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well fuck.... ok fine. /accept
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Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun. The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy.
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On March 26 2013 08:25 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun. Did you really think he was serious about that? Show nested quote +
The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy.
How is it useless/scummy to get discussion going? Like I totally hate Obvious right now as well, but for different reasons.
I promote discussion, but asking someone to tell 2 truths and a lie really isn't getting us anywhere. What's the point in having people lie?
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Can we talk about something that people who didn't play personality can understand please?
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On March 26 2013 09:00 Keirathi wrote:Friends. Romans. Countrymen. Lend me your ears. The hour of the scum is past. It is OUR time now. Let us take what is rightfully ours. This world is full of liars and deceivers. We must root them out, flay the skin from their bodies, and show the whole world that no one dare trifle with us. We. Are. Legion. P.S. If any man dies with a clean sword, I will fuck your corpse. P.P.S: What the hells is this? Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun. The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy. Nothing is "maybe" scummy. It either is, or it isn't. Which is it?
Considering Obvious decided to "introduce" himself, and then leave, apparently without reading his role PM, it is.
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On March 26 2013 09:07 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 09:04 sinani206 wrote:On March 26 2013 09:00 Keirathi wrote:Friends. Romans. Countrymen. Lend me your ears. The hour of the scum is past. It is OUR time now. Let us take what is rightfully ours. This world is full of liars and deceivers. We must root them out, flay the skin from their bodies, and show the whole world that no one dare trifle with us. We. Are. Legion. P.S. If any man dies with a clean sword, I will fuck your corpse. P.P.S: What the hells is this? On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun. The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy. Nothing is "maybe" scummy. It either is, or it isn't. Which is it? Considering Obvious decided to "introduce" himself, and then leave, apparently without reading his role PM, it is. Do you really believe Obvious didn't read his role pm?
If he didn't he's lying about lying, which is pretty dumb.
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What's the point in saying that you haven't read your role though?
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I didn't mean that I believed he didn't read his PM.
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On March 26 2013 09:04 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 09:00 Keirathi wrote:Friends. Romans. Countrymen. Lend me your ears. The hour of the scum is past. It is OUR time now. Let us take what is rightfully ours. This world is full of liars and deceivers. We must root them out, flay the skin from their bodies, and show the whole world that no one dare trifle with us. We. Are. Legion. P.S. If any man dies with a clean sword, I will fuck your corpse. P.P.S: What the hells is this? On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun. The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy. Nothing is "maybe" scummy. It either is, or it isn't. Which is it? Considering Obvious decided to "introduce" himself, and then leave, apparently without reading his role PM, it is.
OK my wording here is a little off, I admit. I should have used "ostensibly" instead of "apparently".
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On March 26 2013 09:42 Acrofales wrote:
Lets put it this way: the only people with any reason to lie about not having read their role PM are scum. However, given my experiences, the 2 previous times I encountered this phenomenon, the player had in fact not read his role PM. Once was Drazerk, so good luck figuring out his motives. And the other was Ver in Personality 2, who was trying some new and improved way of playing, which failed miserably due to time constraints.
In both cases, lynching them would have been equivalent to a random lynch. I don't feel like random lynching, so lets find scum instead and IGNORE OO until he starts playing the damn game like a normal player.
I don't think ANYTHING that has happened so far says anything about anybody's alignment... except Marv, whose very existence proves he's scum.
I agree; didn't really mean to choose a day 1 lynch target with my first post. One suspicious intro post =/= instalynch.
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On March 26 2013 09:44 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 09:36 sinani206 wrote:I didn't mean that I believed he didn't read his PM. Then what did you mean?
I meant that there was no point for him to say that.
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On March 27 2013 03:53 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Grackaroni
Really?
Generally I wouldn't bring suspicion back this far, but if you have a three post filter at the beginning of day 1 and then ninja-vote halfway through the day, that's pretty suspicious. You could be in the middle of writing some really long analysis, but it's already been 40 minutes, so that's doubtful. What's up, man?
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On March 27 2013 04:28 Nisani201 wrote:
Good morning everyone.
The case on Grack is really weak, and if it were made by someone other than Palmar it probably wouldn't be getting nearly as far as it is now.
Just because Smurf made a bad case doesn't mean he's scum. He looks town now and there shouldn't be any suspicion on him.
Acrofales is making a bit more sense but his case on me is just a bunch of OMGUS. Acro, who is your secondary suspect?
How can you say such a huge blanket statement. It's day 1, what evidence do you have that Smurf is for sure town?
