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On March 06 2013 07:43 TheRavensName wrote: Your most likely going to die horribly now, you realise this right? Haha, not getting my hopes up | ||
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On March 06 2013 08:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 08:56 Krafla wrote: Can I contact you with advice on how to avoid a policy lynch on the first day or should I just hang up my hat now? Scumslip. LYNCH DIS FEKKER Ok, I'm hanging up my lovely blue hat. I hope you're all happy! | ||
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On March 06 2013 20:28 Acrofales wrote: Everybody has confirmed their presence. Game will start tonight Oh my goodness! | ||
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On March 07 2013 07:55 TheRavensName wrote: I thought we were lynching Kafia? Dammit I thought you'd all forgotten! | ||
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On March 07 2013 15:49 MeatlessTaco wrote: Matriarch / Krafla: If I held a Point taken, I guess I'd have to pick someone randomly, so probably someone that hasn't posted yet, Arctic Daishi?! | ||
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On March 07 2013 16:14 TheRavensName wrote: Oh okay... well as long as we are going to have to start doing joke votes sense were all nubs and bad at this game with nothing to do, I'm going to stick with the policy elected before lurkers stop lurking and we get something to do. Also its cause of the Britishness. ##Vote: Krafia If you're going to vote for me at least get my name right, the penultimate letter is an 'L' ;-) | ||
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On March 07 2013 17:05 MeatlessTaco wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2013 17:01 Krafla wrote: On March 07 2013 15:49 MeatlessTaco wrote: Matriarch / Krafla: If I held a Point taken, I guess I'd have to pick someone randomly, so probably someone that hasn't posted yet, Arctic Daishi?! Why are you afraid to take a position? Are you going to vote for Arctic Daishi or just write his name with a question mark? Nope, I'm not going to vote yet, I want to make an educated decision of who to vote for instead of flinging dirt and seeing what sticks | ||
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OK I'll make a stand. I think lynching people that aren't participating in the thread is probably the best way to go at the moment, however I think we should probably give people a bit of time to come say hi. I've only just got to work and was asleep when Day 1 started so for the first 7 or so hours I was a lurker! I see there's another Brit in the game too, ChewOnStu, hopefully he'll be around in a bit and come and say hi and we'll get a few more people talking. Although I assume all the Americans are in bed or on their way to bed soon, so we're probably fighting a losing battle. | ||
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Have you seen anything so far that you think might be worthy of a lynch? | ||
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On March 07 2013 23:09 OmniEulogy wrote: damn you guys got active after I went to sleep ![]() ![]() Why even bother mentioning it then? I'm going to try playing this game out as honest as possible and try to let you guys know my thought process as often as possible. As the game progresses and hopefully as my actions will prove me to be town to the rest of you, you will be able to trust that what I say does indeed come from the mouth of a townie. I don't expect anybody to believe me at this stage in the game but as I said hopefully as we progress my actions will make it more and more clear to you all. @Krafla our of curiosity (and as I believe you are actually here) how do you feel about having a no-lynch if we run into a dead-end at the end of D1? My gut says a no-lynch would be a bad thing because we wouldn't learn anything from it, although, this is my first game so I don't have any experience to back up that feeling with! Is a no-lynch generally considered better than a miss-lynch on the first day? I still don't like the fact that we've got a few people that we haven't heard from and we're 14 hours or so into the game, I can't help but feel that we're giving them an easy ride if they are scum lurking. I'm still happy to give them the benefit of the doubt but this time tomorrow if we still haven't heard anything from anyone, then I think we seriously need to start asking why! | ||
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On March 08 2013 02:06 OmniEulogy wrote: Alright.. not much to work with and if anybody has any counter-questions for me please ask. Even if you think it's a dumb question, it's best to get them out of the way. I'd like to try and get some discussion going so.. @MLuneth Could you expand on why you chose Arctic to vote on when there were others (bduddy, ChewOnStu) without any content as well. Other than it just being a coin flip. @Krafla[spoiler]karla[/spoiler] Although you believe we may be giving some lurkers too easy of a time how do you feel about Luneth's vote on Arctic vs the other lurkers? Do you think it was too early to cast a serious vote on someone who has not been present or was it a justified action in your eyes? @ChewOnStu Welcome to the game ![]() @WoS you mentioned strategies town should implement, or rather asked about them. I was hoping you could expand on your own thoughts on the matter. Do you have anything to say about my opening post or anything to add to it? @Matriarch How do you feel about the