VE says Palmar is scum because he is lazy, Palmar says the same thing about VE. This was all that ShiaoPi listed as reasons why VE is scum (+sheeping Palmar).

##Unvote: Clarity_nl
##Vote: ShiaoPi
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:49 GMT
#2086
On April 27 2013 04:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 04:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 27 2013 04:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
ShiaoPi isn't even reading the thread. He insists that Kush's vote is on me because that's what the votecount says, but Kush is "1 trillion percent sure" that I'm town and is voting Palmar because he agrees with me and BC.


/willing to hammer shiaopi

Srsly, can someone check on what I've asked about Sharrant? Why is rayn a townread to Sharrant?

I don't think anyone but Sharrant can answer that. My opinion is the most biased obviously, as i know i am town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 19:59 GMT
#2089
I got the impression that he agreed with a lot of my reads when i posted them on N1. Other than that idk.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 20:05 GMT
#2092
On April 27 2013 05:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got the impression that he agreed with a lot of my reads when i posted them on N1. Other than that idk.

and yet his previous mention of you was that "I (Shar) am going to get you (rayn) lynched because you are scum".
That doesn't bother you that he just dropped it like it was nothing? Where the hell is everyone?

It doesn't as i had posted a lot after that, before Sharrant posted the next time.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#2094
On April 27 2013 05:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 05:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 27 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got the impression that he agreed with a lot of my reads when i posted them on N1. Other than that idk.

and yet his previous mention of you was that "I (Shar) am going to get you (rayn) lynched because you are scum".
That doesn't bother you that he just dropped it like it was nothing? Where the hell is everyone?

I find that odd, but frankly he's posting enough opinions that I'm not interested in lynching him over my own candidates Hopeless. I intend to look deeper into his posting after the flip. Right now it's of note that he's directly opposing both a Clarity lynch and a ShiaoPi lynch based on weak reasoning.

What? Sharrant is pushing Clarity.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 21:23 GMT
#2119
Ace:
1) ShiaoPi says VE is scum for this: "weird assumptoion of his that palamar is scum"
2) Palmar assumes same about VE, when VE has done much much more on D2 that Palmar
3) However, strangely Palmar is very high townread and VE is scum. It makes zero sense.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#2120
On April 27 2013 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:18 Ace wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll kill the evil I can see. I thought you were a proponent of vigs clearing out the trash Ace?


I am but also just trying to understanding your reasonings. Maybe I'm misreading it but ShiaoPi didn't lie when he said Kush voted for you. One of the last updates in the voting thread has Kush on your wagon, the subsequent one doesn't.

@BC: Shiao jumping on VEs wagon means exactly like he's stating - sheeping Palmar. I fully believe he isn't reading the thread as well as he claims. But he could just as likely be a Town player without enough time trying to piece things together haphazardly. In clarity's case he specifically said he read everything and came to some alarming conclusions which Sharrant pointed out. I think the latter case is clearly worse.


That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he lied when he said he read the thread. He didn't, or he'd know that Kush didn't vote for me, ever...in either thread. In fact, kush is "1 trillion percent sure" that I'm town.

Also this is a fact.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 21:29 GMT
#2125
No Ace, that is host Error. Kush has never voted for VE.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 26 2013 22:16 GMT
#2171
On April 27 2013 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:12 yamato77 wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:08 yamato77 wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
You guys are heading into preflip assumption territory and its not good.

Yeah, they're being bad. Ignore it.

You know you're accusing BC of shitting all over town atmosphere yamato. JUST SAYIN.

I'm no longer accusing BC of anything.

I'm just saying, this voting analysis of wagons is inconclusive at best. Mafia vote for mafia, town vote for town, and his list of "confirmed" players may not even be accurate, lol.

Ugh this is like exactly the problem I have with the approach as well. :/

At least as we can't know yamato's alignment from D1, and we can't know if Clarity / ShiaoPi are both mafia.
That's a hella lot of WIFOM there in the wagons.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
TaKeTV216
Rex74
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft585
PiGStarcraft572
Nina 98
Rex 74
FoxeR 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3045
GuemChi 2712
Artosis 591
Mind 67
Aegong 60
Bale 30
yabsab 27
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm147
League of Legends
Doublelift4842
Counter-Strike
summit1g9659
Fnx 1175
taco 271
Other Games
JimRising 665
Maynarde114
UpATreeSC43
RuFF_SC219
JuggernautJason6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31589
BasetradeTV235
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream125
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 73
• Mapu6
• OhrlRock 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1136
• Jankos393
Upcoming Events
GSL
8h 7m
Replay Cast
21h 7m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.