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On February 27 2013 10:14 ObviousOne wrote: My short list
Prom - self explanatory, and why I'm voting VE or DocH for mayor layabout - instigating arguments instead of just ignoring the shit that apparently doesn't matter anyway Restraining Order - too restrained JungleJorge - crazy fucking plan to trap Prom Grush - Starsenses seems to be broken
Okay, having filtered ObviousOne, this is like literally his only "concrete" contribution the entire game. Nowhere else does he say who he thinks is suspicious or why if we're to believe this post:
On February 27 2013 10:27 ObviousOne wrote: Hassy, if you consider everyone I've ever asked a question a target of mine you're going to have to explain THAT. I just want to learnify about some people.
He also said he wanted to kill Macho Man early in the game, but that was like early in the game and whatever.
So my impressions on his short list: Prom - Duh. Of his short list this is the one read he's gone into detail on why he feels the way he does. Null layabout - Could be emotionally charged, but the reasoning is bad. Null Restraining Order - Lurker. Null JJ - He summarizes his reasoning by just describing one thing JJ did. I don't get it. Scummy. Grush - Again, no reasoning - just uses grush' tagline as his reasoning. Scummy.
What strikes me about this is that after two rereads BACK TO BACK, this is what he comes up with. A lurker list, and Prom.
There's a lot of questioning people in his filter - but none of that questioning really leads anywhere. When he shadowed me in Nom, I could literally see the gears working in his head when he messaged me. In this game I'm getting nothing like that.
He says he's bored with D1. Town are presumably about to lynch like almost certainly scum - I just wonder if he's so bored why he's not doing anything constructive with his time?
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Okay I'm on the record saying that this Milkman hate is not shared by me. He's clearly posting with a town agenda in mind and trying to find scum. I'm now going to filter anyone saying they're suspicious of him cause WTF there were like 2 or 3 in a row and he's like glowing in the dark to me.
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On February 27 2013 17:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:On February 27 2013 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote: We're both pretty obviously lynching Prom. I'm not sure what you're getting at. Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine. Yeah okay. Well here's where I'm at. MilkSuckler, Toadesstern, PromethelaxClearly you've seen how Toad is trying to take credit for the Prom lynch. Milk did the same thing directly after WF's case. They have both been downright indignant about it. What do you make of that? For my part I take it as scummy. I'm town, and my thoughts when others agreed was "whew" not "That bastard is trying to take credit for what I DID!" The scrambling for acknowledgement of their contributions to the upcoming lynch reads as trying to soak up town cred to me. question: Do you consider what you said about me a scumtrait considering you know me? Because frankly you know I'm quite self centered and I don't mind not getting credit for stuff I'm doing but I do mind if other people get credit for it and I get insulted at at the same time. So I usually end up rubbing it in for said people to have some fun and to make them realize how stupid they are. As mafia I'm way more careful with controling my own emotions and you know that. I'm way more looking at stuff like that while I just don't care for that kind of stuff as town because I assume everyone knows I'm town anyways (given the skype conversations with people outside the game it isn't a far fetched call at all).
I know that self-referencing your meta is about as useful as a dick-sucking machine with an off-switch.
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On February 27 2013 17:58 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time. Pretty sure he's not town.
He's also usually a lynch candidate to spur what you're referencing and failing that there's no difference to any game he's ever played ever.
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You have no idea what you're talking about - you're clearly not even reading the thread because I said I PREFER if DocH is the mayor at this point. Why should I give a shit who you think is Mafia WHEN YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT EVEN READING THE FUCKING THREAD?
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And I'm leading in votes - that statement doesn't even make sense I think you're scum and I'm leading in votes, why the fuck would I care if you're voting for me?
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You know what this is bullshit. DocH you need to tell me right fucking now why Toadesstern isn't scum to you.
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I don't ask many questions either Vivax. Am I scum?
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Fuck this I've been staring at this thread for like 3 hours and I've been largely ignored except for people bitching about how I post. I'm done for tonight.
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I'm leaning town on Aqua.
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On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote: Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/
On February 27 2013 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Just making sure. Dat's scummy!
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I was actually the (badass) SK in Storm. 
You never responded to my question about Toad Doc. Though it was a little abrasive, I still would like a response. Toad has exhibited behavior that exhibits having an agenda - namely his insistence on being "recognized" as the genesis of the Prom lynch and (what I perceive to be) discrediting of me before I was a serious candidate for mayor.
I'd like your thoughts on Toadesstern, and I'd like you to walk me through any town read you have on him considering you're an in-thread kind of guy and not a meta guy.
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Did you read my explanation of that? Because I'm running for mayor, I'm using the lynch to try and pressure people for contribution. And in the case of OO it seems to have worked because he's tried to (from my perspective) feign contribution since. I'll admit that the more in agreement we all seem to be re: Prom, the more likely I am to lynch another of my reads - which is why I've been advocating DocH for mayor lately - but Toad specifically called it "waffling" twice...in a manner that seems to be specifically designed to anger me. He knows Mayoral strategy, he knows the power of the threat of lynch. For this reason, I think it was NOT supposed to be just an observation of my lynch preference, and WAS supposed to be discrediting me.
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Nonono, I think Prom is a spectacular lynch - and I'll be put to a choice for sure...and to be honest I'm far more likely to lynch Prom than someone of my choosing. WF had it right though, that might change the closer we get to the lynch.
I promise that if I start getting that itch to lynch someone other than Prom, I'll tell the thread. As it stands now though, he's the lynch.
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Toad do something then.
Quit complaining about how "VE pickin on me " and fucking hunt scum. Yeah, you called out Prom early on. Me too, remember? With original content, in addition to agreeing with your point. The difference is that I'm laboring to find more scum, while you're content to just ride the Prom lynch to the end and do nothing else. You're useless to town right now. if you'e town, then we obviously have a problem.
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I'm generally an advocate of doctors protecting their biggest town-read/person most likely to be shot to them. Playing WIFOM games with scum is a bad idea because scum have more info, and therefor are better at WIFOMing than we are.
Chez you never answered my question (to my knowledge) and you're still not looking for scum. I know you're capable if you're town, verily you enjoy doing so. Why are you not doing this thing now? I summoned you here to help me rid the world of darkness, not theorize about power roles.
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You know I'll fucking lynch you Toad don't test me. You KNOW I'll do it. Why are you acting like this?
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Exactly the reason I'm telling people to make DocH mayor. What was the point of saying that exactly?
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I'm not afraid of talking about the setup, but we have no information right now to do so. Right now it's just speculating on what we MIGHT have based on the OP and that's not helpful to anyone.
If you've caught up, then perhaps you could give me your impressions on the game so far? Are you in agreement with the Prom lynch? Who are your best guesses for scum based on what you've read? I shouldn't have to ask you this stuff, and I'm not interested in your excuses. I explained why I refused - because you lied about being caught up and if you intended to catch up it was pointless for me to summarize.
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They were 2 separate statements:
Skimmed OP D1 read
Are you saying you didn't say that? Because you did, and if you insist that you didn't you're lying.
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