Lynch All Liars policy. Should town attempt to coax out scum by lying and possibly confusing the rest of us / hurting town in the process? @Raven same question as above, how do you feel about Lynching all Liars. As Scum has to lie to survive do you think this would add pressure and eventually lead to a correct lynch if we caught somebody? @Rainbows You mention Luneth being scummy, what do you think about his vote on Arctic? As Arctic has yet to show up, do you think it is more town oriented (trying to get a lurker to post) or scummy (attacking the easiest player early on in hopes that Arctic doesn't defend himself). @Frorgon You mention suspicious behavior being one of the key things you will be looking for, is there anything you could note so far that you would consider suspicious? @NobodyWonder You say you don't want to lynch anybody D1 if it is unjustified, could you expand and does that mean if we have no concrete proof of scum you will vote to no-lynch or would you get rid of the scummiest lurker? @Arctic Can give us your thoughts on what has happened so far and answer most of the questions I have asked to the others. @Taco Could you give your thoughts on Luneth voting for Arctic, which alignment do you believe it favors? If I missed anybody sorry =/ | ||
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I still really don't like the fact that we haven't heard a peep from Arctic and I even more don't like that bduddy has excused his inaction, I just hope he makes up on the promise that he's going to participate some more tomorrow. If you really can't participate much because of personal issues send a pm to the host and lets get a replacement in here that we can play the game with. | ||
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What I wanted to add was it seemed like people only started to consider NW once MeatlessTaco went after him, and I was going to wonder out loud if MeatlessTaco knew more than he was letting on, but then reading your post and pointing out that he was just being aggressive I decided I might as well give him the benefit of the doubt. And now the same thing has happened again and Matriarch has posted throwing doubt on Meatless just before I hit send, ohwell, I'm going to leave it here! On March 08 2013 07:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2013 07:09 Krafla wrote: I'm going to make an observation here about nobodywonder. A lot of people seem to be calling him one of their two main scum reads at the moment, but looking at his filter he really hasn't said much, yes what he has said sounded pretty scummy but we're only really talking about two posts. I'd like to hear him defend himself. Show nested quote + On March 08 2013 07:07 WaveofShadow wrote: Want to hear more from: MeatlessTaco: Aggressively enters the thread makes a couple early game cases and leaves. Who is your top scumread right now and why? (I refuse to believe it's NW just because you voted him) Nobodywonder: Useless early pressure of lurkers and talks about how he doesn't want to lynch D1. Inherently looks extremely scummy, but it's still early so I'll give him a chance to defend himself. What's up, NW? Matriarch: Two posts, though calls out people for random voting which is ok I guess. It's been a little while now, what are your updated reads? Do you still think Meatless is scum? | ||
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On March 08 2013 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote: That's mafia for you. ![]() | ||
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##Vote: nobodywonder I was expecting a post from him highlighting my failings, namely my unfortunate post timing and my inability to make a decision, so here's my decision. I also expect he'll call me out for bandwagoning and just jumping on him to hide myself because everyone else was voting for him, so let me nip that one in the bud and explain myself. I was hoping to wait a little bit longer and find someone else to vote for who appeared more suspicious, although as it stands at the moment I can't. Saying that, I noted that nobodywonder wanted to play hard with the lurkers, which I completely understand, yet he has a go at me for making similar suggestions, we were just going about it different ways. On March 08 2013 08:53 nobodywonder wrote: ...i'd say the most suspicious active is Krafla he hasn't really contributed. all he says is to reserve judgment and not vote, but his gut says a no-lynch would be a bad thing. i'd say that's a contradiction and that he should really be actively pursuing leads... I've now realised that a no-lynch would be bad for us due to not giving us any information and basically giving the mob a walkover on day 1. The only two people that I've had suspicions about so far have been nobodywonder and MeatlessTaco. nobodywonder asked why I was suspicious of MeatlessTaco, the only reason was his unrelenting attack early on in the game, I realise now that this might have just been to promote discussion. At the moment Meatless has done well getting discussion out of people, so for that alone I'm not going to vote for him. nobodywonder at the best hasn't created any discusion and at the worst has suggested some people who might be masons. This might not be classic scum play, but it's definitely not helpful town play. | ||
