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and that person should be me the macho man randy savage becasue comparatively speaking the rest of you people are nothing but garbage to the macho man. Off balance on balance it doesn't matter I'm simply better than you. You people are like pebbles of sand and I'm the entire desert. Don't bet against the macho man. don't bet against your life. ## Vote the Macho Man This is the first step to lynching scum because the macho man is simply the best. | ||
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On February 26 2013 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote: And you're able to read WoS based on behavior I guess? What kind of games have you played with our undulating friend? its like the most important person in the world is standing here and you two have a conversation going on. Im only the greatest of all time and you people are having a conversation. Allow me to interrupt me the macho man randy savage. | ||
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Mr. Sarcasm the macho man is not happy with your decision no. The macho man should not be ignored. | ||
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but nothing means nothing yeah!!! nothing means nothing wofs could be scum could be town. but the cream always rises yeah right top im talking cream of the crop town rises to the top. not a bad vig shot though. | ||
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The macho man is not happy with your decision because you did not explain why the macho man is scum and not the greatest of all time yeah! | ||
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On February 26 2013 10:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Are you saying you want to vote for me? Or what? The roleplaying is fun, but it makes you hard to understand Macho. The macho man likes your confusion and could see that you may in fact be town because you care to figure out the macho mans alignment. The macho man also understands that you are not garbage like the rest. But the macho man would still prefer the macho man because comparatively speaking you are not better than the macho man | ||
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On February 26 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Would I doubt this statement if I knew who the Macho Man was behind the mask? yes but the macho man wouldn't doubt it. | ||
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On February 26 2013 10:35 Vivax wrote: What does everyone think about NachoMan picking me out of everyone else doing the same? Let's see, Toad made a guess, Wade is making guesses, Vivax made guesses. Who might be easier to lynch? Oh it's Vivax, everybody loves lynching Vivax. what does vivax think? | ||
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ve looks townie to me promoting discussion and showed some confusion towards me grepit is null need more however nothing sticks out as supper scummy to the macho man. | ||
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On February 26 2013 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote: ......association.  What? | ||
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On February 26 2013 12:26 randombum wrote: Just caught up, some thoughts. The idea of setting up votes so the the pardoner is the lynch target seems ridiculous. Here's a crazy idea. What if we try to get scum elected on purpose. The idea is the mayor will probably not last every long in this set-up anyways. My plan is basically we get a scummy person in the thread elected as mayor and get him to lynch the scummiest. Depending on what he does and how the flip goes we can gain a lot of good information. If the mayor is unwilling to lynch the scummiest then we can vig the mayor. If he turns red then we have caught two scum. If he does lynch him and he turns red then good, the scummiest looking player was scum. If the mayor lynches the scummiest and he turns green, then we have to seriously look at the mayor. If the mayor also turns out green, then the town really sucked. Basically we use this vote to choose our lynch target and put a scummy player in the spotlight by making him mayor. While normally having a scum mayor would really suck, the fact that there are no bodyguards make it far less risky because we can simply vig him if his play sucks. thats sounds retarded we want to lynch scum mayor gets to lynch we want town there so he lynches scum hopefully. are you scum? | ||
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On February 26 2013 12:29 randombum wrote: Well obviously lynching scum is good. But the idea is we can use it to gain a lot of information that simply elected a town mayor who is likely to die does not. why are we trying to get information instead of lynching scum? | ||
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On February 26 2013 12:33 Promethelax wrote: Why not try to get both? I'm a fan of anyone who tries to use the set up to help us. because the game is hard enough. We dont need some convoluted plan to try and lynch scum we get the best scum hunter and player that is likely town in there and we let him kill the scum. | ||
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On February 26 2013 12:35 randombum wrote: Why are you treating gathering information and lynching scum as mutually exclusive. This plan involves lynching the scum target and putting another in the spotlight. I could get it if you said something like "this plan would never work because...." or something like that, but to simply dismiss it because gathering information is bad? we put someone in there that is scummy he could be town or he could be scum. If he is scum he just lynches someone that looks scummy in the thread. If he is town and is a bad player he lynches someone that might be town or scum. We figure out who is town and the best scum hunter and he will likely lynch scum. That gives us the best chance of killing scum and that is what we will do. | ||
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On February 26 2013 10:35 Vivax wrote: What does everyone think about NachoMan picking me out of everyone else doing the same? Let's see, Toad made a guess, Wade is making guesses, Vivax made guesses. Who might be easier to lynch? Oh it's Vivax, everybody loves lynching Vivax. This guy tries insinuate that i am scum with this post and does not follow it up at all. HE comes off as scum that needs a crying towel. On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote: Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now. I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy. Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting) Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then") conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx) I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch. This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense conclusion: probably scum, would lynch. I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can. Good luck town! Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die. Vivax has actually done nothing this game and should die. If prom sticks around and contributes i say let him live vivax hasn't done anything. A vote for me is a vote to kill vivax the man who wants to appear active but in fact is doing nothing Vivax Macho madness is coming straight at you. | ||
