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If I draw Coag again.............. | ||
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BITCH. | ||
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CURSE YOU KITAAAAAAAAAA!! | ||
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On February 28 2013 01:51 prplhz wrote: do prplhz! Must not post moe than twice per cycle. Post must not exceed 2 lines in length. <3 | ||
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(Laser PeePee :D) | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + <3 | ||
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##Summon: Ver | ||
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On March 05 2013 09:28 Foolishness wrote: Pretty funny how being 1.9k away is "almost" for you. .......abashed. | ||
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MY GRAMMAR IS GOING TO BE THE MOST FUN OF ALL | ||
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THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT I WAS ACCOMMODATING WAY BEFORE THIS NEWB!! | ||
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##Vote: yamato77 OMGUS bish wut? | ||
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His early posting came across as "Look how much I hate scum guys GRRRRR!" and coupled with his perceived change of demeanor since being called down reads as overly diplomatic. Hence, the vote. @Ver Interesting if true! You leave yourself open to mafia manipulation if you're town though, but I imagine it's all part of the game to you. Judging by your post on the matter, it seems as if you're going to be pushing an agenda that punishes poor play rather than scummy play. Am I misunderstanding your intentions here? | ||
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Feel free to stop acting like a scummy little shit anytime here yamato. | ||
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I just said what is scummy - your swing from "aggressive fuck" to "whatever I'm just doin my thang" feels fake and diplomatic. And now you're in here excusing your shit when I've barely accused you. Actually do something if you think I'm wasting my time. In the meantime, you're must making me nice and cozy where I'm at. For instance, what about Crossfire did you not like? You said "at least my vote was somewhere meaningful" as if you've made some kind of contribution to the thread by placing it - why don't you explain it a little bit? | ||
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I'm reading now. | ||
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It's mediocre. For example: you never explain why those posts can only come from a scum HiroPro. I can guess (you're maybe assuming that scum's agenda is to keep people focused on Personalities rather than hunting scum) but I don't know because you don't spell out your thought process. Conversely while you don't see it, in the first post you quoted in your case, it brought up a good point that I hadn't considered until I read your case: that perhaps scum are more likely to roleplay their role as an attempt to hide and blend in. Verdict: Null. Leaning town. Not a fan of your case. | ||
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Not that it changes anything about your other observations - that just means that there will be more "nothing important going on in the thread" at least early on. So do you think scum are going to be using their personality as a crutch to blend in in this setup? I think so - I think most of them are going to focus on roleplaying, it's pretty much a thing where you have to pick too - do I make a post sounding like X or do I make a post trying to find scum? | ||
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WHO IS THIS GUY?! | ||
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slOosh on the other hand, I have played with. And I agree with BC on him. | ||
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On March 11 2013 04:18 strongandbig wrote: oh god who gave BC ace who thought that would be a good idea + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On March 10 2013 21:23 Intact wrote: Hey fellas, just reading through now ( EU timezones). I will roleplay my personality to the best of my knowledge though! No thoughts, but makes sure to reassure us that he'll be roleplaying! WHEW RIGHT?! I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT! | ||
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On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote: Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro... ##Vote: Yamato Gonna start scumhunting? Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of? What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"? | ||
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On March 11 2013 08:50 Promethelax wrote: phil is foolish? I say that to make this make sense, so I do. so why is his meta only used on day two? Ver and Sloosh you can call out right now but to foolish extra time you allow. So expand on the above, or I might lynch poor Foo' This. If you have some reason for not allowing Ver the same benefit of the doubt I'd like to hear it. | ||
