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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:50 GMT
#2795
He should prove his role or prove he's mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:50 GMT
#2796
Because i fucking know i'm town--
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#2797
If you tell him to kill me he does not prove his role nor does he prove he's mafia (because i will die). And there is ALWAYS a chance marv/Hapa/S&B one of them is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:52 GMT
#2799
so if prplhz will kill me i will try to figure out if someone else is mafia. As you guys have claimed not be a part of PM circle so... "what bad can it do"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:53 GMT
#2800
i will shoot marv if prplhz kills me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:56 GMT
#2802
Fine, according to everyone it does not change a thing so why not be "sure"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 22:59 GMT
#2804
Look, i don't give a shit if i die by process of elimination or by some other shit, but if you guys lose this game because you let prpl/sinani give guns to each other and shoot us all dead i say fuck you all..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:00 GMT
#2806
On April 03 2013 07:58 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2013 07:35 Keirathi wrote:
And even if they can, we have no way to stop it because we as town don't have any KP or protection aside from yours, rayn.

Which is why, if you are town, you need to be hitting one of prplhz/sinani and praying.

The only way i see mafia having 3 KP is if you tell prplhz to kill me, which ends up in losing a townie.. :E

You're missing the point.

If prplhz is scum and has been telling the truth about his role, he's probably going to use it tonight regardless. We have me+cora+hapa+you with "blue" claims. It really doesn't matter if he kills one of us, or you. But telling him who to kill means he has something to be accountable for. Killing anyone besides you proves that he's mafia, and killing you but you flip town ALSO proves that he's mafia. (*isclaimer: at least within a relative certainty. I still don't think any of Hapa/S&B/marv are scum).

Literally the only scenario that prplhz isn't proven to be mafia is if he shoots you and you flip scum.

What if prplhz has a gun right now and it's in fact sinani who is giving out guns, and he gives prpl the gun again?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:00 GMT
#2807
On April 03 2013 07:59 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i will shoot marv if prplhz kills me.

If you're town, then this is the fucking dumbest thing you've said all game.

If you waste your shot on marv and we end up losing because of it, I will rage at you so fucking hard when the game is over.

marv won't die if he is not lying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:07 GMT
#2810
Blarf.. Srsly, look at my actions and my claim and see if they match. Then go on and tell me how there is a 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance i am scum..

Really.. :/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:08 GMT
#2812
You basically want to kill a townie instead of having someone prove they are mafia/town.. I can't believe you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:10 GMT
#2813
I fucking told you why prplhz basically claimed scum (giving the gun to Smurf instead of sinani). I tell you now you can ONLY lose if you give prplhz a permission to shoot me tonight.

I tell you, if we lose this game idk what to say...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:11 GMT
#2814
EBWOP: The only way to lose is if you give prpl a permission to shoot me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:13 GMT
#2816
Fine, have fun having a chance to lose then. :/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:36 GMT
#2819
On April 03 2013 08:33 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
rayn going balls to the wall claiming mafia this phase


so i thought that but then i remembered how hard oats "claimed mafia" during the day phase with his own similar paranoid dont kill me stuff. so now i'm not so sure it's alignment indicative as opposed to paranoia indicative.

that said, ryan i don't think your stuff makes sense. the only reason prp giving the gun to smurf instead of sinani would have been "claiming scum" is if sinani had been non-vanilla mafia. however, your path to town losing relies on prp giving a gun to sinani tonight and sinani using it - ie, sinani being vanilla mafia. those two are incompatible.

Who is it to say sinani is vanilla and prpl has the ability and not vice versa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:38 GMT
#2820
And i explained it already. If prplhz had thought about it for like 5min (even i could do it from his PoV), he had the mafia team 100% in the bag had he given the gun to sinani last night whatever happened. You guys just don't think. :/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:46 GMT
#2823
It's still a factional KP kill, and me - townie guy lives, and i don't have to do anything stupid. And we are 50% sure prplhz is lying/telling the truth. Whatever, it doesn't even matter.

It would have mattered the last night though when you all disagreed with me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:53 GMT
#2824
Look:

N2 - prplhz gives the gun to sinani (assuming prpl is town and Smurf was "confirmed" mafia anyways):
1) sinani flips blue:
- prplhz knows me/Oats are mafia, ezpz

2) sinani doesn't flip:
- sinani is either vanilla town or vanilla mafia
- D4 we lynch Oats (who has claimed vanilla)
- N4 prplhz kills me, game ends or sinani is the other mafia, doesn't matter because you lynch him the next phase, prplhz proves his role at the same time.

Now:
This is the ONLY way where prplhz does not prove his role and can laugh to you and kill me without being responsible for it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 02 2013 23:54 GMT
#2825
EBWOP:
- D4 we lynch Oats (who has claimed vanilla)

If Oats flips mafia - me + sinani are scum
If town, one of us is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 03 2013 00:01 GMT
#2827
EBWOP:

2) sinani doesn't flip:
- sinani is either vanilla town or vanilla mafia
- D4 we lynch Oats (who has claimed vanilla)
- N4 prplhz kills me, game ends or sinani is the other mafia, doesn't matter because you lynch him the next phase, prplhz proves his role at the same time.

2) sinani doesn't flip:
- sinani is either vanilla town or vanilla mafia
- D3 We lynch Smurf -> mafia
- N3 prpl can shoot me (if town - Oats/sinani mafia, if scum, ggnore - either way proves his role)


fuck i fail at explaining.
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