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On February 26 2013 23:24 MilkSuckler wrote: In fairness, Prome said pre-game he would be unavailable during this period of the cycle. So I dont treat the absence as scummy. You are the second person (after JungleJorge) to purport Prome innocent, with not backing. Considering he is under heavy scrutiny, I think it is the time to provide the evidence to support his innocence, instead of a soft-claim. I expect that you have voiced your opinion on this matter, you will have no qualms following through with the reasoning. Thank you. he has been one of the more active guys seems interested in the game and looks like he cared about the lynch. Those are in fact townie traits. | ||
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On February 26 2013 23:27 The Milkman wrote: Those are in fact traits which are very weak to call someone town. Does that mean that not posting means someone is scum? We all know how lurkers turn out. scum don't like the spotlight prom has been in the spotlight. That's mafia 101 come on. | ||
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On February 26 2013 23:37 MilkSuckler wrote: So let me haphazard a guess. That you are in the spotlight defending prome; suggests -with your logic - that you are not scum, due to mafia 101? Correct? of course | ||
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On February 26 2013 23:41 MilkSuckler wrote: Macho Man (1) Do you think Vivax has been in the spotlight? He has seemed to draw attention from multiple stakeholders. is lynch interest the only separator between Vivax/prome for you? vivax has not been in the spotlight at all he just seems like he wants to appear active with pointless posts that do nothing. He does not look like he is trying to figure out peoples alignment at all. Ie throws shit at me but does nothing with. That is extremely mafia motivated mindset because he doesn't want the attention of trying to push for my lynch but still wants to throw needless suspicion. On February 26 2013 23:41 MilkSuckler wrote: (2) I am confused when you say prome has been interested in the lynch? Can you please expand, because this conflicts with my opinions (already expressed here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=37#726) his thoughts on ve and grush come to mind figuring out that some people might be town is useful in a mayor vote | ||
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On February 27 2013 00:12 MilkSuckler wrote: I am having trouble understanding how you can claim Vivax is "extremely mafia motivated" when it is known he is typically a "trolly" type player. If he is such a scum read for you; why not lead pressure on Vivax? I noticed you called him out, and then proceed to declare he should die. Where is the intention to understand whether your read was made abruptly? Im not seeing the connection to why commenting about starsenses (i.e. Grush) is useful in a mayor vote. Are you looking for someone who declares openly their town reads; or are you looking for someone actively engaging others in the scum hunt? Please share your logic process. because we want town in those positions not mafia. We figure out who town is vote them thats why town reads are useful right now. | ||
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On February 27 2013 00:26 Toadesstern wrote: EWBOP am in a game of dota right now so I'm only posting very quickly inbetween deaths :p so a lot? | ||
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On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote: Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else? because he might be town | ||
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On February 27 2013 00:59 MilkSuckler wrote: The Macho Man = Iamperfection I have to say... now that I know mr. super duper pro-town is hard defending prome, I am even more concerned.... concerned about what | ||
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On February 27 2013 01:03 The Milkman wrote: Okay, that solves things. I'll just get an ignore list going. for someone that hasn't done shit all game. I ask you the same question. You scum? | ||
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On February 27 2013 01:07 MilkSuckler wrote: Well now that I know you are != n00b .. I expect more rational that what has been presented from you. Im not a heretic on prome; I identified behaviour I think is consistent with a scum mentality. Everything you have declared as reasons for prome to be town are weak at best and defending a scumbuddy at worst. This in conjunction with not being a n00b, is far from perfect play.... lol your lucky you get any rationale from me. | ||
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On February 27 2013 01:09 Restraining Order wrote: This is the dumbest thing I have read all game, and let me tell you, there are plenty dumb things around. like your filter... I'm rolling baby | ||
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I agree with this That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting. | ||
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On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote: we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot why are you defending him? | ||
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On February 27 2013 08:20 layabout wrote: well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him. i dont even.... wat just so much wat i will be back in a bit | ||
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On February 27 2013 11:45 MilkSuckler wrote: Agree on testsubject With JJ..after re-reading his filter, I liking him a lot better and wouldnt consider him a strong candidate for lynch. I am very keen to hear the continuation thoughts on macho man, once prome is lynched. This will be paramount to developing my read further on him. how so | ||
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On February 27 2013 12:06 iamperfection wrote: well good sir i just checked my role pm and it says regardless of what prom is i am town its very conditional like that | ||
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On February 27 2013 12:08 MilkSuckler wrote: <sarcasm> Guess what, mine said Im a duelist.... Thanks for deciding to lift ya game and make meaningful conversation </sarcasm> ya you doing that meaningful covesation that im scum based on proms flip ya thats real useful. | ||
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On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/ i would say that is accurate | ||
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On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote: geript is scum so fear him you should not why do you say that? i see no super scummyness in his filter he attacks some of the huge names in the threads for whatever reason and seems to have no fear On February 27 2013 11:17 geript wrote: Fine then Dr. You think I'm scum. Bring the case. looks like a misguided townie to me | ||