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I kinda want to lynch Intact. He's been "reading" for quite a while - that's the kind of post I'd expect from scum trying to appear like they're doing something. PEdit: I think Yamato is MZ - he seemed to think he would "clear up" the Kurumi situation, and he doesn't strike me as a player who would think a mod message would clear shit up. | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote: Way to say you don't want to lynch him despite it looking obvious it was him. When you say he doesn't strike you as a player like that you subtly say that he would do that as town right, do you think he's town? You're misunderstanding me. He wouldn't claim "I can clear this shit up" and just post a mod-message regardless of his alignment. He's well-known enough as a good player that if he tried that, he would be instantly called out. As it turns out, I was mistaken and he did, in fact, put up the announcement too. The jury is still out on Yamato - although I will say that he took advantage of an opportunity to "confirm" his role by killing a townie. That makes him look worse to me...much worse indeed. He didn't even think he was scum - the only time he even says he thinks he's scum is when he says "Watch this, pro GF snipe here". | ||
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Yamato's entrance into the thread seemed fake as fuck, as I said. He then decided that maybe I'm the biggest threat to town somehow (probably because I said I was suspicious of him O.O)...except....he didn't shoot me did he? He shot Kurumi, someone who he just had the mod confirm as town. Now why would any townie do that? I'm glad Intact was replaced - not so glad that his replacement was like "LAWL AFK BYE" | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:32 prplhz wrote: This is entirely to dumb. I'm still willing to policy lynch prplhz for anyone paying super close attention to my posts. | ||
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##Vote: wherebugsgo ##Vote: yamato ##Vote: Crossfire Each has prioritized roleplaying over scumhunting in various ways, which is one of my own personal metrics this game in determining who to look at the closest. Incidentally I've made no secret of this fact. wherebugsgo seems to be almost hardclaiming Chezinu...which is fine. Except the only person he's paid any attention to is Kurumi, who is now flipped as town. Hilariously as wherebugsgo. Something tells me the closer to lynch he gets, the less like Chezinu he will start to sound and the more like wherebugsgo he will start to sound. But then again, perhaps not. yamato reacted to pressure in a very telling way at the beginning of the game: capitulation. As town yamato is fearless, and almost impassible. Yet when his methods were called into question at the very beginning of the game, rather than immediately take issue with his accuser as I'd expect a townie yamato looking for scum to do, he capitulated and called out someone else. Like "Well fine, here I did what you said." And further, rather than take my aggression for what it is - trying to gauge his alignment - he immediately goes on to ask others what they think of me. Which should indicate that he's suspicious of me. But ask yourself if you think he's really suspicious of anyone. Crossfire is another who is playing this really passive, defensive style of mafia which I find more prevalent in scum. I haven't looked at his filter closely, but what I remember seems to be roleplaying heavy and defensive. | ||
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I'll admit that I was personally null on Kurumi, but Bugs spent all his time focused on trying to discredit/lynch Kurumi. Regardless of what he thought of Kurumi, the fact that he spent all his time and energy roleplaying just to lynch someone who ended up being modconfirmed town...it's bad town play, and play that Bugs finds abhorrent as town. He's hiding behind this roleplay, and that's fucking scummy. This is still a game of Mafia, and he's not playing Mafia. He's playing "I'm Chezinu". The only people who play that form of Chezinu are fucking scum. Chezinu is also a good town player, and Bugs knows this, and would be trying to own that kind of play. This Bugs is weak - hiding behind a great man's mask. This Chezinu is an imposter. A lie. He must be purged with fire. Vote for wherebugsgo. | ||
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What's your beef with Promethelax? I'm serious, I want to know. I'm taking what he says at face value right now because I'm able to follow his thought process based on his posts - but if I should be suspicious then convince me rather than just trying to paint his rhyming as scummy. | ||
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On March 11 2013 13:04 slOosh wrote: u kids so bad a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are. ##Vote: yamato I noticed it. Just sayin. | ||
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Can't we just lynch all the scum? | ||
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You have my support brutha. | ||
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I'm gonna go ahead and mark Cross of my list because I am confident in a lynch between Bugs, Vivax and yamato. ##Unvote: Crossfire See that? That's how I can be held accountable! ^^ If I unvote the wrong guy at the wrong time, ALL EYES ON THE EYES!!! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Tip: Keep roles to ourselves. Lynching Lurkers > Posters Lynching VE for -post- No reason given. Misrepresents my argument for Yamato scum, says I didn't suspect him for it (so what..is he trying to associate himself with me? Saying he's my scumbuddy? What's the point?) Also says he's fine lynching people speaking in riddles. Attacks Cora for agreeing with SnB's case with no vote. Because apparently there can only be one scum ever. Does not vote for Cora Reassures Cora that he's not attacking him. Kurumi too. Even though... Tells the thread to still suspect Kurumi. Tells marv that mod can't be trusted. Votes someone else (Prom) for being "riddler" not scum. After the (called) shot was claimed, votes Yamato. No reason given. But seeking opposition immediately. Now, you'll notice a distinct lack of something in that list. At no time does Vivax ever imply that someone might be scum...except in the case of Kurumi, and recently Yamato. And in both of those cases, he never gives any reasoning for thinking so. Honestly, I'm kinda curious myself re: Yamato considering he was so fast to seek opposition to the lynch...but I digress. Vivax is not trying to find scum. He's posting for the sake of posting and making sure to interact with people up for lynch in a way that causes you to remember his name, but not what he did. This is scum-motivated play. wherebugsgo, Vivax, yamato | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:22 Vivax wrote: Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling. ##Vote yamato77 Anyone opposing a yamato lynch? | ||
