EPTCan you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE?
Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though.
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Can you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE? Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though. | ||
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On March 19 2013 13:38 Keirathi wrote: Yo scib I still haven't finished reading (I got caught up in huge IRC chat, and Hydra+Personality ending), but why do you seem all bark and no bite this game? You know I have a *TON* of respect for your town game. I'm not feeling it so far this game, though. What do?  And I was so looking forward to your first post Keirathi. Yea I'm not too happy with my play this game either. I hate lynching townies. As to "all bark and no bite" I know what you mean. This game feels different to me, maybe because of the size. I feel like I haven't been guiding town sufficiently well.Don't know what else to say though. Maybe you have *TOO* much respect for my town game. I'll do my best to not disappoint on D2. How bout that. Also, please be town. | ||
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On March 19 2013 14:07 Keirathi wrote: EBWOP: But certainly, if you play more up to my standards on day 2, all is good <3 OK OK you have motivated me to spend every available waking moment on this game for the next 48 hours. D2 scum lynch incoming. Now it'll be really tragic if I get shot tonight x_x | ||
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On March 18 2013 23:26 zarepath wrote: I am re-reading through the thread right now, but this makes me think that TPS is town. On March 19 2013 02:25 zarepath wrote: I think that if TPS were town he would have at this point told us whether Vivax was guessing or not, because right now it makes both of them look scummy. Care to clarify your stance on TPS zarapeth? Keirathi, talk to me about zarepath. Everything in his filter says scum to me but he keeps reminding me of my Forumite mistake from Dwarf Mini with his apologies and multiple self-contradictions. I'd greatly appreciate your opinion on him. | ||
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I did one readthrough of everyone's filter during night-phase. Here are the people I felt best about being town: vivax, DP, DYH And here are people I think have a decent chance of being scum: geript WoS BH glurio zarapeth trancestorm cosmicomics Meh not sure I should even post this. Well if I die, at least look into the filters I listed for possible scum. | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:05 DoYouHas wrote: Gotta say, that instantly makes me like a zarepath lynch much less. same | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Aside from BH, I see a common theme in your scum list, that is, players who either have barely contributed or could be seen as newbies. I don't like it, and not just because I'm included. errr, who in this game exactly would you consider to be both relatively experience and to have contributed a significant amount? VE and BH? | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:07 Wade Fell wrote: Sciberbia, what do YOu think about TPS? you talk about him a lot (link)(link)(link)(link) but I don't see any comments on his alignment besides an early null (link) I have 'leaning town' in my notes. I will look over what you have said about him and make a more thorough evaluation. | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:12 Ace wrote: How does Keirathi's death paint zarepath as innocent? I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip. | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:16 WaveofShadow wrote: More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky. I'd be happy to explain any of those reads. I just threw them out there so people would have something to look through if I got shot. Right now I am going to look into TPS though as requested by BH. Also, I am definitely pretty new (I think this is my 4th non-newbie game) and yea I don't even know goodkarma or Mocsta. Anyway, I'm off to catch up on the BH situation and read his post on TPS. | ||
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Wade Fell I've been thinking about the recent messenger claim, and I've concluded that we should not consider lynching BH in the near future despite VE's accusations. First of all, the fact that he is a mason explains why he was oddly confident that GK was town yesterday. Next, keep in mind that he KNEW there was a flipped town mason role when he chose to contact VE. Seems like a pretty reckless move as scum. If BH is scum, there was nothing stopping him from "masoning" with one of his scumpartners and avoiding suspicion. + Show Spoiler + Of course there is the possibility that both VE and BH are scum and this is some crazy play, but I'm going to dismiss that for now as quite unlikely There are still a few things about BH's D1 play I find scummy, but after reading through the events of N1, my gut tells me town. And anyway, just as a matter of strategy, he is confirmed blue/scum. If he is blue, scum will have to choose between leaving a blue vet alive and using a KP on him. Win/Win for us. And if he is scum, that will probably become more obvious later down the line once we know more about the setup (and perhaps see the flips of GK and VE). Anyway, I have a post written about about TPS for mr. wade fell so that's coming next. | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:07 Wade Fell wrote: Sciberbia, what do YOu think about TPS? you talk about him a lot (link)(link)(link)(link) but I don't see any comments on his alignment besides an early null (link) The Peashooter Not sure how you missed it, but I did give an updated read on him in one of those links, in which I explained why I thought there was a pretty good chance he is town. Mainly due to his seeming lack of interest in the lynch, I am now neutral on TPS. accusation that his first post was scummy Setup speculation is tempting and I don't expect people to scumhunt in the first hour of the game. + Show Spoiler + If anything, it makes me think townier of him. Does it seem like a typical scum move to get your role PM, meet up with your scumbuddies in the QT, and immediately spend 20 minutes constructing some half-assed setup speculative post, and introducing yourself to the thread with it? IMO, the answer is no. Also, he did not even preview his first post. I think scum would be nervous about blundering with their first post and make sure to at least give it a preview. accusation of fake anger at spam I don't see sufficient evidence that his anger at your spamming was faked. First of all, it's not like he went on a tirade. He just told you to shut up and consolidate. Secondly, it makes perfect sense that he was mad at you for spamming (as opposed to VE) because he was already pissed at you from your earlier disagreements with him. Thirdly, the sequence of posts he mentions was in fact annoying. Particularly when you and VE spent several posts talking about some other