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On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy?
Question for you: what's your problem with me?
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On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?
So you're saying that if he claimed green to protect himself as a blue, and then claimed his true role, you would lynch him?
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Agree w/ Rayn. There's simply not enough information on Cora that makes him close to worth discussing.
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OK, Nisani is scum.
He's been using soft reads all game to make it look like he's contributing, saying people "look" or "feel" some way or another. He uses words like "possible" and "likely", phrases like "not really."
Asking others useless questions to fill up his posts.
Nisani is not acting as a townie should ask. He is hesitant and incomplete in his "analysis" and has been trying to deter discussion (here and here).
Not to mention voting prplhz with no reasoning and only 2 sentences mentioning him, asking for a vote count before voting.
Nisani's play is not townlike. There are no third parties. Therefore he is scum.
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oh yeah ##Vote: Nisani201
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oh wow vig kill while i was typing
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On March 27 2013 15:51 InsertSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:On March 27 2013 15:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
You guys are going from town games and saying it's somewhat different, when I'm going from a scum game and showing how it is ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.
Seriously. One scum game does not a scum meta make. Just like one town game does not a town meta make. I'm only giving you quotes specifically from Nomination because YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I can go link other town prplhz quotes to back me up if you want. And, your point completely falls apart when you look at other scum prplhz games. Hell, look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925 and compare it with LIX. They don't look alike. It looks the fucking same. Defending himself, stupid policy lynch idea, etc. Like, can you even read? FROM GSL: Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 07:26 prplhz wrote:On September 05 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
na I like to make you bitches work for it day1 policy lynch imo Show nested quote +On September 06 2012 06:09 prplhz wrote:
@Risen
Could you please tell me why you are voting me? Your explanation appears to be some metaphor that doesn't make any sense to me. Show nested quote +On September 06 2012 06:31 prplhz wrote:Fuck it. I can't believe that Risen can be serious about this. It's three posts into the game and the two posts before me were nonsense. He is actually trying to make a full case on me and I just can't believe he is serious about this. No benefit of the dumb here. Contrast this with his first vote in his latest game (clink). It's a pressure vote for someone who made a dumb vote but it's a while into the game and it's got more of a "whim" feeling about it. This looks a lot more careful but [u]we're three dumb posts into the game. I just can't believe this. ##Vote Risen FROM LIX: Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 10:43 prplhz wrote:
i am running for mayor
i will lynch chezinu
that's non negotiable
@Vivax Why are you running for mayor? All you say is "I might do this, I might do that, I don't like scum, vote for me." and it seems like you don't know why you are running for mayor either. Why would we put you into office over these vets that you're not going to lynch because of how valuable they are to town? Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:53 prplhz wrote:
@DearestSnot I don't like the idea of lynching me. Why do you want to lynch me? Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:47 prplhz wrote:
when no one has posted chezinu is clearly the best lynch. the guy is a lunatic in more ways than i care to know about and most importantly, he never seems very occupied with anything but himself and his lunacy and this makes for bad reads on him. if you don't want to get read then i believe it's a lot harder to play with you and chezinu is one of these (maybe the only one).
why would i "delurk" when you call me out but not when sandroba called me out? that makes no sense, sandroba is SANDROBA and you're just some german with a low post count. it makes a lot more sense that i was just around at that particular time especially considering that it was around 6pm iirc.
no i'm not worrying too much about who to lynch right now. i read gonzaw and he seems like a perfectly good mayor candidate to me and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all. that's why i asked who he wanted to lynch, so i could read up on that person. i don't see the JX thing that sandro sees.
i don't really care for you irrationally going for me because i seem to recall that you do that i most of your games. i think it's really weird that you're not spamming more though but maybe that's because you were smurfing and you didn't want to play like you usually do, you picked it up after you revealed yourself. Looks like a fucking scum meta to me! [/url]
k, using a little meta is fine, but not for your whole argument.