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Lynch wherebugsgo/Vivax/yamato while I sleep. If I awaken to find some kind of bullshit shenanigans I'm gonna be pissed. And I'm talking Palmar pissed people. | ||
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Is your vote on him? I'm too lazy to look. | ||
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Vivax suspicion of Cora is a joke, and Mocsta's was too. I want you to convince me that Cora is scum. | ||
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Uuuugghhhhhhh......what are your thoughts on Bugs man? | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:26 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote: Vivax ##Vote: cDgCorazon I think I'll just piggyback Vivax, Mocsta and Marv on this one. *shrug* | ||
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Ya dude. Ya. Hang. | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:39 marvellosity wrote: well Crossfire's back, let's see how he does. I'm sure it'll be a rootin tootin jiglle-off. | ||
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On March 12 2013 00:11 Crossfire99 wrote: So like are you trying to keep yourself to a gnarly amount of votes? If so, how many votes is gnarly? Why are you asking me how many votes is sufficient? Worry about your own vote, and what you do with your own time. | ||
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On March 11 2013 16:55 Vivax wrote: Many of VE's points are wrong so I suggest you do your own research before believing them or at least force him to prove his points with actual quotes. You don't need me to write a defence to every point to see what's already there for you, just compare it with my filter and check for yourselves please. I'll mention a few things nonetheless: 1. Cora is scummy, I have said so and pushed him and opinions on him by asking many questions. → VE lied. + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 07:46 Vivax wrote: Well those are also my questions cause the way he handled S & B's post doesn't make much sense, he dodged my question now he seems to be dodging yours which is essentially the same. He kinda looks to me like noob scum, says things that look acceptable without showing real interest behind what he's saying. He doesn't pursue his own case while saying S & B's is very good but doesn't push for an Oats lynch either. 2.Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Opinions may differ but it's enough for me to lynch him he took the risk of shooting a possibly mod-confirmed townie where it should have at least gave him a benefit of the doubt to not get vigged. 3.I've mentioned one of the points I've found scummy about VE's post, so I did reply to VE (with link) although it's not the only reason: you say yamato wants to pressure lurkers just to look like contributing and I did the same but you didn't attack me for it So basically I don't know what makes me so scummy my stances are clear I don't comment on meaningless stuff and I tried to get people to post/post in a way that is understandable for town (although stopped after Prom cause I can follow him regardless and got my attention caught by Cora). That said I think it's a really bad idea to want to keep yamato alive after that stunt. Don't know if Foolishness is town yet but if he genuinely thinks I'm scum then he must not be as good as people think , he played with me as scum so he should know better. 1. You never said you think Cora is scummy. You said you thought his actions were strange, and you specifically tell him that you're not attacking him. The only question in your entire filter directed to him is "Why don't you try and convince me of a yamato lynch" which, by the way, he DID respond to....by trying to convince you of a Yamato lynch. Yet you referenced "questions you want answered" a couple of times in your filter as if you'd made a case on him that you were waiting on a response to. Here, I'll quote it so you can't call me a liar anymore. On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote: I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case. I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then? You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ? ) The bolded statements make it seem like you don't want to seem like you're attacking him. This is why I say you never attack Cora - because you never do. 2. Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Neat! Except you don't say as much ever. On March 11 2013 09:22 Vivax wrote: Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling. ##Vote yamato77 Anyone opposing a yamato lynch? How is it telling? What is it telling of? You never say his actions are scummy or look scum motivated. On March 11 2013 09:34 Vivax wrote: Well good I'll take this as you willing to lynch him. Honestly I don't understand what you're waiting for are you expecting him to argue his way out of this? He looks worse cause of this and on this he should be judged, not on what happens later that might change your opinion cause there's something else catching your attention . So yeah, we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus the scumhunt still continues although in that case the other scum will know that they won't be lynched today, but that might reveal them later on actually. Again, no reasoning given - simply "we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus". 3. He thinks yam is scummy for trying to pressure lurkers to contribute but not me. First of all, that's a gross misinterpretation of my post. I was saying that yamato's explanation for his actions were bullshit - that nothing he was doing was advocating "lurkers posting" whatsoever and he just said something to make his actions seem pro-town. Sarcasm doesn't translate well in text, it's a failing of mine. But second of all, who the fuck cares? Why would you be suspicious of me for being suspicious of someone for something YOU are doing in the first place? That doesn't even make any sense from a townie perspective. | ||
