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On March 02 2013 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
JJ, what ever happened to you being convinced that aquanim is scum?

On March 02 2013 03:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Arguing for a lynch on chez is FAR different than him being on the lynch block. People have made arguments for me being scum, but I was never really pressured either because I never felt like I was about to die.

Chez isn't some newbie with cold-feet. I'd bet money that he didn't fire because he was shaking in his boots, scared of being lynched.

On March 02 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:


But it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective either.

If chez was scum, he knows milkman is town, and that shooting him would raise suspicion. Shooting first as a scum day vig is risky because of counter claiming (which no one did).
I raised points about that in an earlier post; the scumteam seems incredibly disorganized. The Toad flip just about confirms for me that the 'bus attempt' was essentially forced upon them or there was no bus at all.

Also, doesn't scum like 3rd party roles? They make more confusion for town, and have higher chances of hitting town. So if chez thought milkman was bartender, wouldn't that be something a scum chez would want to keep around?
Chez could very easily have been lying, or as layabout suggested, he doesn't give a shit.

And Gg toad

On March 02 2013 03:37 layabout wrote:
wave do you know how much time this game takes?

what kind of person could put in so much time and not become emotionally invested?

also we aren't supposed to talk about modkills not matter how much it's tearing me up inside.

On March 02 2013 03:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:


That's like saying we don't get emotionally invested in LoL

Also, I realize my defense is basically "it doesn't make sense", but I'm just not convinced.

On March 02 2013 04:28 Chezinu wrote:
I think it would be time consuming to point out the flaws in people accusations at this point such as activity level =/= alignment. That just states how busy someone is, people just think I'm scum because my activity is similar to my last game which I was mafia. If you want a fair assessment you wouldn't just look at my recent games. If you know me, the majority of the games I am mafia - I was extremely acitve in thread - similar to that of town. Activity isn't an indicator.

I'm not going to bother with that. I've been saying that for far to long and people only listen to me post game. I'm just going to make my list and you can accept it or not. I have no grounds to ask for mercy at this point.

On March 02 2013 06:35 geript wrote:

This looks like a scum slip to me. Like someone in scum QT wrote there are 2 vigs (referring to Chez/Vivax) and he came over here with the assumption of 2 night vigs.


I had the feeling before that WoS was scripting things. After thinking about Chez more, I buy him as town day big. I think he's right on with his list.

On March 02 2013 14:38 geript wrote:

Are you dumb? You think I'm Chez's scumbuddy aye? Then why aren't you voting for me instead? You're a good enough player to actively think. If Chez had a second shot (as scum), then he likely would've taken if it were available. As there is nothing in the rules that I see against firing twice in one day (you can correct me if I'm wrong), then I think he would've taken it as scum. If you think that we're scum buddies, then you SHOULD be voting for me. I thought you were a good plaery BH? If Chez is scum and out of bullets, then you should be removing my scum role from the game. This is pretty shady either way.

I'm suspicious of almost everyone at this point and quite frankly I don't give a fuck about this game anymore; all this game is is a vet circle jerk anyways. I still think the Doc's not town; I dropped the Doc case because I thought I had a much stronger case on VE. I was wrong. Who cares; I don't. I was happy when I got 1 case right in the last game. I still think WoS is scum. I still think VE was talking about talking about WoS. The tend to push what's my strongest read at the time. You don't like it, deal with it. Since the only way I see to push my reads at this point is prove their reads wrong, then PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!!!

Note: If you think that Chez is scum and I'm not, then you need to vote for Chez. But if you think that we're both scum, then VOTE FOR ME!

On March 01 2013 04:37 geript wrote:
Dr.H I have you on null plus now after rereading your posts. A liar, ok, but that in and of itself isn't damning and not enough to get you lynched. While I'm not fond of lying in this game in general, I can at least admit to it's usefulness at points. You're keep your own council as is evident by your posts.

Yes I thought about both of you being scum, but both of you being scum makes very little game play sense in the long term as I would expect (as town) you'd be likely to be targeted early or reasonably early. I forget which game it was that I had read previously, but it's like the unwritten rule about Marv; in LYLO, lynch Marv. Makes very little sense in any regard to have 2 people run, passively or actively, for mayor/pardoner. Of the two, VE looks far more like scum to me than you.

On March 01 2013 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm with you but I'm kinda under direct attack right now. I doubted it before but the absolute tenacity of this reeks of "I'm just under orders".

