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yamato77
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I do not trust that flip whatsoever | ||
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I'm going to look at this game again and see what I can gleam | ||
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Maybe scum has a blanket death-miller thing activated by Cora's lynch or something? Or maybe Foolish was town, and we really are fucked. | ||
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I'm not sure what's going on right now, or what to trust. I don't like this Death Miller even being in the game at all, it makes me mistrust a lot of things I would rather just trust. maybe tomorrow I'll put in some effort. | ||
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yamato77
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I'm attempting to figure the game out, and what I need to do now is wait and see what other people do in reaction to the night post. | ||
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I'm trying to find a new bearing on this game, because my previous one was completely fucking annihilated with the Foolish flip. | ||
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Vivax - Town "meta" is to be spammy and dumb as he is this game, but it's ridiculous that he's continued to be confirmed against me the whole game. Perhaps it is possible he is town and this stupid, even likely. It's always difficult to discern his alignment, but if Foolish is actually town then he looks considerably better, because I look like scum to even the best TL town player in history. Crossfire99 - Useless and lurky. Objectively, the dude is probably mafia. No reason for me to think he's town whatsoever. wherebugsgo as Chezinu, lynched day one - third party, lynch was completely uninformative. risk.nuke - shows some mild curiosity at times, but is overall uninvolved in this mess of a game. I don't see any emotion in that filter at all. Compare to his posting in Fruity to accurately read his alignment HiroPro - maintains suspicions on lynchbait stutters throughout the game, but again is another player who is overall quite uninvolved and MIGHT be mafia. the more I look at this list, the more I see there's a lot of these. prplhz - as far as meta is concerned, his overall trollish and snipey attitude leads me to believe he might be mafia. As town in Nomination, he did actually try and seem involved. I think he's likely scum, given his low profile. With zero pressure, he has produced less than nothing, which is absurd. marvellosity - the absolute hardest player for me to read this game, especially without involving flips. While he seems emotionally involved, he was DEAD FUCKING WRONG, and spammed away 30+ pages of filter being wrong. Aside from his tunnel of Foolish, I don't know anything about what this dude thinks of the game. I think there is a chance he is mafia, simply because oif how hard he tunneled and how much he refused to get off it. Lynching marv is difficult business, though, so I don't know what to say there. VisceraEyes as prplhz, killed night one - had similar reads to mine at death, and was wrong on quite a few. Will reread to see if there's stuff he noticed that I missed. Intact replaced by Dandel Ion - dead but largely lurky anyway. role usage would have been nice to know. check filter for crumbs austinmcc - lots of lengthy analyses, and has played the most pro-town of anyone in the game. no reason to suspect him. BloodyC0bbler as RebirthOfLegend, killed night one - suspected me, and what else? will have to review. Kurumi as wherebugsgo, killed day one - aksjdfaslfjkdghjkdsfgLSKJDGHFUYGASDFGKAHDSFG Oatsmaster - blates town. no fucking way he's mafia and still posting Stutters695 - who the fuck knows. probably town, given past games. strongandbig - same as VE. Similar reads to mine, and was wrong. will review slOosh - tunneled me for a long time, which is not good. will review and compare to nomination Foolishness - if the flips is true, I might have to consider killing marv. ugh. Mocsta - might be mafia, due to his very low involvement. however, he is still playing the game, so i can't just nail him yet iamperfection - similar to dandel, IMO. Ver replaced by DarthPunk - one case is on lynchbait. ugh. fuck replacements. Acrofales - Probably town. right about Cora and had his doubts about Foolish, yet still consented to killing him. mafia have no reason to change their opinion like that on a town player. cDgCorazon as Palmar, lynched day two - DEATH MILLER, because his tunnel of me was not in line with town Corazon rationality. Promethelax - me and him think the fucking same. thinks marv is town, so we'll see. yamato77 - peeps be wanting to lynch me for my lazy play this game, I understand. I HATE HUGE GAMES. supersoft as syllogism, killed night one - came around to scum Fool/town me/town marv. another point in the marv = town column All in all, there are a few people posting a lot and a lot posting almost nothing. Something tells me there is 1 or two active scum at most and the rest lurkers. If I had to guess: HIRO/PRPLHZ/CROSS AND... Either Marv or Vivax, but probably marv at this point. | ||