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On March 12 2013 07:36 cDgCorazon wrote: VE why are you voting for both me and my top scum read? That makes no sense... It could be worse - I could be voting only for you. O.O | ||
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On March 12 2013 07:39 cDgCorazon wrote: Fair point. But you do know that those votes contradict each other, right? *shrug* Maybe you should stop shitting up the thread worrying about my votes. | ||
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I'm having the same problem you are with Bugs. I'm sorry. | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:18 Vivax wrote: Are you nuts you just voted for crossfire out of nowhere when there's a steaming bandwagon on your scumread waiting for you. Doesn't look to me like you want him to die now does it? What's your point? | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote: you've not been paying attention to the mechanics of VE's role at all, have you Or verily, even the vote-thread apparently. Which is strange considering how badly he's clinging to this idea that I might be scum without saying it. | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:06 kitaman27 wrote: Announcement! Kurumi as Wherebugsgo has been killed by Meapak_Ziphh! The mod gave his name in the announcement. If there's a name-DT in town, if he didn't claim the shot he'd be boned. | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:41 marvellosity wrote: well if he's town, I know to never take him seriously again. so that's something. sort of. I keep saying this, but I keep expecting more from him. What's wrong with us? | ||
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Oh calling me bad for doing what you want me to do. Again. Color me surprised. | ||
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On March 12 2013 09:32 strongandbig wrote: scummy scum scum scum pick someone who you want to die and make them die, don't try and circumvent criticism of your reads by saying "well i voted for your read also" Oh so you think I'm scum now? Neat. | ||
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Yamato claimed motherfucking vanilla townie and shot Kurumi in the face. | ||
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Like, if it has to do with the circumstances, I don't get what makes Kurumi obviously townie. Why could he not have been doing exactly the same thing you're claiming Bugs is doing right now? He was presumably RPing Chezinu, you have host-speculation about Chezinu being a probable third party....I just don't understand what the difference is. Is it the amount of heat on him? Is that the determining factor that makes it so obvious to you? | ||
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On March 12 2013 10:09 strongandbig wrote: You have to ask yourself, what am I good at? I've caught scum in the past, and shot them and killed them. I've caught scum and made cases on them. But I have never caught scum, made a case, and gotten them lynched. Doesn't mean I'll stop trying. Btw ve you're rapidly earning my scum points. >.> ---------> you (That's me watching you) I DON'T CARE! I SAID NEAT EARLIER AND I MEANT IT DUDE! IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM COME AT ME AND QUIT FUCKING BEATING AROUND THE BUSH | ||
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On March 12 2013 10:13 Ver wrote: Got back from trip. Will get something in before deadline. Keep it if you still haven't read your role PM. This game is dumb enough already. | ||
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On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote: oh I will repeat that I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE thanks | ||
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On March 12 2013 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't get why when Kurumi martyrs he's obviously town to you BC, but when Bugs does it he's obviously third party. Like, if it has to do with the circumstances, I don't get what makes Kurumi obviously townie. Why could he not have been doing exactly the same thing you're claiming Bugs is doing right now? He was presumably RPing Chezinu, you have host-speculation about Chezinu being a probable third party....I just don't understand what the difference is. Is it the amount of heat on him? Is that the determining factor that makes it so obvious to you? | ||
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I bet marv knows what I'm gonna do. | ||
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But yeah you're right might as well not even try huh? I mean fuck it no one else is right? | ||
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You need only PROVE TO ME THAT YOU THINK HE'S SCUM. Your only comments are "I'm not paying attention to you unless I want to lynch you" and "Association with non-flipped Xfire" aside from you convincing me that he wasn't worth my time earlier. So I mean, it's a tall order, but not impossible. | ||