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On March 10 2013 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Oops that whole thing should've been in spoilers. Oh well. Krafla I hope you see how scummy you look to the rest of us right now; I'm not sure I care if you get targeted N1. Explain your vote process for D1 and any new reads you have please. Yeah I realise how bad I look now, so I'm just going to have to try extra hard scum hunting in Day 2. My vote process for Day 1 was exactly as I originally explained it. I didn't want a no-lynch and instead of lynching an inactive in Day 1 and getting little information out if it, I thought it better to lynch someone who would give us some information by letting us read into their posts. As I mentioned I had doubts on nobodywonder and MeatlessTaco but I felt that Meatless had promoted more interesting conversation than nobodywonder, so that's where I placed my vote. Bear in mind that I made this decision before the large amount of posts that occurred before the lynch, ie before Arctic became more active and before people even considered trying to get the town to switch from nobodywonder to Arctic. | ||
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I am a one-shot cop I checked MLuneth tonight and as soon as I get my result back I will tell you the result. | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:36 OmniEulogy wrote: it's only what.. 2:30am there? ![]() it's unfortunate if you are telling the truth and got RB'd ![]() I'ts 12:30 here. The reason I didn't post last night was because I was out at a beer festival, I didn't want to post drunk and figured the best way to avoid a lynch was to keep quiet. I wanted to avoid the lynch so I could help the town by using my cop ability. Now with hindsight, because I probably wasn't in much danger to get shot tonight, I probably should've waited till tomorrow night to use my ability. The main reason I used it tonight was to try and give us the best information possible, as soon as possible. My initial thoughts concerning WoS' RB is that he was saved from getting shot tonight. If we follow this line of thought through, I'm sure we can make a few educated guesses as to why WoS was targetted. The other thing I'm going to think about is why was I role blocked? I'm guessing the mob RB'd me (because we've already established that I likely wasn't a high priority target for the mob to target) however there must've been enough suspicions that I had a blue role. Were my actions on Day 1 indicative of a blue? If you want to go back and read my filter I'm sure you'll notice that I wasn't quick to point fingers and I tried to stay out of a lot of argument. This was mainly because I didn't want to draw attention to myself and let the town lose my ability. It's now nearly 1, I've spent most of the day hungover and the better half is calling me to bed, so I'll catch you all tomorrow! Sorry to run away like this, but I think on the whole this has gotta be good news for the town, we've still got a full compliment and the mob is down by one. We're definitely winning at the moment! Now that I don't have anything to hide or be careful of you can expect a bit more activity from me in the future. | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:47 OmniEulogy wrote: @Krafla did you leave any bread crumbs to prove that you are 1 shot cop or that you were targetting Luneth tonight? I did not breadcrumb, I didn't want to risk mafia finding it and I wasn't confident enough in my ability to hide something without it being obvious. Good night! | ||
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So it looks like the vote at the moment is between MLuneth or MeatlessTaco. I was initially suspicious of MeatlessTaco due to his aggressive nature, but early on I decided against a vote for him because he'd contributed more than nobodywonder. Now by the time night one rolled around I'd been convinced by reading through the thread that a check on MLuneth would provide a better return than a check on Meatless. It turns out it didn't matter who I made a check on because I got roleblocked. Now (Warning speculation) assuming I was RB'd by the scum and not by the town, who do you think the Mafia would've seen as my most likely target? Especially over the night there was a lot of speculation towards MLuneth, which is what persuaded me to use my check on MLuneth. Now if I picked MLuneth as the person most warranting a check, what are the chances that the mob second guessed me and blocked me? For the moment I'm going to ##Vote: MLuneth primarily because even though he was active at the time he didn't switch his vote when near the end of Day 1 whilst town was coming to the consensus that a vote on AD was better. | ||
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On March 12 2013 01:31 Frorgon wrote: Krafla, I don't know how you expect the mafia to have suspected you for targeting Luneth unless you post saying "I checked Luneth" didn't actually go through after the deadline. I was always a little scared when you posted that because there had been no official call to the end of N1. Otherwise, yes, the chances were slim that they would have guessed and landed on you, but it could've happened. I don't see any other way for them to have known. Yeah I have no idea why anyone would suspect me other than me keeping quiet. I did post my claim 5 minutes after the deadline and the deadline was explicitly referenced as being "in 36 minutes" at 24 minutes past the hour.. On March 10 2013 08:24 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2013 08:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh wow, not sure how I missed that. Thanks. Responding as it may not be fully clear. Action submission deadline is in 36min as per OP. Cycle deadline is typically in 1hr36min. For Night 1 *only*; cycle deadline will occur roughly in 1hours time (with a 15min give-or-take). The Day 2 cycle will be extended to compensate (i.e. 48hrs + the extra ~30min (give or take)) The only other person to suggest a reason as to why I was RB'd (apart from me potentially posting before the deadline?) was TheRavensName here. At the moment this is the best reason I can think of. On March 10 2013 09:57 TheRavensName wrote: Well Krafia did state a couple of times he had cases and had no intention of revealing them till after day 2 started. I suppose you could use this as semi eviddence or slight bread crumbing. Mafia could have easily picked up on this and blocked him. | ||