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On February 28 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote: Macho... I asked Milkman before to tell me who your top 2 reads were. he couldnt find ithem. Frankly. i dont care who you think is (misguided) town, cos scum know who is town. Please be all macho and provide your top two scum reads. when i feel like it brah i lik mye town reads they are easier and almost always right. | ||
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On February 28 2013 11:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Your town reads are worthless to us and you're going to get lynched down the line if you play like this. i dont think we have been introduced i am perfection and i simply can not be lynched. | ||
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On February 28 2013 11:26 JungleJorge wrote: Congratulations, you have proven I'm not confirmed town for wanting to lynch prome. Come back later when you have something useful. Or better, look into people like TMM who is actually scum. you know your allowed to comment on someone other than me. Is this how you decided your going to contribute? | ||
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On February 28 2013 11:31 JungleJorge wrote: The guilt pours out of your pores as you type this half hearted mudslinging attempt . Rest at ease, you aren't long for this world. ok just checking you would be scum read #1 then if thats all you plan on doing. | ||
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actually its not you see he basically decided that his way of "contributing" for the next coming cycle is to tunnel the hell out of me. I in the mean time will be looking for more scum jj can die though. | ||
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On February 28 2013 12:23 iamperfection wrote: i agree with suckler that post by obvious one is completly useless and is overly defensive. reminds me of myself as scum in gsl 2 where i said basically said the same thing saying the only way to prove my towniness was by playing better. The only way you prove your town is by hunting scum and oo post does none of that and looks like a scum that is having a terrible time making case by trying to throw suspicion on aqua but not explaining why his actions are mafia motivated. | ||
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herp derp your not reading the thread are you? I was outed a long time ago | ||
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On February 28 2013 12:29 ObviousOne wrote: Yet you seem to pay so little attention to which account you are using that I have attributed the same degree of reading skills to the conclusion of my post. you dont think you were being overly defensive in your post? You could and should have if you were town this is why aqua is scum ......... instead you said aqua is scum because he is acting just like you........unless im missing something. | ||
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On February 28 2013 12:41 ObviousOne wrote: Wow. Yeah please shoot me I don't want to be around these two. Thanks Vig. yeah that real nice if your town your playing against your win cond. dont do that shit come on lets keep talking. | ||
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On February 28 2013 12:44 JungleJorge wrote: I'm actually leaning town on vivax. Besides his filter size and his general inquisitive attitude towards other players, there is also his long post that he comments on several others. One of those is me, who he actually mixed up with another player and came to the conclusion I was scum based on another player filter. To me that indicates that he had several filters opened when writing it and thus is likely townie. I believe mafia would not only be more careful, but decide their target first before attacking someone. I think we should focus on those 2 (TMM and RO) tomorrow instead. this is actually correct except for the last sentence  vivax mixed me and jj up looking back at his post again. doesn't seem like a big scum calculated post at all. | ||
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On February 28 2013 12:53 MilkSuckler wrote: dunno on that one, Vivax is a crazy muda farker that has no problems bussing (without QT consent).. look at his game with Toad in ?Fruity? He acts like a lone ranger... even when town does the same thing thats not what we are talking about but ok | ||
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Obviousone martyr crap looks to me as natural and not forced seems like he is more likely to be town at this point. I agree with jj on aqua and taking another look as well as what at obvious said aqua. It seems like aquas only contribution was to in fact just tunnel obvious and seemed like that was his way of contributing. hasybaby is probable scum as well because he does not care about town at all and seems to have no interest in the game. so aqua and hasy | ||
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On March 01 2013 00:33 Vivax wrote: I fail to see any useful purpose for you saying you lean town on me. I'd much rather have you mentioning these two or three people you speak of. Why do I feel like this is just thrown in here with the purpose of calming the waters and not do more? because your bad. do you think those two guys are town? | ||
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On March 01 2013 00:54 Vivax wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397553&user=149300¤tpage=All - Town 7-8 pages of filter D1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&user=299690¤tpage=All - now 3 pages including the night. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&user=149300¤tpage=All - Town 4-5 pages D1, also a different feeling of your play. Aggressive pushing. Dessert you actually had about the same amount of filter as here, but you replaced in. I didn't check the timestamps on the minute, but I think you can see where I'm coming from. so it is just activity. I'm confident i'm right with these 2 being mafia so we should kill them what you think of me is irrelevant. | ||
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On March 01 2013 01:09 MilkSuckler wrote: hassybaby i agree.. aqua i dont did you not read the discussion aqua and I had? what about it? | ||
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On March 01 2013 01:22 MilkSuckler wrote: what about what? stop being useless.. its a simple question.. did you read it? cos if you did, im surprised you still find him guilty this is the part where you post more than 1 sentence no that conversation does not make me think he is town. all it was was defense no scum hunting that is scummy. | ||
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On March 01 2013 01:36 MilkSuckler wrote: Sure. But i dont see what scum hunting you have done. As far as i know.. you have plucked a number out a hat and said.. JJ/Aqua is scum.. theres no development of a read in your filter Yes I dont have to like you to sheep you... but I do have to trust you.. and that currently does not exist that's not what im saying and you don't have to trust me at all. Im either scum or im not hasy and aqua have acted scummy what you think of me is completely irrelevant from my point of view because i know im town so i know im on to something with these two. I have excellent town reads plus i bus all the time as scum so either way you should be winning by going along with me. | ||
