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On April 16 2013 17:56 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:19 Bill Murray wrote:
1. CALLER PLZ
ME
deconduo
Palmar
raynpelikoneet
visceraeyes
vivax
gonzaw
austinmcc
sinani206
strongandbig
meapak_ziphh
artanis[xp]
sharrant
sn0_man
keirathi
Obviousone
geript
restraining order
shelvocke
yamato77
mocsta
23. Oatmaster Guys this is real. Disregard last post geript. The post before this. Bm, says he has 4 town reads, which in hindsight was a scum reference. There is indeed a method to the madness. Anyways ppl say these lists are wifom, it having done them as scum before. I k ow they are not. Note the symmetry in distancing between the 4 flipped scum. This leaves sinani or yamato as the last scum.U can laugh at me all u want, but this cycle I'm voting sinani and yam. I'm expecting yam to flip red based on this list. Sinani is for security. I believe yam only has a green check, not a role check. He can easily be godfather. I will read his filter later tonight to get supporting quotes. Vivax, I will re read your yam case points. I probably discarded prematurely because I was too suspicious
Cool story bro, I said that last night already without noticing BM's simmetry, now unvote me and let's lynch scum.
##Vote Sinani206
##Vote yamato77
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Nice pick up there though, BM failed at producing randomness.
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I could see Shelvocke being mafia traitor, that'd explain the green check. Unlikely he has been recruited.
I could get behind lynching him over Sinani, and I'm somewhat confident yamato is GF.
Oats is town. Mocsta, who did you rolecheck tonight? Cause if it wasn't me, who's at risk of getting lynched and whose claim is doubted, your role usage would be pretty bad (as are your votes).
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Told you I sent Keirathi in, but since he died I didn't get anything back.
What's the deal with you being unable to my check results lol
What's Shelvocke's role? Vanilla I'd bet.
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Your role usage is bad cause I WOULDN'T BE ABOUT TO GET LYNCHED IF YOU CHECKED ME. INSTEAD YOU CHECKED A GUY WHOSE ROLE HAS NO INFLUENCE ON HIS LYNCH.
Fucks sake
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On April 16 2013 20:45 Restraining Order wrote:
hmm
Lynching Vivax is a given.
I'm not yet as sure as I'd like to be on who to use the second lynch on, honestly.
I'll look into it soon-ish
I'm curious what stops you from lynching Shelvocke rather than a guy who is most likely cop.
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A cop who pushed an OO lynch before the day even started. You guys must do really nasty stuff.
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On April 08 2013 17:37 yamato77 wrote:
The timing is a moot point, because with an AFK host in BC, the shot could have been sent at any point.
I'll give you that it seems like an assassin kill, more than anything else, but you can't know for sure.
You think it gives leverage to pushing your lynch, but that completely depends on general thread sentiment. What do you think was more likely, considering he was the most active person in pushing your lynch and was also fairly rigid in his belief? Do you think the wagon falling apart and town losing direction was more likely, or do you think me coming in and reaffirming the strength of the lynch is more likely? I have openly admitted that I was content not taking the lead, so why would mafia think that at all?
To some extent, this is WIFOM on the kill, yes, but I'm fairly certain that keeping the lynch headed your way is a good thing. Mafia wanted to lead town astray by killing Gonzaw, but I'm not going to let it happen.
On April 08 2013 17:18 yamato77 wrote:
Any of Artanis/VE/Sinani will do as a lynch today, but gonzaw being shot does lend a certain weight to the Artanis lynch that I like.
On April 08 2013 17:50 yamato77 wrote:
Fine, let's talk about something else.
What's your read on Sinani?
On April 08 2013 18:06 yamato77 wrote:
So aside from Sinani, who else would you lynch today?
Has anything changed from earlier, with Shelvocke and VE being on your radar?
On April 08 2013 18:11 yamato77 wrote:
Well, aside from Rayn, it's rather unsettling how much you seem to agree with me.
I may want to take this lynch in a different direction, and Sinani seems like a good one.
BRB, case.
On April 08 2013 18:13 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 06:46 sinani206 wrote:
gonzaw are you going to claim exactly what your role is? This post alone is enough for me, actually. ##Vote Sinani
On April 09 2013 04:47 yamato77 wrote:
Look at how Shelvocke came in and unvoted Artanis
Does that seem natural to you as a town player?
You do the same stuff you mention against Shelvocke: After mentioning both Artanis and VE as scumread, saying that gonzaw's death gave more weight to artanis, you chose to go after sinani. You weakly bussed your teammates while going for another player, and you didn't have time to switch back to one of them, nor did it make sense for you to do that.
Is Shelvocke Vanilla?In that case, he's a traitor with a green check, sinani is confirmed for having a role AND has a green check.
##Unvote sinani206
##Vote Shelvocke
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On April 16 2013 23:31 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 22:33 Vivax wrote:On April 08 2013 17:37 yamato77 wrote:
The timing is a moot point, because with an AFK host in BC, the shot could have been sent at any point.
I'll give you that it seems like an assassin kill, more than anything else, but you can't know for sure.