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On March 12 2013 02:15 marvellosity wrote: Vote Count OmniEulogy (1): MLuneth (4): WaveofShadow, Rainbows, Frorgon, Krafla MeatlessTaco (4): OmniEulogy, TheRavensName, bduddy, nobodywonder, Rainbows (1): MLuneth No vote: MeatlessTaco, Matriarch MeatlessTaco is currently set to be lynched. 7h 45mins until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else. If there's a mistake, let me know! | ||
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On March 12 2013 02:09 TheRavensName wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2013 09:04 Mocsta wrote: Vote Count Krafla (0): MLuneth (0): nobodywonder (4): bduddy (0): Arctic Daishi (6): ChewOnStu (0): TheRavensName (0): Frorgon (2): MeatlessTaco (1): No vote: F Arctic Daishi is currently set to be lynched. 1 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else. To me this is the biggest evidence against meatless. If mafia wanted to save arctic they could have jumped oon meatless, which would put him in the lynch and saved arctic by keeping omni and frogon on meatless and off arctic and then they could have blamed omni,s case and might have gotten away with it or built time to make new myslynch cases together afterwards. Mluneth still just seems like a guess to me by most people. You've sold me on this one TheRavensName. This is definitely better evidence than we have on MLuneth at the moment. And looking back at Meatless' aggressive opening this definitely seems like a safer lynch option. ##Unvote ##Vote: MeatlessTaco | ||
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On March 12 2013 03:39 Rainbows wrote: That feel when stagnated discussion. What do you think of MeatlessTaco? | ||
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March 11 2013 22:36 GMT
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On March 12 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote: Vote Count OmniEulogy (0): MLuneth (2): MeatlessTaco (8): OmniEulogy, TheRavensName, bduddy, nobodywonder, Rainbows (1): MLuneth No vote: Matriarch MeatlessTaco is currently set to be lynched. 2 and a half hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else. If there's a mistake, let me know! I had voted for MLuneth, and then changed my vote to MeatlessTaco | ||
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I targeted geript last night because I was suspicious of the lack of content in his posts and the amount of 'joke' spam that he was posting. | ||
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On March 12 2013 23:05 WaveofShadow wrote: But did you really ruin it? Thinking about it , is it worth checking your filter again Geript knowing what I know now? I'm thinking so. What's all this about? Did WoS suspect geript before he was shot? Presumably WoS was shot because he was onto the right tracks. Geript has said a lot without saying anything at all. Here's a few posts where WoS casts doubt on geript: On March 10 2013 12:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah, this isn't enough. I'm doing all your work for you right now, and if you expect me to believe that you actually want OE lynched you'd better come up with something or I'm dropping it. On March 10 2013 15:31 WaveofShadow wrote: ...In my opinion OE's continued effort and Geript's decided lack of such actually makes Geript look kinda scummy. Still awaiting that promised case. However recently we have this, On March 13 2013 03:47 WaveofShadow wrote: For the record, I don't think geript is scum, and I think matriarch should be ignored. If she isn't participating, despite not being modkilled she isn't a threat and we can figure her out once we dispose of someone else. I'll post some reads after night is over and we see some action. WoS seems to flip between suspecting geript completely and then not suspecting him at all. Why? Is geript just too clever or is it becuase WoS and geript have played together before and are just enjoying a bit of 'banter'? Am I reading too much in to this. During Day 2 WoS heavily favours voting MLuneth over anyone else. Because WoS flipped town and because he only switched to MeatlessTaco near the end of the day because MT dug a grave for himself I'm going to have to trust WoS on this one and ##Vote: MLuneth | ||
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I think it's worth digging into geript a little bit further though, especially as he seemed desperate to lynch OmniEulogy and WoS seemed pretty set against it and favoured you. I'd like to hear what your thoughts on geript are and what geript's thoughts on you are. | ||
