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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 13 2013 18:54 GMT
#3519
On April 14 2013 03:47 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:43 Restraining Order wrote:
FWIW, the same argument was used on the justice vig pick. And see how that turned out..

True. I didn't really think about that.

But my problem is...how do you turn parity cop into a scum-friendly role at all? Make it a role cop? I guess that's possible, but it seems to completely change the role, rather than just changing some minor mechanics. I guess its possible, though. A caveat is that both of the scum who have had role-based bonuses, their role name has changed.

Not sure, tbh. I don't see a way without completely changing how the role works. Like, not just an add-on like assassin had, or a flip-around like JV. More of an actual change in the core mechanics.

It's a shame the flips are so minimalistic in this game, it would have been interesting to see how other roles change.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 13 2013 20:31 GMT
#3526
On April 14 2013 04:42 strongandbig wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [dead people] +

Sn0_man -- Inventor 1,1

obviousone -- CPR doctor3**

Raynpelikoneet -- DEAD UNKNOWN 5, 1


Visceraeyes -- NRA Member 10, 10
Caller -- Showtime UNKNOWN 2**
Meapak_ziphh -- America 6,3

artanis[xp] -- Assassin 11, X
sharrant -- Vanilla (denied Detective) 11, X

gonzaw -- Jack 8, X
Austinmcc -- Copycat
8, X (green check from Keirathi NK)

Palmar -- suspected Emperor 8, X
billmurray -- (In)Justice Vigilante
Deconduo -- claimed Janitor UNKNOWN 8, X

Sinani206 -- claimed Vote Rigger, green check from Keirathi invention - can only be scum if keir is making up checks or if there are two GFs, which is unlikely, could be traitor until he uses one of his powers
Geript -- Vanilla (denied NRA Member) - can't be traitor, wouldn't know NRA had been taken above him, could be scum
strongandbig -- claimed detective - can't be traitor as DT is confirmed taken
restraining order -- claimed framer, no checks (as a claimed framer, must be considered immune to checks)
Keirathi -- claimed NKVD, green-checked austin & sinani, red-checked BM so probably town
Mocsta -- claimed Capitalist, green check from vivax - not traitor because of claimed shot on decon - only scum if vivax is traitor making up checks
Shelvocke -- checked as vanilla by mocsta, denied DT -- could be vanilla scum ; wouldn't know DT was taken, so denied claim would have had to be a big gamble if he's traitor but also possible
Vivax -- claimed parity cop, green-checked austin and mocsta
Oatmaster -- confirmed recruiter mason - could be scum, can't be traitor
Yamato77 -- claimed vanilla (denied Justice Vigilante) - VT check from snb - can't be scum unless i am, could be traitor




scum candidates in order of my estimated likelihood, assuming there's not two godfather bonuses
RO
Vivax
Geript? Oatsmaster? This doesn't really make sense tho

traitor candidates
Sinani
Yamato
RO?



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It's highly unlikely that sinani is the remaining scum, since keirathi would have to be making up checks. However, Sinani's play doesn't make me feel super townie about him. If sinani uses his role, we know he isn't traitor.
However, IMO a double lynch today is not good for town, since it just decreases the amount of time we have for our investigative roles to work on everyone.
Therefore, we should vote for Sinani, and he should use his vote rigging power to lynch RO. This way if he's lying about his role he dies, and if he's not lying then town can absolutely confirm his role. If he rigs the vote to anyone other than RO, he should be shot or insta-lynched the next phase, and he will no longer have his vote-rig to wriggle out of the lynch.
RO should be our real lynch for today. As a claimed framer, we can't trust checks on him, and the safest way to a town victory appears to be through mechanics. IMO he's a better lynch than any of the investigative roles at this time and better than anyone with a check on them, which leaves just him, Geript, and Oatsmaster. Out of those three I think RO is by far the most likely to be scum.

weak stuff.

You're not even glancing at my play (prolly cause you know you can't find anything on me), you're just sitting there saying "RO is a framer therefor he must be scum!"
And that's the extent of your 'arguments'.

Not to mention your post is choke-full of untruths.

Keirathi COULDN'T have made up the check on sinani, since sno gave him the invention and knows pretty well how it works.

Keirathi red-checking BM is not actually alignment indicative. At that point, BM was already guaranteed scum thanks to his role. If anything, the check is slightly scummy-ish because, as was said multiple times beforehand, BM's role showed it's alignment automatically. So checking him was actually bad play, but whatevs.

