EPTBH I'm not sure how it goes with revealed mason-type stuff, but I'm assuming you'll be choosing a new target today.
Would it be a bad idea to reveal to the town whom you will be choosing?
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BH I'm not sure how it goes with revealed mason-type stuff, but I'm assuming you'll be choosing a new target today. Would it be a bad idea to reveal to the town whom you will be choosing? | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:08 sciberbia wrote: errr, who in this game exactly would you consider to be both relatively experience and to have contributed a significant amount? VE and BH? You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta.... | ||
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I'd certainly like to see some more solid reads from him during the day though, as there won't be any excusing a second day of the bare minimum of contribution. I'm interested to hear his thoughts on zare and whether he's changed his mind since reading him as scummy earlier in the day (without committing...) | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:14 Mocsta wrote: THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile. Started playing in the new year 2013 More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky. | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:20 Mocsta wrote: It was pretty fuckn clear Keir was town without a flip... I agree with this. Scib, thoughts on your scumlist now that you're not dead? | ||
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Zare this is more like it. I expect more of this from you during the day. Who is your top scumread of all of those you have listed? Also with regards to the BH 'scumslip,' Vivax, there is something I remember in the logs that bothered me a little, I have to go re-read and find it. I didn't originally bring it up because I was leaning town on BH but his tunneling of TPS (who is leaning town for me) and the recent evidence against him (waiting on yours too, geript) makes me want to go find it again. | ||
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It's the timestamps that bother me. Between BH and GK, (the ones Vivax suspects of being a scumteam-fabricated QT/logs) every single post has a fairly decent size berth in between; the smallest one being 3 minutes right at the end, the next smallest being 5 minutes (2-lines) and every one after that being 12 min or longer in between posts. This means that it's POSSIBLE that they were fabricating these posts in the scum QT in between. This isn't possible in the VE-BH logs, as there is evidence of free-flowing quick conversation taking place with multiple 2-minute spaces in between posts from both of them. Also of course the fact that they didn't even start contacting each other until much later in the day either means a) they were planning in the scum QT b) BH didn't send his mason request till late (can be a subset of (a), null) c) he's telling the truth and DrH didn't set up the QT until later. The post where Vivax outlines the slip makes option (c) seem VERY odd so the scummier options seem more likely here. Now this could all be Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ but I figure it's worth putting out there to see what people think. | ||
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On March 20 2013 01:46 zarepath wrote: Mr. Wiggles. He refuses to present reads, and hasn't had a read on anyone since the GM flip. Since I originally had a townread on Wiggle (and you appear to be right) I'd really like to see something from him. I don't think anyone on D2 can be excused of lack of activity/reads now since most of thread is fairly active and scumhunting. | ||
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And also I've seen nothing but belligerence from you in the thread so far; how does that make you any different from TPS? | ||
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On March 20 2013 04:52 Vivax wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2013 04:51 zarepath wrote: VE, what is the name of your role? You never said, you just claimed Vet. What's the purpose of this question? Don't you believe the claim? Zare is scum rolecop imo | ||
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On March 20 2013 04:55 zarepath wrote: I believe it for now, but there's no reason to not ask for information that can only help town at this point. It's not as if mafia will learn from the name of his role what his power is, because he's already claimed. I just found it odd he didn't say it when the other blue claim did, and can't think of how revealing it would hurt town. How exactly would it HELP town? This looks REAL scummy zare. | ||
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On March 20 2013 04:59 zarepath wrote: Yes, now with my knowledge of the name of VE's role, I shall be able to ascertain what his role is! I am so diabolical. I just don't understand how it hurts town to claim the name, and I CAN understand a mafia claimed vet but not wanting to say the role because they're worried somebody else has that name, especially in a game where we don't know exactly which role corresponds to which name. I don't suspect VE of that, but I don't see any reason why he shouldn't remove all potential suspicion alotgether and just claim the name, yo. If you don't suspect VE of that, does that mean you don't suspect BH either since he claimed the role name? | ||
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I also never said they faked the logs entirely, I assume by the timestamps that they were actually using the mason QT but it is a possibility they are using the scum QT to discuss what to put in the mason QT in case they had to show logs. Much like my conspiracy theory-type posts from LX, I can perfectly understand if people think they're retarded, but I think it's at least worth consideration. | ||
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On March 20 2013 05:06 zarepath wrote: I don't suspect him of fake-claiming, if that's what you mean, because I'm in a QT with him. He could be faking the color of his role, but that's not what I'm talking about. If we force everyone who blue-claims to state the name of their role, we can essentially shut down all fake roleclaims from scum because there will either be someone with the power they're claiming (a DT or medic or vet or what have you), or someone who has the name that they're claiming, but it goes to a different power. I think your speculation as to a power involving the names of roles is coming more from your distrust of me than it is from any logical perspective. No, I'm just curious to know what you think about BH since you're in a QT with him and I'm assuming there has been no activity as of yet. The problem with asking people to claim their roles is not all the roles will even be in existence if you read OP, and we have no idea as to the alignment of them. Yes it is a risky move for scum to claim the name of a role in case someone else has it, but chances are if it's a scum role name, no one else will have it and no one else would know. We all thought Nightmare was town, didn't we? | ||
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You have also sort of flip-flopped on whether you find BH scummy or null-scum or what have you, so I'm trying to divine a true alignment read from you on him. | ||
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I'll look into cosmic's VE case again, but in the end I think it just makes me assume that one of either VE or BH has to be scum. The super hard defense of GK by BH makes me think if he's scum then likely GK is too btu I don't know how likely that is, despite my conspiracy theory and the QT 'scumslip.' Speaking of which I remember harboring concerns about VE's town circle earlier on D1, but now we're on D2 and we haven't heard anything. Was it a joke or what? | ||
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On March 20 2013 05:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm a Coward. I act as a Veteran as far as I can tell. This confused me a little VE. Do you not know what your role does? It seemed odd when you were claiming too: On March 19 2013 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I took a hit. I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town. And then right after you state it's because you're Vet. Explain? | ||
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Yeah VE I remember that post now, although i think I was confused at the time because of you mentioning 'The Team,' I'm not sure if it was an idea you still wanted to keep going rather than using ONLY as a conversation starter. Anyway, looking into the reads on Wiggle/VE now. | ||
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