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The simpler and right explanation is that he is town that got role-blocked by someone. reported the role block and is a vig. | ||
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On March 01 2013 10:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: this discussion is pointless until vivax can explain himself can we talk about what I just posted on Toadesstern or maybe anyone has an alternative case they want to push? I have a bit more to add but I'm gonna run to the store real quick i dont really find it that scummy at all. Sounds like something i would do as town if i thought i had caught scum early on touting my awesomeness and mocking all the plebs. i think toad shouldn't be the top concern espically when we have hasy doing absolutely nothing. Thats where my vote is going | ||
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for those of you not voting hassy i have a big question for you. Why not? On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote: Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours Remember when he posted this after not posting for an entire hour trying to make it sound like he is actually figuring stuff out when he is actually not. he is scum lets kill him and for those waiting for it... yes it is the wagon of justice. | ||
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On March 01 2013 13:17 Chezinu wrote: With the milkman gone.... Got milk? Also, sorry for crying over the split milk... actually... the jokes aren't helping how I feel... are you going to talk about anything else or are literally just going to cry over spilt milk? | ||
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On March 01 2013 14:22 MilkSuckler wrote: yay mod knows now hopefulyl 5-10min well if this is true then im gonna guess it was fake. | ||
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On March 01 2013 14:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't think a newbie scum would make that post. He would just have made his post on OO if it was indeed real, I'm sure it would be worked on and approved in the scum qt. WIFOM but that's my 2 cents. the to bad to be scum argument? The post effectively achieves nothing and it does not look like scum hunting. | ||
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On March 01 2013 14:44 TestSubject893 wrote: I promised to post some thoughts and this is the explanation of why I'm not doing that. Its not helpful, I agree. oh well if he is gonna be that upfront with it that its maybe he is more likely to be misguided town. | ||
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On March 01 2013 20:22 Toadesstern wrote: oh and actually just a little explaining, I'm still reading but only answering if I have to because it's not really worth it. Here are my thoughts I had when talking with someone outside of the game (you're allowed to talk & post as long as the guy is not in the game, right?^^): + Show Spoiler + [27.02.2013 12:58:52] Erik: yamato keeps telling me I'm mafia because I wasn't agressive enough and stopped being agressive after the first 2 or 3 hour (duh, after the first 2 hours it's 4 am german time...) [27.02.2013 12:59:42] Erik: how can I be more agressive than calling for a dayvig 2 hours into the game betting VE's left ball on the guy being mafia.. [27.02.2013 13:00:17] Erik: it's like there's this aura of retardation when people who aren't called Syllo, Sand or Marv are dealing with me [27.02.2013 13:04:06] Erik: the worst part really is people telling me I'm mafia because of "insert Town-trait here"... that's just so annoying [27.02.2013 13:04:31] Erik: like the biggest difference in meta imo is that when I'm town I don't mind about emotions at all, which leads to the hypno-toad kind of thing [27.02.2013 13:04:44] Erik: as mafia I'm controlling that stuff because I have to to not look odd [27.02.2013 13:04:53] Erik: and I'm getting told I'm mafia because of that.. [27.02.2013 13:05:26] XXX: yeah [27.02.2013 13:05:37] XXX: and you can't defend yourself with it either which is also very annoying That's pretty much the reason I was mad earlier. I've got this bullshit 3 times in a row now. I've been told I'm mafia last game because "Toad posts a lot of walls of text! He isn't doing that when he rolls town! LYNCH HIM". This time it's not being agressive enough early on while it's 2 am or because "lynch was too easy, let's lynch Toad", or because of "Toad badding his own back, must be mafia!" when everyone knows that I regulary do that as town when I'm mad to rub it into peoples faces and I don't do that as mafia. Check Mafia L for example... I told people Palmar is town d1, told people Sandro is mafia d1, people lynched Palmar and later on Sandro and EVERYONE was mad at me because "how does Toad know Palmar is town when everyone thought he's mafia and how did you know Sandro was mafia so early on?" and everyone in the game tried to lynch me for that although it isn't even a mafiatrait in the slightest. Okay back to this game: VE basicly said I'm mafia because I'm so egocentrical and focused about myself which again, is a towntrait for me and when confronted with it answered "duh, you know about it. Meta you know about yourself isn't worth a damn". No shit sherlock, knowledge about my own meta and the assumption that I can play and confuse you with that makes it a null though if you really think so and not a mafiatrait. So if you want me to answer something give me something that I can answer. I'm not going to explain why something that is a towntrait really is a towntrait this game as well and not some fancy mafiaploy from me because there's no possible way to do that. When you want to lynch me because "well Toad looks really good with the d1 lynch but he looks too good! Must have been a bus! LYNCH HIM" there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I told Greymist I'm going to stop being mad about people being bad and will just ignore them from now on (you probably know the timing of that one). I'm still sticking to that promise. See you in 48hours. you claiming scum? 1.thats not an explanation at all 2. it looks like you dont give a shit about this lynch if your gonna afk for 48 hours 3. thats is scummy as fuck i will be here as always you could at leat have tried to make a case toad you could of but are you afraid that my attention is not divided my townieness will start to burn like it always does. your checking out makes no sense. | ||
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If you were town i would expect you to you know try to advocate me getting killed up untill the deadline pushing your reads and whatnot commenting on the game. There is no explanation for this other than that you are scum vote toad | ||