Double-lynch today does absolutely NOTHING to decrease the amount of time we have. 9-1 6-1 4-1 2-1 vs 9-1 7-1 5-1 3-1 Exact same amount of time.

Sinani activating doublelynch will confirm his role just as well.

As Framer, checks on me would actually be the ONLY thing you could trust. For I am the only person I cannot make appear differently.


So, your setup-talk is full of bull.
And you don't have any arguments outside of your setup talk.


Why are you not acting like you're suspicious of Shelvocke?
He claimed VT going for showtime (which is another instance of you speaking the untruth btw), and the only check on him was the vanilla rolecheck. He claimed that waaaay after caller was confirmed showtime, so it's not even hard.
Which means he can still be goon (Caller confirmed town yo) or even traitor (appears as VT)

It's like you're not even thinking about your own arguments.


I'm feelin pretty good about my vote.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 11:39 GMT
#3545
On April 14 2013 13:43 Shelvocke wrote:
Can someone post the mason logs?

Tell you what, I'm going to post the logs once you have shared all of the following within the day:

Thoughts on all remaining players
Who you want to lynch and why
Who you think is scum and why
And 2 mystery topics that you find important but none of us have really talked about/acknowledged yet.

It's in your pooooower.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#3553
Association with scum, you say?


Needed reminder:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=96#1910
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 19:38 GMT
#3561
I still think sinani should activate the double-lynch today.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#3564
The most important lynch today is snb.

Dunno if sinani is even here to make it a doublelynch, so you should consider moving your vote to him.


Actually, I just noticed we should probably not even double-lynch, since Oats is fully cruising for modkill.

Let's lynch snb only.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 22:33 GMT
#3568
Lynching scum is never stupid.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 22:41 GMT
#3570
Vivax is fine as a lynch, I'm not going to argue against that one.

But I'd honestly prefer snb right now.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 22:52 GMT
#3571
And I would find it very friendly of you guys if people would sheep me more.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 23:16 GMT
#3575
fine
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 14 2013 23:47 GMT
#3578
1) Oats is getting modkilled anyways
2) rigger doublelynch doesn't give you two votes, just the two leading candidates are getting lynched.
3) both vivax and snb are superior lynches
4) Oats is getting modkilled anyways
5) I'm still pretty sure he's town.
5.5) and getting modkilled anyways
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 00:16 GMT
#3581
On April 15 2013 09:07 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 09:05 Mocsta wrote:
I dont think oats is getting modkilled.

He made a post about 28hrs ago.

I cant believe we are in such a situation.

Geript is fixated on Keirathi

Oats is missing in action

Yam does nothing, but expects everyone to sheep him

SnB/Vivax are just butt fucking each other

Shevlocke my good I just want to lynch him for doing nothing ALL game.

==================

Just do SnB at this point in the game, he stil wants to lynch Shelvocke

and wants RO gone, when i already explained that VE/art trying to nail RO early game, indicates RO is confirmed town.

Ppl get confused witht he use of 'bus".. bus is intention to lynch... whereas ppl are actually thinking of 'distancing"


you dont understand the word "confirmed"

Still waiting for any actual reason at all to suspect me.
I know it's hard to find them cause I'm super-obvious town, but at least TRY.

I bet it's gonna be a fun read.

Somehow your BS and stupidity got this town to lynch vivax instead (who granted also has a good chance of being scum, and plays an even worse game than you, so it's k) today, doesn't mean it's gonna happen again.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 00:37 GMT
#3585
His whole "push" on OO is saying he'd shoot him during the nightphase, then not actually checking OO in the night, then a whole bunch of nothing, and then just a vote on OO + Sharrant.

I don't know how you give somebody a townread on that.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 00:42 GMT
#3587
gogo badwagons
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 00:42 GMT
#3588
*bandwagon

BAND

not bad
It's actually quite good.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 01:30 GMT
#3593
On April 15 2013 10:26 sinani206 wrote:
i rigged my vote onto strongandbig.

eh, now that oats showed up, you coulda double-lynched 'em.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 01:31 GMT
#3594
can you still change it to double-lynch?
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 01:42 GMT
#3596
double lynch~
double lynch~

sinani plz
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 02:59 GMT
#3636
meh lets try this shit

I still dislike snb heavily.
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Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 15 2013 02:59 GMT
#3638
On April 15 2013 11:58 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 11:57 Mocsta wrote:
im playing sc2. gimme a fucking break snb

u done nothing all game, and now act all high n mighty

what ive done all game is not be a retard

no you have not. not at all.
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