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On March 28 2013 04:14 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 04:13 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 04:13 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 04:09 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 04:06 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 04:01 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:Now as for Nisani, I just have him and Sinani labeled as lurkers. I did a brief dive through their metas last night, and basically arrived at the conclusion that they are lurk-tastic regardless of alignment. Of the two, I thought Sinani had a higher chance of flipping red. He came in and bombed a case at a time when I was railing against prplhz. Often I see scum make plays like this - slam down a confident case against a non-suspicious party in order to look original and throw the town into chaos. Furthermore, when he entered, he also randomly attacked Yamato and soft-pushed the current suspicion of the thread (prplhz) without giving any clear opinions on him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#814His filter reads a lot like clean scum-play, and his only real contribution is his case on Nisani, which reads a lot like a lynch-bait case. Also, I really didn't get scum-vibes from Nisani's filter. Yes it's short, and yes he doesn't justify his read on prplhz very much, but the way he pushed Acro early on (and how he came off Acro) seemed fairly genuine. Most of this makes no sense, but especially the bolded bit. His case didn't throw the town into chaos, and I can't even remotely see how it was ever going to throw the town into chaos. Given Acro had been pursuing Nisani already, I also don't see how it was against a "non-suspicious" party. What has Sinani done this game? His filter: 1) A really awkward exchange with me about OO not reading his role PM. 2) Prplhz suspicion he never follows up on: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=25#4973) A neatly packaged case on Nisani: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#8094) ...whilst concurrently making a snide comment against the person defending prplhz (and NOT commenting on his stance on prplhz) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#814It reads a lot like your archtypical "clean" scum-play. I've discussed this read with you before, and I've used it successfully in many games. If you disagree, what am I missing here in your view? The fact that sinani is pushing someone I think is mafia. Nisani's early push on Acro was nonsense as elaborated on by Acro himself. Since when does bad case = mafia? Since when does it = town? It's fucking null.
Yeah, but you were using it to defend him.
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On March 28 2013 04:17 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 04:15 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 04:14 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 04:13 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 04:13 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 04:09 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 04:06 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 04:01 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 03:57 Hapahauli wrote:Now as for Nisani, I just have him and Sinani labeled as lurkers. I did a brief dive through their metas last night, and basically arrived at the conclusion that they are lurk-tastic regardless of alignment. Of the two, I thought Sinani had a higher chance of flipping red. He came in and bombed a case at a time when I was railing against prplhz. Often I see scum make plays like this - slam down a confident case against a non-suspicious party in order to look original and throw the town into chaos. Furthermore, when he entered, he also randomly attacked Yamato and soft-pushed the current suspicion of the thread (prplhz) without giving any clear opinions on him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#814His filter reads a lot like clean scum-play, and his only real contribution is his case on Nisani, which reads a lot like a lynch-bait case. Also, I really didn't get scum-vibes from Nisani's filter. Yes it's short, and yes he doesn't justify his read on prplhz very much, but the way he pushed Acro early on (and how he came off Acro) seemed fairly genuine. Most of this makes no sense, but especially the bolded bit. His case didn't throw the town into chaos, and I can't even remotely see how it was ever going to throw the town into chaos. Given Acro had been pursuing Nisani already, I also don't see how it was against a "non-suspicious" party. What has Sinani done this game? His filter: 1) A really awkward exchange with me about OO not reading his role PM. 2) Prplhz suspicion he never follows up on: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=25#4973) A neatly packaged case on Nisani: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#8094) ...whilst concurrently making a snide comment against the person defending prplhz (and NOT commenting on his stance on prplhz) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=41#814It reads a lot like your archtypical "clean" scum-play. I've discussed this read with you before, and I've used it successfully in many games. If you disagree, what am I missing here in your view? The fact that sinani is pushing someone I think is mafia. Nisani's early push on Acro was nonsense as elaborated on by Acro himself. Since when does bad case = mafia? Since when does it = town? It's fucking null. Yeah, but you were using it to defend him. Yes. What's your point? I'm saying a major reason he's getting pushed is non-alignment indicative. Sounds pretty valid to me.
Well that case on Acro was never one of my reasons to go after Nisani anyway. Either way, there's a ton more stuff that you haven't really addressed specifically.
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On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:
Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.
Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?
It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.
My town read on you = gone. Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum?? You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure? I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1. It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched. @Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas. Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it. Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up. While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes. And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games.
Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused
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14:00 PDT is in 49 minutes
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On March 28 2013 05:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:11 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 28 2013 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
How can you say this is a powerplay to save Nisani, when I've been one of the primary pushers of Nisani today? For example, prplhz is voting Nisani pretty specifically because what I said about Nisani. What you say makes no sense, Cora. Then why are bringing up Kei now and not sticking with Nisani? Because I think Kei is a better lynch, dopeydrawers 
It's not a better lynch if he's not getting lynched. Not enough people are going to switch. Stay on Nisani.
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On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:
Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.
Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?
It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.
My town read on you = gone. Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum?? You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure? I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1. It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched. @Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas. Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it. Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up. While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes. And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games. Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?
As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game.