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Scenarios I can envision scum switching onto townVivax are few. Primarily among them though, to save scum who are on the block otherwise. Obviously not Bugs, but maybe one of Yamato/Crossfire. I unvoted Crossfire because he was here and willing to lynch Vivax, and Yamato because his recent posting has not been as scummy as his earlier posting. However, that leaves the question: which one and which switchers. The question I'm interested in answering is: are there scum between Vivax, Yamato and Crossfire. This is the question I intend to answer overnight. | ||
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Bugs was a third party who decided that roleplaying isn't fun enough to offset how boring and hard it is to keep from getting lynched, so he just threw his arms up and gave the fuck up. There's a marked difference between the two scenarios. | ||
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On March 12 2013 23:14 austinmcc wrote: Okay, read through what I've missed once. WHAT IS GOING ON!? I am not mayor. Boo. Vivax and marv are shitting up the thread. Boo. Vivax, you looked bad yesterday, but in a way that made me feel townie on you. I'm used to seeing you take crap on D1 as town, and it reminded me of games where that's happened. But all this crap with you and foolishness and marv is ridiculous. I'm going to throw away the bit where you didn't read posts, apparently, but made reads anyway. The part where you did not read posts, from a guy who doesn't have a lot of posts, but made reads anyway. One more time. The part of your read on Foolishness, the guy who hasn't been tremendously active, where you based your read on what you thought his posts might have said, but who cares because you don't need to read them. Instead, what is this? Within the last 5-10 pages, you (see above) based your read on Foolishness off what you thought his posts might have said. And now you're doing the same friggin thing. "I think Foolishness's initial post was this" when Foolishness said Foolishness - "I skimmed the thread and made an accusation that I realized was wrong when I went back and looked." Vivax - "I think Foolishness was trying to fish for reactions and he caught these two people." You always look scummy, but this is just straight out making stuff up and not listening to reason when you're clearly wrong. I remember you playing/looking scummy as town, but not outright just doing stuff like this. Stuck believing that this is real scumminess from you, and not the way you look as town. This is crap. In Bureaucracy, Foolishness was afk for a while, got crap for not making any cases or doing anything, came back and made a big case on Bill Murray, and throughout his time alive added some minor suspicions on BH and Palmar. BH and Palmar were both mafia, BM wasn't. Also, Foolishness was mafia. Basically, out of his mafia reads, 2/3 were right, and he was the head of the whole mafia. His alignment should absolutely not be predicated on whether his reads are good or not. Quoted because it's important, bolded for emphasis. | ||
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Possible town motivations: roleplaying personality? Hiding role? | ||
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FACTOR THAT IN SCUM! I'M GOING TO DECIDE EVERY FUCKING LYNCH | ||
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On March 12 2013 07:40 Vivax wrote: Well he was refusing to answer cause he was afraid of scum making a case on him if he pushed his reads so I acted nice and he still didn't push them. Easier to get something useful out of the guy if he doesn't think I think he's scum but I'm not so good at that. 2. I explained later why yamato's actions are scummy, his choice of target sucked and was a comfortable target for scum, as you see no one except for a few are blaming yamato for Kurumi's death, so it was a successful shot for him. 3. Okay. VE you wanted to lynch yamato now you sound like you don't since you disagree on me thinking the shot was scummy what's up? UH OH VIVAX HURRY THINK OF SOME REASON WHY YOUR READ OF CORA HAS CHANGED BRO | ||
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Anyway, thanks for your cooperation. I'm gonna get ready for work and think. Does anyone need anything from me? My time on this game will be focused tonight on answering the question I posed ~12 hours ago, so if you want response from me now is the best time. | ||
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My problem with yamato has always been the fact that I wasn't certain he was town really fast. Look at the scumQT in Nomination: in spite of slOosh and some other townie, I advised AGAINST going after yamato because he was, by my estimation, the greenest player in the game. Granted, I knew he was town, but based on what I saw in the thread, I knew that if he were put under pressure, he would bring the fucking pain...and he did...to my chagrin. But this game I have had no such certainty of his alignment. I don't know how much of that has to do with roleplaying, or the circumstances in the game, but that's the core of my problem with Yamato this game: he's not obviously town to me. | ||
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But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about? | ||
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On March 13 2013 02:35 marvellosity wrote: Completely torn. Remember when he was so certain you were mafia in NMM2 that he actually misrepresented your posts coming up to deadline to ensure your lynch? It was so tunnelled and braindead (sorry slOosh) but he was town there. It's like what Hiro just asked really. If slOosh is only gonna talk about yamato, that's obviously a problem. Conversely, my utter manipulation of him in Nom may be factoring into his play too if he's town. :/ Yeah I agree...so don't lynch tomorrow then is basically where slOosh stands for me. If he refuses to contribute anything but a yamato tunnel tomorrow, feel free to open fire or lynch D3. Agreed? | ||