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ALWAYS. | ||
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Fuck me. On March 11 2013 11:59 marvellosity wrote: That just means yamato is a tit, doesn't mean he's mafia. Not worth gambling on today anyway. Every one of Corazon's posts are atrocious. His "joke" about balancing the game, his stance on yamato and Oats, his dumb anger. I might vote him for now and see how it goes. ##Vote: cDgCorazon Town Marv has balls, no? Why does this Marv have no balls? Why does this Marv say stuff like "we'll see how it goes" when talking about who he wants to lynch? Just, fuck that. He does it more than once, too: On March 12 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote: Let's give this a go actually. ##Vote: Stutters WTF MARV, WHY?! On March 12 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote: give me your advice, VE. you've played with bugs for good and for bad. should i kill crossfire or bugs? Yet another weak vote. Totally ball-less. On March 11 2013 12:00 marvellosity wrote: also I agree that Stutters looks pretty terrible. I gave up reading Crossfire's filter because it was too painful. These one-liner comments on people get really old after a while. He gives his consent many times, or sometimes his curiosity, to lynch many people who are all lurky and easy to lynch, and all of it comes on day 1. On March 11 2013 12:15 marvellosity wrote: thats interesting on yamato, VE. i'll take another look at him tomorrow On March 12 2013 03:10 marvellosity wrote: maybe. i'm willing to wait a while to see what he has to say though. bugs on the other hand has so far wanted to kill a mod-confirmed townie and done jack shit since. On March 12 2013 08:05 marvellosity wrote: I could happily vote for Crossfire. What's keeping you back on bugs? Is it just that he's a vet? On March 12 2013 11:47 marvellosity wrote: so how about dat Vivax lynch? On March 11 2013 23:20 marvellosity wrote: There's 4 people in orange on my spreadsheet currently: bugs, corazon, stutters, prplhz. I'm going to make myself read Crossfire's and bugs' filters in the next couple of hours. The list even grows at times, in line with thread sentiment about lynching people. On March 12 2013 01:25 marvellosity wrote: Hiro's not really on my radar at the moment. He's not done anything to massively convince me he's town, but nothing to particularly make me think he's mafia either. He had the same reaction as I did to kita's announcement; without further evidence there is extremely little point lynching someone the host has announced as town. There are simply way more other viable targets - xfire, sloosh, prplhz, Stutters, corazon, bugs - for me to worry about Hiro right now. At times he makes posts longer than one-line when giving his read, but it is mostly after noting they are mafia and seeing thread sentiment. Also, they contain low amounts of analysis. EX: On March 11 2013 23:36 marvellosity wrote: Alright that sounds fine. Crossfire's filter was mercifully shorter than I thought and is completely awful. Indeed, he's done nothing. And yet he's happy to tell yamato he's done nothing: This post says literally nothing at all, except that he's basically defending Kurumi: And again, defending Kurumi: Crossfire's done nothing but he's done nothing in a way where his only limited contributions are a defence of Kurumi. He's decided not to use ANY of his time whatsoever to look for mafia. Not sure why you unvoted this guy VE :p On March 12 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote: because there are a lot of viable targets. and what you said about Stutters simply isn't true. This post is notable for two things. One is what I said before, that he is largely a quote-machine with low-analysis. Another is that he seems intent on keeping this group of players he mentioned before firmly within a circle of him to lynch into, in line with the general thread sentiment. How he goes about deciphering thread sentiment, I will go into later. On March 12 2013 02:08 marvellosity wrote: I've been sufficiently dickish, have I? ^^ This post contains another thing I find odd, which is Marv pushing his own towniness. He does this as either alignment, but he seems to do it here in a way that AFFIRMS AND ENCOURAGES this behavior instead of his normal passive comments about how townie he looks. Marv knows when he looks town or not as town, and makes judgements. This quote, though, is not that, and is something I noticed more than once. On March 12 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote: It feels like you're not reading the thread at all. how is this 'unnaturally sure' yamato is town? Hello? This post is strange. He argued for the better part of the day that I was not mafia, but here he seems to suggest that he isn't sure that I am town. It also shows that he is UNWILLING TO TAKE ANY REAL STANCES about people. Look at all the posts I have quoted so far from day 1. How many times does Marv take a stance and make a definitive read? Fucking zero. He's just kinda winging it with thread sentiment. This is how Marv played the WHOLE FUCKING DAY 1 LYNCH. So how does