On March 01 2013 05:46 geript wrote:

So are you trying to say now that your capsrage wasn't a planned move to try and move Dr.H into the mayor slot intentionally?

On March 01 2013 03:50 geript wrote:
You're trying to suggest that it's malicious misrepresentation at worst and in the least you're saying that it's totally off base while wholly twisting your words. Anyone who actually reads your filter will see that you've lied left and right about everything.

On March 01 2013 04:15 geript wrote:
Let me reiterate, to call the logic as being bad (in the least) without addressing it in specific is just calling someone stupid. If you want to defend yourself, then point out where I'm wrong. Point out how you haven't been trying to grab pardoner all of D1. Point out where you have been "100% deadset on lynching Prom" only to back out at the last second and later admit that you considered pulling shennannies because he was such a solid D2 lynch. Yes, you've told the truth at points too; I didn't say that you haven't been truthful at all. Just that you've wholly lied about your intentions left and right and that you are not to be trusted.

On March 02 2013 14:38 geript wrote:

Are you dumb? You think I'm Chez's scumbuddy aye? Then why aren't you voting for me instead? You're a good enough player to actively think. If Chez had a second shot (as scum), then he likely would've taken if it were available. As there is nothing in the rules that I see against firing twice in one day (you can correct me if I'm wrong), then I think he would've taken it as scum. If you think that we're scum buddies, then you SHOULD be voting for me. I thought you were a good plaery BH? If Chez is scum and out of bullets, then you should be removing my scum role from the game. This is pretty shady either way.

I'm suspicious of almost everyone at this point and quite frankly I don't give a fuck about this game anymore; all this game is is a vet circle jerk anyways. I still think the Doc's not town; I dropped the Doc case because I thought I had a much stronger case on VE. I was wrong. Who cares; I don't. I was happy when I got 1 case right in the last game. I still think WoS is scum. I still think VE was talking about talking about WoS. The tend to push what's my strongest read at the time. You don't like it, deal with it. Since the only way I see to push my reads at this point is prove their reads wrong, then PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!!!

Note: If you think that Chez is scum and I'm not, then you need to vote for Chez. But if you think that we're both scum, then VOTE FOR ME!

On March 01 2013 04:37 geript wrote:
Dr.H I have you on null plus now after rereading your posts. A liar, ok, but that in and of itself isn't damning and not enough to get you lynched. While I'm not fond of lying in this game in general, I can at least admit to it's usefulness at points. You're keep your own council as is evident by your posts.

Yes I thought about both of you being scum, but both of you being scum makes very little game play sense in the long term as I would expect (as town) you'd be likely to be targeted early or reasonably early. I forget which game it was that I had read previously, but it's like the unwritten rule about Marv; in LYLO, lynch Marv. Makes very little sense in any regard to have 2 people run, passively or actively, for mayor/pardoner. Of the two, VE looks far more like scum to me than you.

On March 01 2013 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm with you but I'm kinda under direct attack right now. I doubted it before but the absolute tenacity of this reeks of "I'm just under orders".

On March 01 2013 05:46 geript wrote:

So are you trying to say now that your capsrage wasn't a planned move to try and move Dr.H into the mayor slot intentionally?

On March 01 2013 03:50 geript wrote:
You're trying to suggest that it's malicious misrepresentation at worst and in the least you're saying that it's totally off base while wholly twisting your words. Anyone who actually reads your filter will see that you've lied left and right about everything.

On March 01 2013 04:15 geript wrote:
Let me reiterate, to call the logic as being bad (in the least) without addressing it in specific is just calling someone stupid. If you want to defend yourself, then point out where I'm wrong. Point out how you haven't been trying to grab pardoner all of D1. Point out where you have been "100% deadset on lynching Prom" only to back out at the last second and later admit that you considered pulling shennannies because he was such a solid D2 lynch. Yes, you've told the truth at points too; I didn't say that you haven't been truthful at all. Just that you've wholly lied about your intentions left and right and that you are not to be trusted.

On March 02 2013 15:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm kind of tired and actually not completely sold on Chezinu, I can't imagine an invested townie would play the way he is playing but what a game we're having. Toadesstern gave up on the game like 2 hours into the day because I accused him and voted for himself, it's really bumming me out. I can't help myself when there is a setup issue like this I'll second-guess myself in circles over and over and over again like a dog chasing it's own tail. Still can't figure why he'd accuse me considering I'm the only vocal townie to actually defend him in any meaningful way. I'd rather lynch Geript for today personally because I have clearer thoughts about that.