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On March 28 2013 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:
Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.
Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?
It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.
My town read on you = gone. Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum?? You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure? I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1. It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched. @Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas. Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it. Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up. While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes. And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games. Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play? As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game. ok you're scum
ok why
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On March 28 2013 05:20 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:19 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:
Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.
Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?
It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.
My town read on you = gone. Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum?? You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure? I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1. It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched. @Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas. Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it. Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up. While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes. And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games. Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play? As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game. ok you're scum ok why Because your extreme overgeneralization of my playstyle is total horseshit.
And that makes me mafia?
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Your OMGUS on me seems forced.
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I don't understand why everyone wants to switch off Nisani just because Hapa was spamming a shitty defense.
He is SCUM.
Look at his recent posts. More proof.
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k. Still changes nothing for me. Nisani is scum.
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OO ninja vote with 40 minutes left in the day ok.
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On March 28 2013 06:21 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Sinani
Do you have any ohter reads/opinions beside Nisani?
I have townreads but I'm not posting them in thread because posting townreads is dumb. (unless they're gonna get lynched of course)
Still think prpl is suspicious.
But yeah that's about it.
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On March 28 2013 06:55 Keirathi wrote:
Can we kill S&B tomorrow?
I'd be open to this... He seems to be staying under the radar very well. I'll look at it more in-depth tonight.
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He's gonna flip red, not even a question anymore.
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well apparently my gut is rusty...
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Hapa, please stop encouraging people to post vital information at night time. We have 48 hours to discuss the next lynch.
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He's asking people to claim and post all their reads at night. Who does that help?
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Not necessarily doubt, just curious why he needs to know this now.
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On March 29 2013 07:12 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 07:11 strongandbig wrote:On March 29 2013 07:10 ObviousOne wrote:On March 29 2013 07:09 strongandbig wrote:On March 29 2013 07:08 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm voting for Sinani and SNB. lol k I called in the thread first so people don't lose their shit again like when I vote first LOL not why i was lol'ing I know but sinani did it end of day yesterday so it made ME lol
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Oh yeah. Sorry about that.
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Also, I'd like to bring up the topic of prplhz. It just seems like he's been flying under the radar and I'm not entirely sure yet, but I'd like to hear something from him.
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So I unexpectedly didn't have service for the whole day. Going home now. I'll post more when I get there.
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I'm going to be pushing a prplhz lynch because he's the scummiest player in the game right now and is flying a little bit too low in most people's radars. His day one play is what triggered my scumdar and based on his play since then, I am completely sure of his alignment.
Day 1:
He pushed and Nisani exclusively day 1 (both out of nowhere, more about that in a second), and we can all agree that this was a rather easy target, after the multiple attacks on Nisani. His posts about Nisani did not show his thoughts in a very townie way either, deciding halfway through the day that Nisani was scum for no apparent reason (also said nothing in the main thread about unvoting Grack). Before that, nothing. Nothing useful at least. Some one-liners, random questions, and vague answers are all he had to show until he found someone to bandwagon. Then, his self-defense to Hapa was ridiculous. I don't even know why Hapa got off him randomly after that defense. I mean, Hapa's case wasn't the best, but that's OK, because it was mid-Day 1. This is full of meta-defense (useless) and circular logic. Then, after his suspicious of Smurf, prplhz jumps off because Smurf defended him. This is really scummy. Just because someone defends you doesn't mean they're on your side. Unless they unknowingly are. Prplhz decided not to want to kill someone purely because he was helping him stay alive.
Day 2:
Literally only one-liners. He said at night he had some reads, but I don't see any. OK, there's a null read on me, but I hadn't posted for a while there, so that's essentially nothing. He's been posting enough to look like he's keeping with the thread when in fact he is merely throwing votes on people with no explanation. Then there's this claim-but-not-really-a-claim, which looks to me like "I'm scum but lazy so I'll just claim some random role so people are confused and I can survive a few days to kill people."
Prplhz has been shitting on the thread since the beginning of the game, with no regard for the town of a game this small. We need all the help we can get, and I'm not seeing any of that in prplhz. He is even negatively affecting the game, asking questions that help only himself and his scumteam, and throwing anyone who is remotely suspicious of him far away.
I really don't understand how no one else sees this.
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On March 30 2013 12:37 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sorry. I meant why is prplhz so low in there?
