The Game [N]

On March 16 2013 16:41 geript wrote:
When I hit the idea of tarot cards, there were a few things that didn't quite match up. First off the major arcana are usually comprised of roughly twenty or so cards. But in the setup there's only 17 named roles. Additionally the roles don't quite matchup exactly. The Devil, Fool and the Tower are straight copies. The Priest could be the Heirophant. The Empress could be the Snake or the Mirror. The others are harder to tell. Does anyone else think that this could be based off of a tarot reading?

On March 16 2013 16:20 ThePeashooter wrote:

Good morning all!

I would expect these numbers to be about accurate. To take it a step further we can look at the list and speculate what each name may relate to.

This is all assuming the role names indicate what the role might entail, which I doubt is much of a stretch. I think once we have some flips and have a better idea of how roles correspond to names/numbers.

As a warning to this, I imagine the host is well aware that having every name/role listed in the OP could be used to break the game if it were that straight forward. So we should keep that in mind if any sort of plan is brought up involving name claiming. I specifically remember a game I once played where the Mafia aligned team was able to kill an extra person each night if they could correctly guess their role/name. I wouldn't be surprised if that or a similar mechanism was designed into this given the information we have been presented with.

On March 16 2013 16:24 Wade Fell wrote:


Is this your first mafia game or are you really a smurf of someone i know trying to pull this garbage

On March 16 2013 22:30 sandroba wrote:
Update: Greymist is suspicious.

On March 16 2013 23:38 Hopeless1der wrote:


The use of anecdotal evidence to push a non-existent policy is pretty scummy here. Unless lynching townclaims has become a thing. Is this what the kenpachi rule is for, or is that only for kenpachi?

So uh, how about the part where he directly acknowledges that VE always opens up with a "hai I'm town" to some degree, and in spite of this, the townclaim is scummy? It should be read as null, every time, unless there's some meta "tone" read that I can't pick up on.
Overall, I read through this post and zarepath keeps playing devil's advocate with himself and answering his own questions. There is no mindset of wanting to solve the game to me. I think he's scum.

On March 17 2013 13:52 goodkarma wrote:
Well, here it comes... The promised post. While I don't know if it can live up to everyone's expectations, I'll do my best. These are the people I've currently focused my attention on.:

Greymist
First off, go through Greymist's filter and here's your challenge: find a game he's played in that is a serious one (e.g. non-caller) he solo played. I found one hydra game, and a caller game, but those aren't exactly helpful in this context. Hence why I asked. I'm 99% sure that people just spewed out the accusation I was too lazy to search without even thinking to look themselves, because that's their level of fucking lazy... I sifted through the 10 pages and couldn't find anything...

Greymist is someone that has contributed nothing of value to date. What little he has said seems to be either completely not relevant to the game, general agreement to remarks made, or concern about being accused in the case of sandroba. He hasn't stuck his neck out at all, and is currently on my scumlist. He is my top scumread, as unlike some other lurker-type players, he's had ample opportunity to contribute and every time he's opted to provide nothing of value.

##Vote: Greymist

Darthpunk
Darthpunk is someone whose play I know can be stellar as both town and scum, yet currently I'm leaning towards scum. He has been lurking the thread rather hard, which is uncharacteristic of both his town and scum play. Yet what little he has said just doesn't make sense to me as town. He seems content to lynch the first (trolly) thing that moves (gerupt), and then to not followup in thread at all... This is definitely not pro-town, and I'm leaning scum on him, but I'd really like to see more from him. It's the biggest reason I've been trying to wait before giving scumreads, because I was really expecting more from him.

Peashooter
When it comes to thepeashooter, I was in general agreement with blazinghand's case. However, what sticks out to me is that instead of backing down, he's decided to maintain his case against coagulation. This is not the kind of move I'd expect from scum, as all it does is have him keeping his neck stuck out in general view. It would have been much easier for him (as scum) to move to a popular target and hide behind him. As such, I'm inclined to not vote for him this cycle and give him a chance. This is not a wagon I plan to get behind.

Sandroba
Finally, there's Sandroba. What worries me most about Sandroba is that lurking the shit out of thread is a scumtell for him. I'm thinking specifically of the scumgame he had in chrono trigger mafia, the only game I've personally played with him. There, past a certain point, he kind of just completely gave up trying. If he can't contribute any further by the deadline, my vote will likely switch to him.

On March 17 2013 14:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey Grey is here! Whatchoo think of TestSubject Grey? One of The Team has a hardon for him and I'm looking him over now.

On March 17 2013 14:45 Wade Fell wrote:
Yeah I gotta admit the new GK post isn't super sexy :| but GK is not a sexy man. contrast his "promised post" in NMMXXIV though (link) and it's like exactly the friggen same. This is town GK. I'll even quote his post so you can see it and I like never do that

+ Show Spoiler +

is it shit? yes. But that was town GK, and this is town GK

On March 17 2013 14:55 VisceraEyes wrote:


I got this too. Aside from participating in a little dick waggling with BH I haven't seen much scummy from him either.

