Personality Mafia 2

On March 05 2013 07:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also holy shit I almost have 10k posts.

On March 07 2013 07:45 Stutters695 wrote:
Any start date works for me. Stoked for this.

On March 11 2013 03:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


simple. Ive been around longer than basically everyone thus everyone is unskilled newbie compared to me. Given that nothing is going on and based on years of observation and conversation I know ver at this point should have more than a fluff post and sloosh only has a /in post. His posting decreases substantially to the point of non existence only when non town.

Given that (for now as the day is less than 24 hours in length) both these players meet meta reasons for being scum they are scum. When they change this in a way that I believe isn't total bullshit then I might revisit my opinion.

On March 11 2013 08:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


phils alignment is always confirmed by day 2. Why waste time analyzing a player who obviously gives himself away.

On March 11 2013 09:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
You'll get that from BC regardless of his alignment, but yeah I don't want to lynch him either.

I kinda want to lynch Intact. He's been "reading" for quite a while - that's the kind of post I'd expect from scum trying to appear like they're doing something.

PEdit: I think Yamato is MZ - he seemed to think he would "clear up" the Kurumi situation, and he doesn't strike me as a player who would think a mod message would clear shit up.

On March 11 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
The reveal and shot were my role

I will not apologize for giving a martyr his death.

On March 11 2013 23:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
You can call it whatever you want after the lynch bro in the obsQT. Ain't havin it in my town dude.

On March 11 2013 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the reason I stated in my post originally voting for him - because I hadn't filtered him.

On March 12 2013 00:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why do you feel like you get to tell me what to do?

##Vote: Dandel Ion

On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:


I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen.

I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple.

On March 11 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
The reveal and shot were my role

I will not apologize for giving a martyr his death.

On March 11 2013 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:


You're misunderstanding me. He wouldn't claim "I can clear this shit up" and just post a mod-message regardless of his alignment. He's well-known enough as a good player that if he tried that, he would be instantly called out.

As it turns out, I was mistaken and he did, in fact, put up the announcement too.

The jury is still out on Yamato - although I will say that he took advantage of an opportunity to "confirm" his role by killing a townie. That makes him look worse to me...much worse indeed. He didn't even think he was scum - the only time he even says he thinks he's scum is when he says "Watch this, pro GF snipe here".

On March 12 2013 07:39 VisceraEyes wrote:


It could be worse - I could be voting only for you. O.O

On March 12 2013 08:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Except...I never really hopped off Bugs did I Vivax? Nor give any indication that I don't want him to die. Funny, that.

On March 12 2013 08:18 Vivax wrote:


Are you nuts you just voted for crossfire out of nowhere when there's a steaming bandwagon on your scumread waiting for you.

Doesn't look to me like you want him to die now does it?

You are wherebugsgo, Jack of all mafia trades! Unfortunately for you, you seem to have rolled town. Once per cycle, you must submit one of the following actions. You cannot select the same action twice. The following cycle you will receive a reward for your scummy ways based on your selection.

1) Frame target player to return the role and alignment of your choice.
2) Silence target player from posting in the thread for the first 24 hours of the day cycle.
3) Cover target player's alignment from being revealed during an alignment check or death through night hit. You cannot cover yourself.
4) Roleblock target player.
5) Pardon target player during the day cycle, negating all votes against that player. You cannot pardon yourself.

You win with town.

Hidden rewards:
1) Frame -> Role cop target player
2) Silence -> Mason target player for the first 24 hours
3) Cover -> Godfather
4) Roleblock -> Jail target player
5) Pardon -> Unlynchable for 1 cycle

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 12 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am. And Cora. And Crossfire.

On March 12 2013 09:56 strongandbig wrote:
If I was a vanilla townie I would be shooting wbg tonight.

On March 12 2013 10:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's better than this. :/

On March 12 2013 11:37 marvellosity wrote:


apparently i wasn't even explicit enough according to kita. whatever.

On March 12 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote:
Well I think Foolish' initial post was a way of fishing for reactions since I'm subject to mislynches and scum pushing me and townies failing to read me, he had basically given zero reasoning for doing what he did and it lured two suspicious sheeps:
VE and Oats quickly.

On March 12 2013 16:13 Foolishness wrote:
I was gone and made an accusation based on what I skimmed through the thread at the time. Then when I came back to push the case further I realized I was wrong when I analyzed him. Which should be obvious given that I gave the proof.