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On March 13 2013 02:45 marvellosity wrote: Whose Line Is It Anyway - town Themed Mafia - mafia MTG 2 - mafia the main reason I (we? everyone?) didn't lynch him was because his last minute pop in to the thread seemed genuine. Now I'm not so sure about that at all. This describes my feelings too. I've had lingering doubts about Crossfire based on how he was roleplaying early on - then he came back and it looked like he was going to contribute, but then roleplayed some more. Then he came back and was suprsrsmode - and he was on the block. Like, everyone has a vested interest in not getting lynched, but it just seems to me that we wouldn't have been in a position where Xfire was up for lynch if he'd played the way he was playing at lynch time like, all day. I'm gonna go peruse those games, let me know your thoughts on his meta (since you seem to be familiar already) while I'm gone. | ||
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Ver should be considered town Imo. Whatever that's worth. | ||
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On March 13 2013 04:39 Acrofales wrote: Can you expand the meta read a bit? I still think it's a scum cop-out saying "guys, I cannot be held accountable for my shit". If it was a trap, he should have come back and sprung it. He didn't. The post was just an excuse to screw around, which is exactly what he has done. Sure. Ver is a professional Starcraft player. Ver is a mafia enthusiast and, in general, a really nice guy. Ver has a deep respect for the rules of games, and he would never do anything that would betray the spirit of a game. He hosted the first Personality, so he knows the depth of thought that was put into making the roles. And he knows that playing against one's win condition is explicitly against the rules of Mafia. Therefor, Ver is lying about not reading his role PM. He knows who he is supposed to be, and he knows what team he is playing for. It becomes a question of whether you think he'd lie about it as scum or town. You think scum, I think not. Hopefully he'll tell us one way or another in the hours to come, but I don't think he's a good lynch for tomorrow in any case. | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:18 supersoft wrote: I think I know VEs personality and alignment :-D Unless you're basing the personality bit off my early game, I quit roleplaying my role about halfway through D1. Earlier really. | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:24 Vivax wrote: Well a good start to know if he's telling the truth is to find out why he lied but apparently you aren't interested for reasons I can only imagine We'll find out the truth tomorrow. He was under no pressure to claim, so it reads as forced by mods - which he's also confirming in the thread, which I'll admit is odd. It just doesn't matter right now. | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote: yes. you could well be right. At least i haven't got good reasons to call him town, and normally a town-BC has given me those reasons by now. I agree with this. prplhz I think you may be right too - there's just too little to go on right now. Ver isn't, strictly speaking, a bad target...it's just that, you're right...his reasoning is contradictory and a little too selective for my taste. Do you think he's the best lynch tomorrow? You haven't commented on current discussions at all (which I'm aware is kinda your speed) do you think BC is a better lynch than like...Xfire? Vivax? Foolishness? | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:32 Vivax wrote: There is no bile from my side just lots of questions and persuasion attempts, also my post/content ratio is bigger than other's. I know however who you're on good terms with so I understand you're used to talking smack about others behind people's backs. What does this even mean LMAO | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:51 prplhz wrote: I don't know about Foolishness because I don't fully get the "he lied to smear me" point (I don't see how it's worth it if it's conscious, and I don't see it as a "slip". I'd rather lynch BloodyC0bbler as it is right now. It's more of a "he lied to cop out of explaining his read on marv" but yeah, I get what you're saying. We'll see what happens this night. | ||
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On March 13 2013 06:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also the case on me by prpl makes me laugh. Try harder mr try hard. Austin also super baddy. Why would bc change his posting style in a game with altered personalities. Likely because hes playing his personality. Themed games dont equal normal. Nor does the fact I have less time now to actively play. However good try captain try hard 2. -.- Don't poke people for trying BC. | ||