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On March 01 2013 23:34 jcarlsoniv wrote: I find it more interesting that you only show up and start freaking the fuck out when just toad lays suspicion on you. he has been doing it the whole game and i didnt care because it was justified i didnt have my full attention on this game so i did appear scummy. But this action by him is super scummy if he advocated for my lynch tried to push it as a read i would be inclined to think he is town. But since he openly claimed he does not give a shit about this lynch it is extremely likely he is scum. | ||
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Toad does not care about this lynch toad is scum. | ||
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On March 01 2013 23:48 Toadesstern wrote: I'm not afk. I said I'm going to ignore everything that is said about me that is impossible to talk about, like all the bullshit about how I am supposed to be mafia bussing prom, because there's no way to defend or say anything against that kind of stuff because you're literally saying "toad looks too townish to be town, got to be a mafialploy". I'm still here reading and answering stuff that is worth being answered. Just like this one because you don't seem to understand what I said, or at least intended to say. um excuse me the way you defend yourself is to hunt scum not being all whiny that people arent giving you enough town cred. and you SHOULD know that. | ||
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On March 01 2013 23:51 Toadesstern wrote: okay just once as an example what I'm talking about: 1) exactly, because there's nothing to explain. Ask me what you want me to explain and I'll do it. Stop telling me to answer stuff like "Toads meta is nothing like it was in furity but I don't like it, so lynch him" because I can't explain or defend against something like that if there's no point to it to begin with. 2) That's actually true but I'm not afking for 48hours. 3) What I said about 1. Tell me what you consider scummy. I can't answer like that. I'm getting this crap from the very beginning of this game up until now and people are like "woah toad is totally ignoring it!"... if you are going to be here and going to help find scum then i dont think your scummy at all. But when someone says lynch this guy and says they are going to afk then yes i would think that is a scum claim | ||
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On March 01 2013 23:55 Toadesstern wrote: what part of: "You're mafia and I figured out prom 2 hours into d1 bitches" don't you understand? so you dont think there is any chance that im town. You dont think me playing two games at once had something to do with my lower activity. You dont think my play has changed at all with me being dead in my other game. does it look like im interested in the game now? does it look like im trying to figure things out? | ||
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On March 01 2013 23:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ok, here, instead of asking a question directly about you: Could you possibly explain why macho is scum? whats stopping you from chiming in with your own thoughts? | ||
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On March 02 2013 00:01 Toadesstern wrote: Iamp is the easiest guy to read on TL when he's town. He's being an ass, not being scared about anything he says, saying everything what's on his mind no matter if it makes sense or not and basicly a WBG-junior just without being as much correct about what he's saying. He completly and utterly lacks the ability to bring said "I don't care / I'm not afraid / I say what I want to say" attitude to the table when roling mafia and I didn't see it at all d1, and only very little sparks of it d2. well it doesn't really matter since you wont be able to get me lynched even if you do try since this game now has my full attention. Since your not lynching me want to kill hasy with me? | ||
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On March 02 2013 00:09 Toadesstern wrote: Awesome, so I explain it and the answer is "well it doesn't really matter because noone listens to you anyways"... yeah not exactly what you said but that's about it. And you still don't understand my point of view for not caring at all? For people who don't know about it, read TL Mafia LVIII, the exact same thing happened, everyone got suspicious about me for bullshit reasons, I ended up saying "well if noone is willing to listen to me might as well lurk for the next 48 hours, see you at deadline, here are my reads I've got:XXXX". VE got in the thread telling people I claimed mafia if said post and that everyone needs to lynch me because town-toad would not ever post like that, they lynched me, I flipped town, we lost the game. Just saying. i was there i remember dont understand why your bringing it up because who cares. who do you want to lynch if not me? | ||
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On March 02 2013 00:18 Toadesstern wrote: About hassy: The reason I'm ignoring him is that he kind of slipped while playing dota yesterday and I've got information I should not have. Around deadline I said something along the lines of "lol, they shot VE, not even mad" while skyping with him and Wiggles (as always when playing dota) not thinking about it and well Hassy answered something that either was a blatant towntell or a blatant mafiatell for me. Not going to tell which one. I can't really ignore it when trying to analyze him so I'm ignoring him altogether and won't help on that matter. I shouldn't bring it in the thread because I'd consider that to be unfair. .............................. tells me this though unvote toad | ||
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On March 02 2013 00:18 Toadesstern wrote: About hassy: The reason I'm ignoring him is that he kind of slipped while playing dota yesterday and I've got information I should not have. Around deadline I said something along the lines of "lol, they shot VE, not even mad" while skyping with him and Wiggles (as always when playing dota) not thinking about it and well Hassy answered something that either was a blatant towntell or a blatant mafiatell for me. Not going to tell which one. I can't really ignore it when trying to analyze him so I'm ignoring him altogether and won't help on that matter. I shouldn't bring it in the thread because I'd consider that to be unfair. dr.h do you think scum could write this post? | ||
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On March 02 2013 10:55 Chezinu wrote: Yes, Justice! How fast are your hands Wade? come on man you know you would do your little secret message if you were town they are no where that i see i just see you little wifom list. | ||
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On March 02 2013 11:02 Chezinu wrote: The signals are there and they have been quoted. do you have a guide for those of us that dont speak chezinu? | ||
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On March 02 2013 23:41 layabout wrote: why the hell is a 142 day2 thread in the yellow? Because we caught scum and are patting each other on the back and smoking cigars. Also its the weekend | ||
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On March 02 2013 23:53 MilkSuckler wrote: As Chezinu lynch is set, and the thread has died.. we may as well try to get some scum hunting back on the road. Restraining Order Your filter in summary