game. accusations about opting out of town discussion I agree it is a cause for concern that he spent a lot of time talking about Coag when it was pretty obvious that Coag was not a popular lynch target. He could have been using this tunnel as an easy way to appear to be participating as scum. It does bother me that he was content to sit on Coag and for much of D1 even when there is no support at all for a Coag lynch. This is IMO your strongest point against him. accusation concerning his post where he votes GreyMist I agree it is a bit suspicious how he just sheeps onto the GreyMist wagon and doesn't show a lot of interest in the lynch. However, it is also possible that he was genuinely busy, and he was certainly not the only one to show disinterest in the lynch. In conclusion, I am pretty neutral on TPS. I could see him as either alignment. I am therefore not interested in lynching him on the evidence thus far. | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:21 WaveofShadow wrote: I agree with this. Scib, thoughts on your scumlist now that you're not dead? I formed reads based off of everyone's D1 filter. Here is my reasoning in brief behind each name on my scumlist: geript:+ Show Spoiler + I took minor issue with his very start of the game. My major issue with geript was this sequence of events: geript: Zarepath is SCUM geript: Please vote for zarepath. Let's lynch him. geript: Hmm actually I think I'd feel better about a GM lynch. geript: You are fucktarded if you think zarepath is a better lynch than GM. geript: You should obviously give zarepath another day to prove his innocence. geript: No actually I'm changing my vote to zarepath because of some minor evidence DYH gave, even though the lynch is in an hour and it's 100% decided Obviously I am paraphrasing, and I left out some details of the story, but that is the general gist, and I see a fishy inconsistency regarding his stance on Zarepath. WoS:+ Show Spoiler + Says nothing important for a good portion of D1. Just blends in a lot. Says TPS/Vivax compelling but ends up null, and then hops on bad DP wagon. Helped get GreyMist lynched. I really don't see the sarcasm about DP super active N1, will have to read closer BH:+ Show Spoiler + I already posted my notes on BH and I recently made another post about him. See those for thoughts. glurio:+ Show Spoiler + super blendy D1; hardly any original opinions puts a useless vote on sandroba sheeps VE onto bad DP wagon shows not much interest in who actually gets lynched overall does just about the bare minimum you can do D1 and still claim you played the game zarapeth:+ Show Spoiler + I think I've covered this enough. trancestorm:+ Show Spoiler + enters the thread by responding to some relatively pointless comment and discouraging scumhunting.. hardly does anything D1 says he has no reservations about a zarepath lynch but does not consolidate instead leaves his vote uselessly on DYH cosmicomics:+ Show Spoiler + is a smurf who does nothing enters thread by asking one unimportant question and then leaves for three hours sheeps a bad case on DP then leaves thread for 23 hours bizzarely unvotes DP for seemingly no reason <-- need to look into this more suspicious timing of vote on GreyMist another one who barely played the game D1 Unfortunately, it is now 8AM here so I really must go to bed. I am determined to lynch scum today, and will be hard at work when I wake up tomorrow. Good night. | ||
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In response to your remark about BH, knowing that someone is blue or scum is significant. For example if you have a claimed detective on D1, who claims to be able to get a guaranteed 1 check per day, then you would be a fool to lynch him. Obviously BH's claim is less powerful, but the principle is the same. If he is blue, he becomes more valuable the longer he is alive. And if he is scum, it becomes more obvious the longer he is alive. In response to your first question about TPS, yes I examined TPS's filter and the case against TPS made by BH and came up neutral on TPS for reasons I have explained. In response to your second question about TPS, I think it is undeniable that TPS did not do much discussing of candidates like GK, Zarepath, DP, or GreyMist with the town. There are two explanations: 1. TPS is scum and intentionally chose not to discuss those candidates for fear it would give him away as scum. Therefore he parked his vote on Coag so he wouldn't have to discuss anyone else. 2. TPS is town and he genuinely wanted to lynch Coag. He was too lazy and/or did not have enough time to discuss other lynch candidates with town. I think both explanations are plausible. As to who I want to lynch today, I really wish I knew. Right this second, I feel like cosmicomics is a promising candidate. I think it's rather odd how he unvoted DP for seemingly no reason. I plan to look into this more tomorrow. Also, I still think zarepath is an option. Do you have any snide other questions for me before I go to sleep? | ||
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@Kitaman I believe you are referring to DYH doing some meta research on Zerapath. And he did indeed follow up on it. Just filter DYH @Mocsta While filtering you I found this. On March 19 2013 17:08 Mocsta wrote: Indulge me.. why are guys like Coagulation being allowed to fly under the radar? I'm actually leaning town on Coag. Hence, no need to bring him up. And I suspect the rest of the thread lives in terror of having their head bitten off if they dare try to make a read on him. Anyway, if you've played with Coag before, what say you to this: On March 18 2013 17:34 sciberbia wrote: - Coag hopped on the DP bandwaggon in the voting thread despite never mentioning him in his filter. Is this normal Coag behavior? Too scummy to be scum? | ||
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I agree with the general sentiment that lynching either BH or VE is dumb today as a matter of general strategy. There is no really strong evidence that either of them is scum. I don't think they should be lynch candidates. I don't feel that great about a zarepath lynch. I've looked a little more into cosmicomics since last night and I think there's a decent chance he's scum. I'll return to him if I'm disappointed by my conclusion on WoS. On first read, I like the kitaman case on WoS. I was already suspicious of WoS as I noted earlier today. I plan to have a good long look at everything WoS-related this game, and hopefully be able to conclude that WoS is the scum lynch we need today. So that's where I'm at. @WoS If you are town, I request that play to win the game. | ||
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On March 20 2013 12:02 Coagulation wrote: sciberbia I have no idea who you are I dont even remember you being in this game your very under the radar. lets pretend that theres not a giant line to take a shit on WOS and hes not thrashing around like an idiot asking for it. Who would you vote if he wasnt an option? cosmicomics | ||
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