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No one is arguing that his role makes him town - Acro is saying that his USE of the role makes him town. That's all we can ever go on. | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:15 Acrofales wrote: I don't buy that scum is paranoid enough to live in permanent fear of role/name cops. Scum fake claim in closed themed games all the time. Any role/name cop could catch them out, yet I've only seen it happen ONCE (my own check on Toad in CT). Well to be fair, his role PM may very well say that his name will be revealed with the shot announcement. It's not a thing where he's "in constant fear" of a name-cop but if that's in his PM and knows it's coming, obviously fear of the name-cop is introduced. | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:30 marvellosity wrote: you expect me, as purely an observer, to make a massive effort to determine what your posts are pushing when you're trolling, as opposed to when I'm actually in a game and you're not trolling? How can you not see how absurd this is? Where did I say I could pin you 100% Day 1? I never said that, why are you even saying I did? Why are people constantly misrepresenting what I say this game? I asked this as well. | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote: yes. you could well be right. At least i haven't got good reasons to call him town, and normally a town-BC has given me those reasons by now. I think this is the post he's referring to. It doesn't read like "LOL BC so easy to read" to me...more like "Usually as town BC will have given me reasons to think he's town, and this game there's nothing like that" | ||
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On March 13 2013 06:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Its prpl and austin. Both are experienced enough to know better. Also, marv has outright lied about how he garners reads on me. As he was unsure of my alignment in LX and was basing my alignment on if I got shot n1 or not. Given his tried and true method is not neccesarily in play this game given that there are so many big names to shoot him outright saying I have a tell for him d1 is an outright lie. Now the only reason I mention it is he made a huge deal of foolishness lying yet does it himself. Hypocritical actions make BC sad. Uh ohhhhh......so it WAS "him outright saying" to "well the connotation was there" | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Yes, but I was also lynched day 1 no? Pretty sure I'm allowed to attempt risky gambles like that given i was attempting to save town from being retarded. You weren't trying to save town from shit you were trying to survive because you were third party LMAO Don't get me wrong town was being retarded...but come on man.... | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:57 Acrofales wrote: So it's a useless throwaway list with reads that are all over the map? Yeah. That's what I got from that too. Me too. Watch I'll make a meaningless list too. It should have a decent mix too. Ver/Foolishness/BC/Supersoft/prplhz/Acrofales/Prom/marv/Vivax/Yamato Scum are hiding in that list somewhere. SOMEWHERE among half the players, the scum are hiding. Somewhere. | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:04 marvellosity wrote: the fact you don't include yourself in that list is a MASSIVE scumtell! !! !!!!! :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OH DANG put me in there betweeeeennnn......BC and SuperSoft. *nodnod* | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:42 VisceraEyes wrote: You're not a leader either you're a lurker. What's your point? I'm a much more attractive NK than you tonight because you're an easy "mislynch" if you're town, and I'm not only a claimed/mod-confirmed PR, but everyone thinks I'm town. SS YOU SO HIGH BRO GIMME SOME O THAT SHIT | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:58 marvellosity wrote: If only you could play the game like you're genuinely invested and not randomly lie for no good reason. I'm even doubting that you're the great scumhunter and townie of legend. What I find hilarious is how he used the fact that he always reads you as scum to push this idea that you must be scum, but is trying to use the fact that you're so easy to read as town as evidence that you must be scum. Something doesn't add up here... | ||
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On March 13 2013 09:33 Foolishness wrote: Do people still want to kill crossfire? I have a feeling that reading the thread will answer this question <3 | ||
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On March 13 2013 10:23 Foolishness wrote: From the General Guide to Mafia (keep in mind this is in the town section): You honestly think I'm asking a question to something I don't know? tsk tsk! Gotta read between the lines Hmmm....you're asking ME if I honestly think you're asking a question to something you don't know? Does the very act of asking the question indicate an ignorance of the answer? Does the very act of asking not indicate a desire to possess the answer? Like it's really really easy to say you have a plan after you're called out. That's all I'm saying. Well, that's not ALL I'm saying, if you're reading between the lines...but you catch my drift. | ||
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Luckily though, through the magic of townie play, you're all aware of both whom I find suspicious AND why, so a will post isn't even necessary EVEN IF I die! KALLOH KALLAY! To answer the question I posed, I'm confident that yes, there are scum inside of Yamato, Crossfire and Vivax. I think yamato is townie - the other two just flip a coin and lynch one. That's my opinion. You guys need to force BC/Foolish/Ver to contribute more than they have been. All of them, BC included, are guilty of calling people scum with little reasoning. It's not enough that they have an opinion - they have to explain their opinion so everyone can understand in order for it to be effective - and they're ALL capable. marv is carrying this game for town, and if he's scum you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Acro looking better now though. Mocsta is (?) because I now know he's capable of stellar scum play so he's on my "watch carefully" list. Everything SEEMS to be in order so far, but be ever vigilant. | ||
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