This is one of your last posts Now that over 72hrs has passed, can you please update who your top 4 scum reads are. I presume prome is replaced by Chezinu. Hence, if JJ/Geript/Vivax are still the other 3, can you please provide some dot point reasoning on why. I approve this post doesn't look like restraining cares about town. | ||
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On March 03 2013 08:33 Wade Fell wrote: I don't care if someone else masoned Chezinu, what matters is that chezinu is scum. Someone else's poor choice of mason partner is not my problem. if we read the logs we will be able to tell for certain if he is scum or not | ||
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On March 03 2013 08:35 WaveofShadow wrote: See then here's the issue...you probably need to die either so way so we know you're telling the truth? If so it means we may have mafia mason or JOAT on our hands....ugh. I dunno I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not switching. we can tell by the logs easily if he provides them | ||
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On March 03 2013 08:54 Chezinu wrote: Chezinu: it had to be done Chezinu: I had to shoot first Mason: lol Chezinu: Dr. H threaten to have somone shoot me Chezinu: the mafia is going to shoot me with their merc Mason: why would you shoot the milkman though Mason: thats not even the guy you are arguing with Chezinu: "Gettin' real tired of your shit, Chez" Chezinu: lololol Chezinu: no one believes me Mason: haha here is part of a log ok, so maybe I did shoot without my mason knowing...lol ...... | ||
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On March 03 2013 09:07 geript wrote: Well I think that I don't need to check this thread anymore. great attitude!!! | ||
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now before you go wifom wifom wifom it really isnt it would ahve been much more advantageous to kill a "town" hasy from chez's pov. When you add the whole "cheating thing with toad i think it a strong likelihood that hasy is mafia. | ||
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On March 04 2013 05:02 TestSubject893 wrote: You're clearly referencing something specific I said, but I don't know what and its causing me to have trouble interpreting your post. Can you be more clear on what is "because" of these things? Hassy is going to get modkilled. It would have been a waste of his bullet. i don't think your seeing what im trying to say | ||
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On March 04 2013 06:18 layabout wrote: Well he doesn't think it's worth explaining why he is certain RO is scum. What kind of townie would do that? Especially a townie that expects to die. an annoying one. but ro filter is pretty bad he could be bother to check in and vote chezinu but has been totaly absent otherwise. looks like scum just piling onto a bus. | ||
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On March 04 2013 09:34 JungleJorge wrote: I want to know who was roleblocked. I don't understand why scum wouldn't block either me or vivax if he is town. It wouldn't be the first time vivax shot his mafia buddy. Something to consider. thats not something to consider for a very long time. he could have just shot me and nobody wold have blinked. | ||
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On March 05 2013 00:03 iamperfection wrote: hasy hasnt posted since February it is now march. will he be modkilled? | ||
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howeer geript lasts posts seem to be testing the waters in whether he should bother in making a case or not. that is scummy to me. | ||
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ya im saying your last few posts are supers scummy just post your case instead of bitching. | ||
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On March 05 2013 11:09 MilkSuckler wrote: Agreed in full. hence the deadline. So after this flip TMM, whose your next target? if gerpit flips scum i believe hasy will flip as the final scum. | ||
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On March 05 2013 13:03 geript wrote: Either way, moving forward I prefer lynches on WoS, TMM, Vivax in that order. you know why your mafia? becasue you refuse to have any discourse with town what so ever in your reads. If your town you should be trying to convince me why those players are mafia. as for me you could ask me questions or try to explain why im mafia so i have something to respond to but no you just want to show your position you have no real intention in hunting scum. This is why i tihnk your mafia because you seem to hae no interest in actually figuring out alignments nor wish to push those reads in order to lynch scum. You just say these are scum and then just spam nonsense for no reason. like it would be so easy to make a case against me if you wanted to you could just say something simple like iamp usally gives a shit about town it doesn't look like he cares that much or something along those lines. Instead you say these guys are mafia and fuck you town you intend to have no discourse what so ever with the town. if you are town why not just talk it out? | ||
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On March 05 2013 13:50 MilkSuckler wrote: Hi TMM. Congratulations on what I assume is to be your first post this game exceeding more than 2 lines  Well done. implying more than one or two lines is necessary. | ||
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Hasy being scum supports the idea of a scum team that has given up who takefully dies later today geript still refuses to talk about anything really besides feeling sorry for himself. That is where i believe the final scum are. | ||
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On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote: Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.) I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement. Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that? I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following: Wade Fell + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote: It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt. A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote: of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded. geript + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote: the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature Here a list of DrH where he agrees: layabout JJ geript testsubject vivax + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote: Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines. Toad scum/3rd party again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote: Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more. However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid. If you were town you would not want this man in office. Toad is scum / third party geript again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote: geript is scum so fear him you should not Chez scum/3rd party + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote: This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia. I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red. Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid. I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture. I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it. Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case. And his death post: If you just look at the posts i quoted isolated, geript is clear winner with 4 posts about him. I do think we can find scum if we look at what he posted because there must be a reason why he got killed. He mentioned the following people (number of times they got mentioned): geript (4) toad (2) chez (2) JJ (2) layabout (2) hasyy (1) jcarlsoninv (1) wade fell (1) vivax (1) testsubject (1) Summuing up what someone else did is super scummy becasue it is a great way to look like your contributing when your really not. if people wanted to see what vayesh had said in the game they could just read his filter rendering this post by glurio pointless besides making himself look like contributing. On March 04 2013 08:45 glurio wrote: That is such a weird post. I really don't understand it. Sorry for not being here much this weekend. RO does look pretty scummy. But so does geript, and if we follow vayesh's reads (he was right with chez too) he should be lynched tomorrow imo. And yes i believe jcarlsoniv is a good vig shot. He also continues ti hide behind a dead mans read instead of his own. This is scummy becasue he dosn't want the responsiblity of putting his own thoughts out there and ants to use the wieight of confirmed town to support what he says. Combine this with overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch and he has an extremly high chance to be mafia. This guy should be our lynch tomorrow. | ||
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On March 06 2013 11:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't remember saying that I think Vivax and JJ hatched a plan together? I thought Chez would flip town because I honestly thought he would be a better player than that. I was mistaken. I began leaning town on JJ because of his RB claim, but after last night's shenanigans (or lack thereof - still speculating on whether or not scum sent in their actions), who the hell knows? I could certainly see Vivax being SK, and if he is, it means he'll be shooting someone else tonight. he has to shoot so his claim makes very little sense from an sk perspective he is extremely likely to be town. what do you think of glurio? | ||
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I caught scum guys lets kill him. | ||
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On March 07 2013 00:28 iamperfection wrote: why did you have a town read on me early on glurio? | ||
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On March 07 2013 00:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Good lord 9 hours and absolutely nothing. What a joke. maybe instead of bitching you can do something useful you could explain why gluiro is town based on meta because do not see a town mindset at all. | ||
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On March 07 2013 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Also, I'm suspecting at least one of our vets is mafia now. The vet/blue sniping is getting out of hand. do you just like throwing suspicion out there with no purpose or do you have someone specific in mind. | ||
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On March 07 2013 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol you mean my town read from days and days ago since I haven't looked at him since? Don't get all high-and-mighty with me. Where were your contributions during the early game? if you have something to say. then just say it or are you scared....................to say it | ||
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On March 07 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote: Macho, want to lynch WoS for process of elimination? Hes now beyond bad townie, he is incessantly walking that fine line of trolling. How does that help town? Lynch the fucker. don't like how he tries to discredit me instead of calling me scum. glurio is much better lynch in my view though and ill start the wagon of justice right now | ||
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On March 07 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote: should we policy lynch you for being stupid? how would it benefit him as scum? plus we should wait to see if there is another role block.... flood control | ||
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On March 07 2013 10:20 MilkSuckler wrote: Grush is known for being useless (e.g. Dr.H filter at the start talking about Grush) In 5 to 7 games with starsenses, it hasn't been wrong yet. I am not against policy lynchin Grush (as he is almost unreadable) BUT. would prefer to keep him to the end. Thats my 2c, others may beg to differ. this is correct. | ||
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On March 07 2013 11:00 layabout wrote: glurio almost looks scummy enough for him to be a better lynch than aqua. hence lynch aqua if you think jj is scum then you are over thinking yourself into moronicity. .... what are you saying. | ||
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On March 07 2013 13:15 Aquanim wrote: So this is Macho Man's case right? This feels pretty superficial to me. There are basically only two points - first, that Glurio went and summarised everything Vayesh said (which I admit is easy for scum to do, but I don't see direct scum motivation) and second his sheeping of Vayesh (again, easy for scum to hide behind but still). The rest of Glurio's posts are covered with a blanket "overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch" which is again true but unfortunately describes about half of the players in this game. Glurio hasn't contributed much but this case isn't enough to convince me. In fact, this reads as a pretty half-hearted attempt by a player with IamP's experience. maybe you should i dont know look at my past cases... that i have made in other games....... i dont know how anyone can read glurios filter and possibly think he is town. He is totally disconnected and hides behind dead player that is fucking scummy. | ||
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On March 07 2013 13:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ugh im not even reading properly im sorry im honestly so disinterested in this game i like the case on jcarlsoniv so ill just sheep right now why not glurio....? | ||
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On March 07 2013 13:41 Aquanim wrote: That was, what, three hours into the game? Anyway that's not the point. My point is that I don't think these two particular points make Glurio scum necessarily. Townies sometimes choose to contribute in ways that are stereotypically scummy. I'm not complaining about the effort put in, I'm complaining that I don't think these are super-indicative of scum. Which is not to say that I'm wedded to the idea that Glurio is town, just that these points aren't convincing enough on their own. Yes it adequately defines Glurio. Seeing as how it describes HALF OF THE PLAYERS adequately it's not scummy enough to convince me that Glurio is scum. tl;dr This case does not convince me. I would welcome a convincing case. I may do that. Now the bolded is an interesting point and one I will explore further. Unfortunately I think a number of townies are probably disconnected from the game following Blazinghand's one-man "wagon of justice" driving for the last two days but still. show me the other players that make a huge useless summary post and hide behind dead people. | ||