On March 12 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote:
It's pretty scummy you are willing to risk one of the strongest town players to get NKd without even knowing what yamato's or my alignment is (and thus the validity of Foolishness' reads).

1. You never said you think Cora is scummy. You said you thought his actions were strange, and you specifically tell him that you're not attacking him. The only question in your entire filter directed to him is "Why don't you try and convince me of a yamato lynch" which, by the way, he DID respond to....by trying to convince you of a Yamato lynch. Yet you referenced "questions you want answered" a couple of times in your filter as if you'd made a case on him that you were waiting on a response to. Here, I'll quote it so you can't call me a liar anymore.

On March 13 2013 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same. Although to be fair, it's not hard to look good when you've got this Foolish/Vivax thing going on.

But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about?

On March 13 2013 02:43 HiroPro wrote:


He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team.

On March 13 2013 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Ver is lying about not reading his role. That is an active decision to play against your win con, and Ver doesn't strike me as that sort of player from my limited experience with him. He also doesn't strike me as the type of scum player who would draw attention to himself by lying in such a manner. Conversely, Ver strikes me as EXACTLY the kind of town player who would lie about reading his Role PM.

Ver should be considered town Imo. Whatever that's worth.

On March 13 2013 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's not a confirmed anything we don't even know if he's telling the truth about his role. I'm not interested in anyone I think is town claiming anything for scum to use. If you want to reveal your role go ahead - we're lynching you if you don't die to town holy righteous fury tonight.

On March 13 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
I think that BloodyC0bbler is scum.

filter

BloodyC0bbler starts out by jokingly pushing Ver and slOosh though it turns out that he is being very serious about this. This is similar to his opening post from Storm Mafia where he was scum. Nothing in PTP3, LVIII, Liquid City, LVI, L, all town games and in all games he got down to business.

His push on Ver is purely based on how Ver is not around and while BloodyC0bbler drops slOosh he keeps his Ver scum read right up until now. He has been told that Ver said before the game that he wouldn't have time before Monday but this doesn't stop BloodyC0bbler, even though BloodyC0bbler was lynched by a rampant town in his last game when he was in a similar situation to Ver's, having warned the thread about his projected activity but still getting lynched for it. Another really curious thing about the Ver push is this post. It makes no sense at all, because they are experienced they should have written an apology? But an apology (or the lack thereof) has no bearing on alignment at all, it is not hard to write an apology, it just seems too convinient for BloodyC0bbler to use this bad logic to legitimize his push.

This Ver push just seems very unlike BloodyC0bbler from his town games. While he does have early reads such as in PTP3 where he had an early Kurumi scum read, he interacts with the thread and he constantly evolves his reads. In a town game where he says in his fourth post that Kurumi is obviously scum, he still has a lot of other opinions and ends up voting differently. He's constantly reevaluating but there's nothing of that in this game.

How BloodyC0bbler is acting on D1 in general is curious. BloodyC0bbler is a guy who has a certain opinion of himself. Look at this post where he says that no one can say that he has bad D1 reads because of the list he made. Look at this post where he claims to be one of the most experienced players with the ability to lead. This is in a game with Foolishness, sandroba, Palmar and many other really good players but he still thinks he's the best choice for mayor. He has high thought of himself but he doesn't show that at all in this game, he's actually just sitting back and hoping that Ver will lynch himself.

About this very light pushing of Ver, even though he doesn't want to lynch wherebugsgo his activity becomes horrible up until the lynch. The last and biggest thing he does related to the lynch is this post:



"Its not so much policy as meta", does BloodyC0bbler even know himself why he is lynching Ver? And notice why he wants to lynch yamato77, it's not because he is scum but because he has played "obviously anti town". This is true but that's absolutely no reason to lynch him, this is no reason in itself to think that he is scum.

Even when I ask him what he meant with his decafchicken comment he doesn't use that in any way to influence the lynch. There's no "decafchicken was lynched because of dumb coincidence and we shouldn't repeat that here, lets lynch Ver because I have played 50 games with him and my D1 reads are awesome", he's just answering my dumb and largely irrelevant question.

Anyway, I really think that BloodyC0bbler is scum. How you guys feel about it?

On March 13 2013 05:26 Acrofales wrote:
This thread grows 2 pages for every 1 I read. Can we please kill Vivax just to stop the rampant growth of bile in this game?

