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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 17 2013 20:05 GMT
#582
On March 18 2013 04:57 sciberbia wrote:
Wiggles, how would you feel about a GreyMist or zarepath lynch?


VE, same question to you. Particularly GreyMist.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 17 2013 20:27 GMT
#586
goodkarma, can you answer to the point that was brought up (i forget by whom) about you at first saying that sandroba is lazy as both alignments and must be judged on the quality of his reads, and then later voting him for lurking?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 00:19 GMT
#624
On March 17 2013 08:51 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:

Sandro:

I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.

What does town sandro look like?

What do you think of DarthPunk?

You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?"

So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?

##Vote: DarthPunk


At the same time, do you really see scum laying a vote down that early? I'll have to check, but I dont' think thread sentiment was exactly pushing for a geript lynch.

On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.

Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.

The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.

I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.

I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.

##Vote: DarthPunk


Why did you defend DP from cosmicomics yesterday if you thought his first post was suspiciously over the top and you suspected him?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#631
Just so everyone knows where I stand:

I'm still pretty interested in lynching zarepath and Greymist. Leaning more toward zarepath. GK might be scum but I'm more and more thinking he's town because of the way he's continually interacted with the thread while under pressure. Yes he is floundering a bit but that can happen to townies under pressure too. I'm also not a fan of the case on DP. I think his early vote is more likely a townie move because it draws attention to him. The fact that he is counterattacking everyone who attacked him is a common townie response. Furthermore, it seems like he genuinely wants to get VE lynched.

I'm stuck doing some dumb schoolwork right now, but after I'm done I hope to help us consolidate onto a good lynch. Will just be keeping up with the thread until then. 3.5 hours at the most. Hopefully less..
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 00:41 GMT
#635
On March 18 2013 09:34 geript wrote:
Greymist is by far the better lynch today. I don't see how he's added anything constructive. Share paths inconsistencies can be explained by other things and is at least worth a day of listening too. Your fucktarded if you can't even see that.

lol are you talking to me?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 00:46 GMT
#638
On March 18 2013 09:43 geript wrote:
Both you and DP.

Well if I'm fucktarded for agreeing with your top two reads in reverse order, I can't wait to see you address the rest of the thread voting for GK, DP, etc.

Carry on.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 01:04 GMT
#648
On March 18 2013 09:53 geript wrote:
I don't think my exploits last game need to be documented anymore. I played shitty and stupid and got myself mislynches. As town. I at least can empathize with Zare's position. Yes, I still think he's likely to be scum. But I'd be a stupid, cold heartless bastard to not have put myself in his shoes and considered how I would act. Or have acted. He's at least worth the effort to try and get a better read on or we may be able to get more useful information out of if he's scum. It's at least worth a wait.


If someone is scum, we should lynch them. Play to win. I recall a post you made yesterday where you said, and i quote, "zarepath is SCUM", and he has certainly not done any town-telling since then.

DYH, I look forward to your conclusions from looking through zarepath's meta.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 01:19 GMT
#654
yesterday:
On March 17 2013 15:30 geript wrote:
I don't see any evidence from that game that Zarepath thought that claiming or not claiming town was in anyway alignment indicative. I also don't see how he would've formed a different opinion on the matter as I'm not aware of other games he's played in the mean time. The Zarepath that I remember from NMM37 was reasonable and interacted with the thread more. This Zarepath looks intentionally dense. I'm personally pissed that Sciberbia stole my thunder. Zarepath is SCUM.

On March 18 2013 00:30 geript wrote:
Fine, what are your reservations on a zarepath lynch?

On March 18 2013 00:56 geript wrote:
Sorry, missed that last line. Ok, then other than the quoting thing are there other reasons to be voting for TPS over Zarepath?


today:
On March 18 2013 09:34 geript wrote:
Greymist is by far the better lynch today. I don't see how he's added anything constructive. Share paths inconsistencies can be explained by other things and is at least worth a day of listening too. Your fucktarded if you can't even see that.

On March 18 2013 09:53 geript wrote:
I don't think my exploits last game need to be documented anymore. I played shitty and stupid and got myself mislynches. As town. I at least can empathize with Zare's position. Yes, I still think he's likely to be scum. But I'd be a stupid, cold heartless bastard to not have put myself in his shoes and considered how I would act. Or have acted. He's at least worth the effort to try and get a better read on or we may be able to get more useful information out of if he's scum. It's at least worth a wait.