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glurios one thing he contributed is to think he is going after third party it looks like to me he has no intrest in actually finding scum.... thats scummy He is by far the best lynch. | ||
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On March 08 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote: Iamp why are you treating jcarlson as townie I want to hear why you have a townread on him. pretty sure i never said he was town but i believe glurio is the scum right in front of us and jcarl was somewhat suspicious of him earlier so that's good enough for me. | ||
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On March 08 2013 00:40 Vivax wrote: You ask him and Moc to switch their votes to glurio and now you say jcarl was suspicious of glurio earlier so that's your argument for voting him. That sounds pretty much like you have a townread on jcarl. Is it just cause he finds the guy scummy you find scummy too? Did you actually look at jcarl's filter or have any argument besides that connection? i literally have no idea what your talking about. I want people to vote glurio because he is scum that's all i want. | ||
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On March 08 2013 03:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Deal. The reason I've been avoiding it is because the evidence has really been piling up against him and I'm having a hard time admitting I may be wrong based on my earlier meta reads. Throughout the entire game his reads are simplistic but seem genuine, but then there is a lot of +1 on later on. I can't really say whether or not this is newbie indicative or what. His long post where he describes how often Vayesh mentions each person seems a really odd way of trying to determine what Vayesh's reads were; seems misguided but a townie attempt at least. How the hell is quoting somebody and saying this is what this guy said a townie attempt at anything. Its the complete opposite it a way to look like your contributing when your not. If someone wanted to get Vayesh reads they could just look at his filter. | ||
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On March 08 2013 06:33 glurio wrote: So who are your other scumreads macho man? Wave of shadow becasue he is not suspicious of you when he should be. | ||
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On March 08 2013 06:34 glurio wrote: So after you mislynch me what then? cross that bridge if it happens but at least your here talking to me give you some points for that.... also never forget i am known for shenanigans . | ||
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On March 08 2013 06:38 glurio wrote: You don't have a plan then it seems. I thought the macho man was the greatest of all time, just not the greatest scumhunter perhaps. lol what kind of townie has "plans" my plan is take in what i see and say who is scum or not. you do whatever it is you do i guess maybe you can quote some more stuff other people said and draw no conclusion from it. | ||
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On March 08 2013 06:41 grush57 wrote: I guess I'll get on the glurio wagon. Also WoS is scum. ##Vote: Glurio why do i have a sudden urge to kill you? you going to be around the lynch at all or is this all we are going to get from you? | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:13 Vivax wrote: That sounds like the way to go. If glurio flips red we lynch WoS no discussion. i have come to the conclusion with his most recent posts that his defense of glurio was actually sincere i think he is town plus he seemed pretty interested in what was going on. i just think he is wrong | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Wow wos is in full panic mode "Scum is lynching glurio to association push me after he flips red!" Yet states he thinks glurio is town Sounds to me like some prior knowledge why else would you be so paranoid about this flip i was getting the opposite vive i think he truly thinks glurio is town and that he is jsut wrong what makes you think he is panicking? | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:26 Vivax wrote: Iamp this doesn't make any fucking sense you've been calling both WoS and glurio scum lately and now you suddenly pop in and overlook an obvious slip and go as far as saying one of them is town. Who of them is town in your opinion and what made you change your read tell us everything please. called wos scum once then i called him town becasue i didn't realize he was a noob and i think looking back he sincerly thinks glurio is town and is just wrong. Never changed my stance on glurio....you reading the thread? | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:32 grush57 wrote: I had to go. Thanks for pulling the scumt rait of doing a last minute switch. My vote is staying there  wat | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:41 Vivax wrote: Well I asked why you changed your mind so suddenly exactly in response to the post where you did that (and which you are referring to now) and you said you changed your mind earlier and the post I quoted is the last post you made about WoS so either you didn't read correctly or didn't keep your read consistent and are covering it up. which one do you think it is dear? | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:47 Vivax wrote: Oh right they both suck for you. Sucks for you I guess. whatever you say buddy, I changed my mind that is not scummy. Maybe in whatever world you play in it is but in this one it is not. | ||
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On March 08 2013 08:54 Vivax wrote: Changing your mind is ok what matters is that the reasons you do it for don't have a purpose only useful to scum. If the second scumread of yours defends the first scumread of yours and you give the second scumread a townread for that, afterwards proceeding to handle my question in such a way then it does look like you are hiding something, likely related to geript's alignment. so then explain the reasons how me giving a town read on wos helps me from a scum perspective. | ||
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On March 08 2013 09:09 Vivax wrote: gg glurio. Look into what I just wrote about iamp. Think of implications about his alignment, post them. Spoilered for spoilers + Show Spoiler + You are scum pushing a townie and a townie defending him and the first townie is about to get lynched. The second townie will look much better after the lynch. What do you do when you know you can't call the second townie scum any more after the flip? You defend the second townie beforehand to look a little better before it's too late. implying that someone defending a townie that is going to die anyways means anything | ||
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