Like why is Dandel over prplhz? Basically because prplhz actually has put in some effort into the game. And I've played scum with prplhz, and he literally put 0 effort into it. His posting during night 1 was what I expect of a town prplhz. The reason he's still on the list though is because it didn't come until after Hapa and I had been railing on him. Dandel has just trolled all game. I originally had him leaning town solely because of his activity level and participation, but there's no actual content there and his activity has fallen off dramatically. Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also what makes you think OO is town? I already explained. He is playing very, very, very different than his last scum game. Plus, some pre-game conversations I had with him in the last 2 weeks. He was worried that he was falling into the "bad townie that everyone ignores forever" category, and he genuinely wanted to improve. Everything about his play this game feels like he's working hard and putting in the effort to become a better player, even if he has been misguided at times.
How can you say that prpl is putting effort into this game?
The only effort I see is his self-defense on day one. Everything else is forced and/or sheepy and/or trolly. And why do his night posts convince you so much? Just read through those again and they don't really show any townie to me Also, he never posted the reads he talked about at night in the thread at daytime
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On March 30 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sinani do you have anyone else you think is mafia? You know, it's a double lynch and everything...
I was suspicious of you before, but I think that your posts today cleaned that up a bit. Also, I could lynch smurf, but I'm not completely convinced yet. Marv case really isn't doing anything for me at all. I was going to say something about Dandel in a bit, given he continues doing nothing.
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On March 30 2013 12:43 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2013 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sorry. I meant why is prplhz so low in there?
Like why is Dandel over prplhz? Basically because prplhz actually has put in some effort into the game. And I've played scum with prplhz, and he literally put 0 effort into it. His posting during night 1 was what I expect of a town prplhz. The reason he's still on the list though is because it didn't come until after Hapa and I had been railing on him. Dandel has just trolled all game. I originally had him leaning town solely because of his activity level and participation, but there's no actual content there and his activity has fallen off dramatically. On March 30 2013 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also what makes you think OO is town? I already explained. He is playing very, very, very different than his last scum game. Plus, some pre-game conversations I had with him in the last 2 weeks. He was worried that he was falling into the "bad townie that everyone ignores forever" category, and he genuinely wanted to improve. Everything about his play this game feels like he's working hard and putting in the effort to become a better player, even if he has been misguided at times. How can you say that prpl is putting effort into this game? The only effort I see is his self-defense on day one. Everything else is forced and/or sheepy and/or trolly. And why do his night posts convince you so much? Just read through those again and they don't really show any townie to me. Also, he never posted the reads he talked about at night in the thread at daytime. Also, I agree with your last point.
ebwop: hit post instead of preview, added grammar and a sentence
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Not going to be around for the lynch, but I'll probably be here for the next 20 minutes or so. We need to make use of the double lynch, so we should consolidate onto another target besides Smurf. I don't see prplhz getting lynched today, and I just looked again at some more of his other games, so I'll wait until tomorrow to push him more.
I don't know what the fuck Acro is trying to do, but this last minute claim is extremely scummy. It might not be useful to vote for him, but we still get information for having him as the highest voted target and it's a double lynch anyway.
And I'll vote Smurf to try to make sure scum can't do some last-minute vote switch thing to save a buddy. His lack of any defense whatsoever shows that he has given up on the game. He is surely mafia.
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To be fair, when else would you claim unlynchable besides when you're getting lynched?
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Well that was a little expected. But I'm happy Acro died for it. Clearly we're lynching smurf tomorrow (has he even posted since N1?) and we need to figure out who the last mafia are. I'm not sure I fully believe rayn's claim... He needs to answer the questions above. Also, I think prpl still looks scummy and don't understand why he's not being considered as much as others to be one of the final reds.
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I thought we always go by tl time? because I thought night ends at 0700.
Anyway, I don't see why you would give a confirmed scum a vig shot. Or even risk that happening. Not worth possibly killing him half a day earlier.
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I am a vanilla townie. Prplhz can test by targeting me tonight if he wants (if he's not lying with his claim), but I still think he's scum, maybe with that power, maybe with something else. That is all. Also, I'm voting smurf. Pushing prpl for lynch tomorrow.
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K i still think prpl is scum, and these last few pages convince me that Oats is too. Who else could it be? He's really been scumming up the thread. Also, rayn's claim seems really solid to me now.
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On April 02 2013 12:41 strongandbig wrote:
Sinani. You are confirmed mafia. Thoughts?
Thoughts: nope
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look, on the off chance that prpl is town, he could have tried to gun for a vanilla mafia and scum had 2kp, killed rayn and hapa
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well, you. (besides rayn). i just want to make sure he DID target rayn
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or at least one hosted by kurumi?
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