Does anyone else find this sequence of posts disturbing? Geript was clearly a big fan of lynching zarepath yesterday. He was in fact pushing the zarepath lynch. Since yesterday, zarepath looks if anything scummier, and the bandwagon on him has gotten stronger, and suddenly geript refuses to lynch him anymore.

I can't help but wonder if the geript + zarepath theory was right all along.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#665
Can somebody get a vote count?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 02:13 GMT
#669
@GreY
What are your thoughts on zarepath?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 02:43 GMT
#673
Kitaman, do you have an opinion on zarepath?

Also DYH, did you find anything interesting in zarepath's meta?

I guess I'll go make a votecount myself. Seems like we are between zarepath and greymist tho.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 03:08 GMT
#682
unofficial, possibly incorrect, vote count:

goodkarma (3): GreYMisT, kitaman, kenpachi
GreYMisT (9): Ryu, GK, Vivax, Geript, coagulation, cosmicomics, wade fell, wiggles, TPS
zarepath (5): sciberbia, Hopeless1der, DYH, DP, layabout
DoYouHas (1): TranceStorm
DarthPunk (5): VE, WoS, glurio, Coagulation, zarepath

not voting (2): Hyaach, TestSubject893

If a host could give an official one that would be great.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 03:15 GMT
#684
updated unofficial vote count

goodkarma (2): GreYMisT, kitaman
GreYMisT (11): Ryu, GK, Vivax, Geript, coagulation, cosmicomics, wade fell, wiggles, TPS, kenpachi, zarepath
zarepath (5): sciberbia, Hopeless1der, DYH, DP, layabout
DoYouHas (1): TranceStorm
DarthPunk (4): VE, WoS, glurio, Coagulation

not voting (2): Hyaach, TestSubject893
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 03:15 GMT
#686
On March 18 2013 09:19 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:51 zarepath wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:

Sandro:

I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.

What does town sandro look like?

What do you think of DarthPunk?

You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?"

So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?

##Vote: DarthPunk


At the same time, do you really see scum laying a vote down that early? I'll have to check, but I dont' think thread sentiment was exactly pushing for a geript lynch.

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote:
Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far.

Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum.

The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive.

I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him.

I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk.

##Vote: DarthPunk


Why did you defend DP from cosmicomics yesterday if you thought his first post was suspiciously over the top and you suspected him?


@zarepath
Can you answer to this?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 06:28 GMT
#702
@geript
Why are you voting Zarepath now? You just called me fucktarded for thinking he's a better lynch than GreyMist.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 06:59 GMT
#709
fuck. that was a good role too. goddammit
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 08:34 GMT
#712
Sucks to lynch a townie, but I encourage everyone to make good use of the night phase by reading over filters so that we can redeem ourselves D2.

Couple things I've noticed so far:

- The DP wagon was pretty bad IMO. I just read through DP's filter and holy hell did he have to put up with a lot of shit. I will be looking hard at people that sheeped onto that wagon (glurio, cosmic, WoS, zarepath)

- Coag hopped on the DP bandwaggon in the voting thread despite never mentioning him in his filter. Is this normal Coag behavior? Too scummy to be scum?

- I can't get the geript + zarepath theory out of my head. I will probably make a post further expounding upon this before the deadline.

- Hyaach didn't post. Is Hyaach going to be an unflipped modkill?




I'll probably be around for a while reading filters and would be happy to converse with anyone else online so this doesn't become a silent night.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 18 2013 21:27 GMT
#808
I liked Vivax's analysis for the mostpart. Several of his conclusions line up with mine. I agree that the people that joined the GreyMist wagon very late are not as concerning as the people that joined it in the middle. Of course this is predicated on the fact that zarepath is scum, which may or may not be true.

Also, I was very happy to see Keirathi is replacing in. I'm sure Ace and Mocsta are cool too, although I have never played with them before. Welcome all.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 19 2013 04:10 GMT
#904
Wade Fell scum sounds reasonable to me VE. Here are the notes I made on him:

Wade Fell
- early game a bit sketchy
- defends zarepath but interested in response to question
- suspiciously backs off his initial zarepath + geript scumteam theory
- suspiciously confident that GK is town
- scummy jump onto GM wagon
seems scummy

can expand upon these later but a bit busy right now. Are you allowed to post the mason logs? iirc you are not.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 19 2013 04:13 GMT
#907
oh maybe you are. In the game rules, it says you cannot share PMs with outside players.

Well if you are indeed allowed to post them I see no reason why you shouldn't.
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