he want to decide on the lynch? Sheep veteran players. On March 12 2013 06:00 marvellosity wrote: All of those you mention. I assume VE will come in later and post as is his usual schedule, but the rest fo them have been worse than useless. supersoft too, he's not helping provide any direction when I know he can. He's been in the thread, why isn't he helping me arrive at a good lynch here? This particular attitude is not one I would expect from a town Marvellosity. He's continually refusing to take hard stances on people, and is waiting for players who we now know to be town to post and give him an inkling of where to go with his vote. That does not sound like town Marvellosity. So that is basically all Marv did of importance day 1. As I asked before, where did his balls go? Where are his reads? He gives consent to lynch people, but where are his real stances? It seems difficult to tell. It doesn't look like he took ANY, even with his vote. He wanted to sheep strong townies who subsequently died. This is disturbing. So what's the counter-argument here? OH I KNOW, HE TOOK A STAND NIGHT 1 AGAINST FOOLISH: On March 12 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote: i have no idea why people are listening to foolish at all this game. he outried lied to put suspicion on me (said he was always suspicious of me when we played together), THEN lied again when i pulled him up (said we'd played town once), and THEN corrected his story once again to that he found me suspicious in the game I smurfed (LIX), which for the uneducated was the game I tunnelled 2 mafia Day 1, got elected and lynched a mafia, then lynched mafia every day It's piles upon piles of lies as an excuse to call me suspicious, and it's all fucking bullshit. He still hasn't explained WHY HE WOULD LIE ABOUT IT in order to call me suspicious. Here is the beginning of the period of time I call the Foolish Tunnel. Get it? He tunneled foolish, and it was... Oh, nevermind. POINT BEING, this tunnel was based on very little aside from a reaction to Foolish calling Marvellosity mafia for reasons he seemed to think were lies. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't, but the important thing to note here is that his initial reaction to being accused is the first real emotion witnessed out of Marv this whole game, and basically the only thing he's taken a real stance on. On March 14 2013 01:16 marvellosity wrote: supersoft - should we lynch Vivax? Day 2, and he's still appealing to the town vets, despite his earlier proclamation: On March 13 2013 12:57 marvellosity wrote: it's cora or the fool today. not seeing anything else to persuade me otherwise. Shame. And then there's these consecutive gems: On March 14 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote: I am paranoid as shit about yamato's disappearance though On March 14 2013 06:16 marvellosity wrote: Foolishness, in all seriousness, if you can make a serious case on yamato I'm all ears. Gogo. Marv, you lied. This is you setting up to lynch me, and you know it. Total bullshit, considering what you've said about myself/Foolish this game. I knew I noticed something important when I noted this shit. On March 14 2013 22:36 marvellosity wrote: no, because every time i play in a game with Vivax it literally diminishes my intelligence, and it's deeply depressing. This post day 2 unveils another thing about Marv's play this game that is abhorrent, which is his continual arguing with Vivax. WHEN TOLD THIS IS FUCKING DUMB AS SHIT, HE CONTINUES TO DO SO, BUT I KNOW HE KNOWS BETTER: He's continuing to argue with Vivax intentionally, which is obviously mafia motivated. His spewing on about Foolish/Vivax is LEGENDARY, yet when I try to talk about other stuff, he gives nothing worthwhile: On March 14 2013 23:36 marvellosity wrote: I linked, just two pages ago, my post I made about Corazon's mentality. I also said quite a lot of things about him Day 1. Nothing changed in that regard. Talking about Foolish is NOT association stuff. A townie doesn't avoid big issues, that's the point. On March 14 2013 23:40 marvellosity wrote: Vivax is still [red]Vivax!. Because he's fucking insane. He seems to be insane in an even more anti-town way than normal though. Acro wants to kill Corazon which is good. The main thing I don't like about Acro is how he called Foolishness null for ages. So I don't know. slOosh is on the mafia side for me right now. He's purposefully twisting things. Again, like the post I made a few pages ago about how he wanted to lynch me first, I said I should be lynched first (theoretically) and he's like no! lynching yamato first is just as good! despite saying he thinks I should be lynched first. He specifically changed his stance in the space of 2 posts just to disagree with what I'd written. On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote: On March 14 2013 23:44 yamato77 wrote: I think Vivax is actually mafia, but I don't have time to make the case until after the deadline, and it'll be stronger with the Foolish flip. I basically agree with your Acro logic in total, so that's good. I want to talk more about Sloosh, though. Aside from playing contradictory to you, what else in his filter factors into your read on him? It's all kinda swaying around the middle. Tunnels yamato all day? bad. decides to come off the tunnel? good. Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good. Really it's his most recent behaviour that's the most interesting. Like, why is he picking me up for saying "I'm more abrasive as town" instead of "I'm less abrasive as mafia"? They are quite evidently exactly the same thing. He's not stupid. No real conclusions, nothing to note. He won't even call them town/scum, he just calls them "interesting" or "good" or "bad" which is concerning. His comments don't reach conclusions about their alignment, which is complete bullshit for Marv at this point in the game with this big of a filter. Then I tell him, stop tunneling Foolish and do something important: On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote: On March 15 2013 00:38 yamato77 wrote: Marv, I really don't want you to spend your limited time picking apart arguments from Foolishness. Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that. On March 15 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote: On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote: On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote: Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that. I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot. It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point. yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted. The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone. On March 15 2013 00:45 marvellosity wrote: On March 15 2013 00:44 yamato77 wrote: On March 15 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote: yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted. The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone. He's still the leading vote-getter by far, dude. You don't need to push his lynch, it's already happening. Why not talk about something else that is more useful? You've been on this Foolish bullshit all day basically. Give it a rest. fuck off, yamato. [B]On March 15 2013 00:47 marvellosity wrote: it is useful, because there's still a bunch of Foolishness fanboys, not all of which are mafia. Don't ever tell me how to play again, please. He won't do it. BUT I KNOW HE KNOWS BETTER, AND ANYONE THAT IS TOWN KNOWS THAT I AM RIGHT IN THIS SITUATION. Fuck you, mafia Marv. You tricked me, you tricked me good. And Vivax's e-peen will grow one million inches after this game, but he was right about you all along. I can't believe I'm so fucking terrible. Town, listen to me. Marv is going to yell. Marv is going to scream. Ignore him. Silently, place your votes in the thread, and await his lynch. His buddies might defend him, because it's going to be difficult to lynch him, but keep to it. We have to kill Marv today. If you are town, you know the things I type about Marv in this post are true. He is mafia. Lynch him. | ||
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I've played too many games with you. | ||
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inb4 marv invokes dead townies' reads on him inb4 marv talks about his activity level as if that is how much he cares about this game inb4 marv types a post in all caps saying I am mafia and this is absurd inb4 marv calls me stupid and/or bad | ||
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MARV IS MAFIA STOP BEING DUMB | ||
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On March 17 2013 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Why are you ignoring the stuff that says why marv isnt mafia? As in? | ||
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On March 17 2013 04:04 Oatsmaster wrote: as in the fact that 1. He has a 30+ page filter 2. His play is markedly different from his play in Hero. 3. He seems invested in this game, not detached and aloof. You didn't even read my posts... Just read the case. I showed he doesn't care as much about the lynch and doesn't take stances about it as you think he does. | ||
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On March 16 2013 23:04 marvellosity wrote: yamato, literally nothing in that case shows I'm mafia ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL | ||
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On March 16 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote: ok, DP. Here's why you're mafia. On March 16 2013 23:49 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: DarthPunk And people think this guy is town? | ||
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Come on. | ||
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On March 17 2013 05:14 marvellosity wrote: nor is mafia marv you weirdo. being indecisive isn't wimpy, it's about not knowing what the best lynch is. It's really easy to be decisive when you're just making shit up you know. I clearly showed that your decision process involved blatant sheeping of town's other veterans, all of which you subsequently killed. Also, you're not screaming at me for being stupid for accusing you, SO YOU'RE DEFINITELY MAFIA THIS TIME. | ||
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