You think it gives leverage to pushing your lynch, but that completely depends on general thread sentiment. What do you think was more likely, considering he was the most active person in pushing your lynch and was also fairly rigid in his belief? Do you think the wagon falling apart and town losing direction was more likely, or do you think me coming in and reaffirming the strength of the lynch is more likely? I have openly admitted that I was content not taking the lead, so why would mafia think that at all?
To some extent, this is WIFOM on the kill, yes, but I'm fairly certain that keeping the lynch headed your way is a good thing. Mafia wanted to lead town astray by killing Gonzaw, but I'm not going to let it happen. On April 08 2013 17:18 yamato77 wrote:
Any of Artanis/VE/Sinani will do as a lynch today, but gonzaw being shot does lend a certain weight to the Artanis lynch that I like. On April 08 2013 17:50 yamato77 wrote:
Fine, let's talk about something else.
What's your read on Sinani? On April 08 2013 18:06 yamato77 wrote:
So aside from Sinani, who else would you lynch today?
Has anything changed from earlier, with Shelvocke and VE being on your radar? On April 08 2013 18:11 yamato77 wrote:
Well, aside from Rayn, it's rather unsettling how much you seem to agree with me.
I may want to take this lynch in a different direction, and Sinani seems like a good one.
BRB, case. On April 08 2013 18:13 yamato77 wrote:On April 08 2013 06:46 sinani206 wrote:
gonzaw are you going to claim exactly what your role is? This post alone is enough for me, actually. ##Vote Sinani On April 09 2013 04:47 yamato77 wrote:
Look at how Shelvocke came in and unvoted Artanis
Does that seem natural to you as a town player? You do the same stuff you mention against Shelvocke: After mentioning both Artanis and VE as scumread, saying that gonzaw's death gave more weight to artanis, you chose to go after sinani. You weakly bussed your teammates while going for another player, and you didn't have time to switch back to one of them, nor did it make sense for you to do that. Is Shelvocke Vanilla?In that case, he's a traitor with a green check, sinani is confirmed for having a role AND has a green check. ##Unvote sinani206
##Vote Shelvocke I get this process look terrible for yamato.. i hated it at the time, and still hate it. But.. why are you treating shelvocke as traitor? EVEN *if* he was traitor.. how do you jump to the conclusion taht scum already figured out he was traitor, and pm the host?
We don't know if they figured it out, he still wins with scum even if they didn't, they just can't communicate.
Traitor is actually a smart pick, 6 scum is pretty strong, and them not giving up is other evidence that they think they have a good position.
He's vanilla, and has not been playing pro-town, he has been green-checked and not been doing much at all since then.
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On April 16 2013 23:45 Mocsta wrote:
a town yam, would have shat all over my idea about BM and his WIFOM list post.
its ok.. scum yam gives up.
Agree with this conclusion. Pretty much similar to NSB from hydra 2 after losing his buddies.
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You bussed too, OO-style. Weakly and without followup.
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On April 16 2013 23:48 yamato77 wrote:
Note that you guys are trying to lynch me for moving the lynch off of mafia onto someone you don't know the alignment of certainly, and assuming that it was mafia motivated simply because it happened.
Just because I felt stronger about my own read on Sinani at the time does not mean I'm mafia who just "weakly bussed" his teammates.
Also, if you look at voting, MAFIA ALL BUSSED THAT DAY
By your own logic I would be town cause I didn't "bus" artanis?
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No one cares about your constant defenses, try to prove why your own reads are scum or worth lynching.
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Oats, go away, you've been wrong on me for the entire game and that's pretty bad.
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On April 17 2013 00:01 yamato77 wrote:
Think logically for a second and realize that all of the things you accuse me of, geript is even more guilty of.
Well, if he bussed he was pretty much the only one who did it correctly, he is the first of the definitive votes, he also got doubted to be VT by BM and asked for BM to be shot.
Unlikely to be scum.
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On April 17 2013 00:55 geript wrote:
So you think I'm scum again? Carr to explain?
You seem like another good candidate for traitor, being vanilla, right?
Why don't you start explaining why you've not been taking part in our yamato discussion when you've apparently been here to show up when Mocsta dropped his vote on you?
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Isn't Mocsta capitalist?
1: I checked him and I don't think he fakeclaimed that role.
2: He could use extra KP if he wanted to, in that case.
Your point regarding you not being traitor is valid. There's the unlikely chance yamato is traitor (but rather scum), so I'd prefer if we lynched him + shelvocke today and not geript (@ mocsta)
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On April 17 2013 02:02 geript wrote:
Here's the bottom line, Shelvocke and Yamato possibly could be reclusive traitors, but it's highly unlikely. It's just best to assume that there's 1 scum left and that we need to find said person. And no, we're not lynching Yamato + shelvocke today... that's just nonsensical. Vivax is a must lynch; he's done nothing all game.
Just being among the first to push OO and taking Mocsta out of the equation. Go away baddie
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Shelvocke has 3 pages of filter and you tell me I've been doing nothing. You're a walking joke geript
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Do you have arguments for you being town?
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