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On March 13 2013 20:49 TheRavensName wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2013 15:25 bduddy wrote: On March 13 2013 15:18 Krafla wrote: Really? So the mafia blocked you without even knowing if you still had a shot or not? I'm not buying it. Who did you target and why? Did you breadcrumb, and why did you not night-post like last night?Morning guys, just woken up and about to head to work, but just to let you know I was role blocked again tonight. Considering that we supposedly are supposed to know all the possible roles, is it really necessary that you hide important mechanics about how they work? If someone was willing to claim as a cop its a huge liability for mafia to let them actually get their investi off. I think its better this way IMO. I think the only reason Krafia would have gotten blocked AGAIN is because it was mentioned they would have to ask him for how it works... and he went out of his way to pretend that line of questioning never existed. That being said, this makes me start to grow wary of Omni again. Omni was pushing after the perfect night of life livingness that our blue roles should reveal themselves so we can know what to think of the night, which would give him a nice pretty list of easy targets. Hes also the one that wanted to know the most how the one shot cop would work. I also can't help but feel he kind of manipulated our jail keeper. I was RBed last night, which I'm willing to take as me being saved over WoS.... and Omni basically told WoS that jailkeeper was an idiot for choosing WoS over me, so last night the Jailkeeper followed that logic and WoS got run over. Interesting thoughts on Omni here TRN. Assuming it was a JK that saved you and WoS and a mafia RB that blocked me presumably now I am going to be perpetually RB'd or just outright shot at night? | ||
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March 13 2013 12:29 GMT
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On March 13 2013 21:19 TheRavensName wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2013 21:15 Krafla wrote: On March 13 2013 20:49 TheRavensName wrote: On March 13 2013 15:25 bduddy wrote: On March 13 2013 15:18 Krafla wrote: Really? So the mafia blocked you without even knowing if you still had a shot or not? I'm not buying it. Who did you target and why? Did you breadcrumb, and why did you not night-post like last night?Morning guys, just woken up and about to head to work, but just to let you know I was role blocked again tonight. Considering that we supposedly are supposed to know all the possible roles, is it really necessary that you hide important mechanics about how they work? If someone was willing to claim as a cop its a huge liability for mafia to let them actually get their investi off. I think its better this way IMO. I think the only reason Krafia would have gotten blocked AGAIN is because it was mentioned they would have to ask him for how it works... and he went out of his way to pretend that line of questioning never existed. That being said, this makes me start to grow wary of Omni again. Omni was pushing after the perfect night of life livingness that our blue roles should reveal themselves so we can know what to think of the night, which would give him a nice pretty list of easy targets. Hes also the one that wanted to know the most how the one shot cop would work. I also can't help but feel he kind of manipulated our jail keeper. I was RBed last night, which I'm willing to take as me being saved over WoS.... and Omni basically told WoS that jailkeeper was an idiot for choosing WoS over me, so last night the Jailkeeper followed that logic and WoS got run over. Interesting thoughts on Omni here TRN. Assuming it was a JK that saved you and WoS and a mafia RB that blocked me presumably now I am going to be perpetually RB'd or just outright shot at night? Well considering plenty of people are still skeptical of you, or were before this, I dunno. Haha cool, I'll keep people being skeptical of me then so I can try and get off a check! | ||
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March 13 2013 15:34 GMT
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I posted after the night action deadline saying what I'd done (because I was only a 1-shot cop) but before the night action resolution (after which I announced the outcome). What difference does it make posting after the deadline or posting after the resolution UNLESS the deadline wasn't when it was specifically said that it would be? If I'm missing something obvious please explain it to me so I know in the future! | ||
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On March 14 2013 00:48 Rainbows wrote: Show nested quote + On March 14 2013 00:34 Krafla wrote: So you're supposed to wait for night actions to resolve and then announce what you did and what you learnt? I thought that was more likely to make you sound like you were bluffing. I posted after the night action deadline saying what I'd done (because I was only a 1-shot cop) but before the night action resolution (after which I announced the outcome). What difference does it make posting after the deadline or posting after the resolution UNLESS the deadline wasn't when it was specifically said that it would be? If I'm missing something obvious please explain it to me so I know in the future! You NEVER claim unless you have to. You were roleblocked. Had you not claimed blue, you wouldn't be being roleblocked every night from now on. Bah, I thought that's how you used a one-shot. And up until someone asked in the thread had no idea that my skill would be refunded if I was RB'd. I suppose I should've considered it. | ||
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