On March 13 2013 07:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Again. Issue is if there is anyone in the game that reveals peoples personalities. In a game such as this there could very well be. For all we know he is forced to claim in some way (via pro gf snipe comment or the like) to give a hint as to his role.

Hitting a heavy hitter still makes no sense as it outs a scum role day 1. If he were to use it and missfire day 2 or 3 on someone the thread considered mafia then he'd get away scott free, but not day 1.

On March 13 2013 07:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


disagree. Even as trolling as a smurf I still pushed my own reads and when I had to broke my roleplay. Posting style can change, major pattern didnt. I don't need to make stupidly large posts to state my opinions. People may listen to them more then but if I don't feel like posting large blocks of texts or yelling at people for 20 pages i'm not going to.

I have not done anything this game that would make it hard to determine my alignment if you were able to actually pin me 100% day 1.

On March 13 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
I think that BloodyC0bbler is scum.

filter

BloodyC0bbler starts out by jokingly pushing Ver and slOosh though it turns out that he is being very serious about this. This is similar to his opening post from Storm Mafia where he was scum. Nothing in PTP3, LVIII, Liquid City, LVI, L, all town games and in all games he got down to business.

His push on Ver is purely based on how Ver is not around and while BloodyC0bbler drops slOosh he keeps his Ver scum read right up until now. He has been told that Ver said before the game that he wouldn't have time before Monday but this doesn't stop BloodyC0bbler, even though BloodyC0bbler was lynched by a rampant town in his last game when he was in a similar situation to Ver's, having warned the thread about his projected activity but still getting lynched for it. Another really curious thing about the Ver push is this post. It makes no sense at all, because they are experienced they should have written an apology? But an apology (or the lack thereof) has no bearing on alignment at all, it is not hard to write an apology, it just seems too convinient for BloodyC0bbler to use this bad logic to legitimize his push.

This Ver push just seems very unlike BloodyC0bbler from his town games. While he does have early reads such as in PTP3 where he had an early Kurumi scum read, he interacts with the thread and he constantly evolves his reads. In a town game where he says in his fourth post that Kurumi is obviously scum, he still has a lot of other opinions and ends up voting differently. He's constantly reevaluating but there's nothing of that in this game.

How BloodyC0bbler is acting on D1 in general is curious. BloodyC0bbler is a guy who has a certain opinion of himself. Look at this post where he says that no one can say that he has bad D1 reads because of the list he made. Look at this post where he claims to be one of the most experienced players with the ability to lead. This is in a game with Foolishness, sandroba, Palmar and many other really good players but he still thinks he's the best choice for mayor. He has high thought of himself but he doesn't show that at all in this game, he's actually just sitting back and hoping that Ver will lynch himself.

About this very light pushing of Ver, even though he doesn't want to lynch wherebugsgo his activity becomes horrible up until the lynch. The last and biggest thing he does related to the lynch is this post:



"Its not so much policy as meta", does BloodyC0bbler even know himself why he is lynching Ver? And notice why he wants to lynch yamato77, it's not because he is scum but because he has played "obviously anti town". This is true but that's absolutely no reason to lynch him, this is no reason in itself to think that he is scum.

Even when I ask him what he meant with his decafchicken comment he doesn't use that in any way to influence the lynch. There's no "decafchicken was lynched because of dumb coincidence and we shouldn't repeat that here, lets lynch Ver because I have played 50 games with him and my D1 reads are awesome", he's just answering my dumb and largely irrelevant question.

Anyway, I really think that BloodyC0bbler is scum. How you guys feel about it?

On March 13 2013 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:

-.-

Don't poke people for trying BC.

On March 13 2013 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
you did also repeatedly call him mafia and fakeclaim DT to call him mafia, BC.

On March 13 2013 07:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


hes got some of my town reads some of my mafia reads.

Seems decent mixed list tbh

On March 13 2013 08:02 VisceraEyes wrote:


Me too. Watch I'll make a meaningless list too. It should have a decent mix too.

Ver/Foolishness/BC/Supersoft/prplhz/Acrofales/Prom/marv/Vivax/Yamato

Scum are hiding in that list somewhere. SOMEWHERE among half the players, the scum are hiding. Somewhere.

On March 13 2013 08:53 Foolishness wrote:
If only marvellosity could play every game like Fivetouch.

I'm even doubting myself that they are the same person.

On January 09 2012 15:49 Incognito wrote:


You should not post without a plan or agenda.