What do you think about Sandroba? He thinks you're mightily suspicious apparently.

On March 17 2013 15:01 goodkarma wrote:
@Grey:




First off, while you're here would you kindly provide a game you've played in?

Secondly I call you my top scumread, and say exactly why. With like half the players in lurker mode, as scum I would have ample "easy targets" to choose from. But as I've said, and as you've failed to discredit, you have been around. Every time you pop in though it's to bring up another shitty one-liner of no content or substance. And yes, you've had an extended absence, but that wasn't even the focus of my arguement. It was based on when you were here. Only when you're accused do you seem to be inspired to contribute anything more. "Easy" or no, you as described are my top scum read.

Even including this quoted post, everything you've done is safe.

Edit: more content for me to analyze now apparently but going to be posting this anyway since thread is going pretty fast...

On March 17 2013 15:11 goodkarma wrote:


Maybe what I'm trying to get at is with the time it took you to make those 5-6 "one-liners" you could have made a few higher-value posts but chose not to...

And congrats on themed game win%, but sadly that still doesn't really show me how you perform in a normal game. I guess I'll just have to assume you don't play them, and I'll have no history to look through...

On March 17 2013 15:20 Coagulation wrote:
who the fuck is bh

On March 18 2013 02:16 Vivax wrote:


This is simply not true (and I am sure you read my post), the evidence is that he starts the game much more differently than in his town games.
In his town games he starts with questions, says what he finds suspicious or townie, but most importantly, he gives reasons. Reasons, grey, that's the bsbsbsbs after saying something.




Two townreads. No reasoning.
Neutral statement about BH.
Meaningless statement about VE.
TPS leaning town for his setup speculation.



I think it was Ryu(?) who pointed out that this post is strange. It's actually hard to tell if Sandro is trolling or serious but cause of this previously:



I'd say he was serious.
No explaining behind why Greymist is suspicious for this:



I actually agree that Greymist's comment was off (implying BH would kill TPS immediately for the setup speculation, but thinking about it, it sure looked like it), however I don't think it's indicative of alignment at all, it's just that, sounding strange. No particular agenda, rather asking BH in a weird way if he would lynch TPS for that.





So well, greymist, I don't actually get at all why you feel the need to defend sandro when he attacked you in such a way that doesn't seem genuine to me.
Ryu pointed it out in a good way. It looks like sandro was just acting, and you just not caring.

On March 18 2013 02:37 layabout wrote:

WoS has done bugger all but is telling us he has been doing stuff. He complains about inactivity whilst being inactive and he tried to shoot down SAST which is something i expect sum would do.

I don't want to lynch GK since his reads made sense from a town perspective.

What do you think about DarthPunk?

On March 18 2013 02:48 kitaman27 wrote:


This doesn't make sense.

You were "waiting for this"?

So are you saying you were setting a trap, being afk without contributing anything, and then when someone calls you out about it, you're going to pounce on them?

How do you distinguish between a pressure vote and a real vote anyways? At that point it seemed quite reasonable to vote for you, I was considering it. I still think it would be reasonable to vote for you. So say I voted for you, rather than the guy leading the lynch vote. Would I have fallen for your "trap"? I find this scummy.

As for goodkarma, I haven't moved my vote because I was sastisfied with his response. I am still leaning scum on him, though with GreYMisT and goodkarma going after each other, I'm not sure if they are trying to create distance or one of them is actually town. I think Vivax is a more sure bet however, based on the slip early.

On March 18 2013 02:45 Vivax wrote:
I know. I used that wording in a cocky way since I felt very sure about having yamato in front of me. He didn't answer though and it might sound like I slipped his identity to others (assuming it's really him).

I think it's a stupid reason to lynch me although I would probably think something similar in your position. But if you do it, won't be my fault you lose something valuable.

On March 18 2013 02:51 Vivax wrote:


Regarding this: I wanted to know if the guy is yamato cause if he is, I'd give him a townread (Feeling sure he was at that moment). If you go look, my read on him changed after his two big, abrasive posts (go look them up with the # at my post), where I assumed he was yamato cause yamato has an extensive work schedule and posts like that towards people who accuse him often.

Kita, can you look at my cases regarding sandro, cosmic and DYH before jumping to conclusions and tell me what you agree and disagree with?

On March 18 2013 03:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Hmm I didn't notice the "I think" part that was mentioned later after he references yamato directly. Without the scumslip, I think I'd rather go back to GoodKarma. GreYMisT, you mentioned it was the response, not the scumslip that you found suspicious. Does this change your views at all?

On March 18 2013 09:02 DarthPunk wrote:


Give me a reason why I am looking scummy right now that isn't activity. I would really love to engage in some rational conversation with you.

On March 18 2013 09:34 geript wrote:
Greymist is by far the better lynch today. I don't see how he's added anything constructive. Share paths inconsistencies can be explained by other things and is at least worth a day of listening too. Your fucktarded if you can't even see that.