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On March 01 2013 03:31 geript wrote:
The case against VE:

1. He's a liar. He's lied about almost everything he's said. He's running for mayor, but he doesn't want to be mayor. I documented this quite well in my previous post so I'm not going to bother continuing with it here.

On March 01 2013 03:31 geript wrote:
2. He didn't want to remove the pardoner position at all. As of 7:03 we had 7-6-6-5 vote distribution. Not only is there what like 2 hours to consolidate votes on Prom, but we get a clear leader of VE with 9 within 15 minutes. Right before this post:

Plus Dr. H adds his vote around 7:30. Didn't VE say that he never wavered in wanting to lynch Prome? Didn't VE say he wanted to be pardoner to keep it out of scum's hands? Why not try and force the issue of getting to solve both goals? Lynch Scum, prevent pardoner shennannies. But no, he's wholly against any reasonable attempt to remove the pardoner.

That's right folks, there's a clear pro-town plan to wholly remove pardoner and Prome in one fell swoop and VE doesn't want to go for it because it required getting 3 people at max to put votes on Prome. There were multiple people on. There were multiple people paying attention. No reason to think that this plan wouldn't work. VE wanted to keep the pardoner in the game solely so he could be pardoner.

Any bull about vote switches to move Prome into Mayor are completely insane as those people would be vig'd and/or lynched ASAP.

On March 01 2013 03:31 geript wrote:
3. He has made multiple attempts at trying to grab the most pro-scum role.

On March 01 2013 03:31 geript wrote:
4. He's playing scared.

I want to highlight this section in particular. Other than the blantant lies, Prome brings up two separate points:
A. That he's not afraid of doing unorthodox things
B. The town majority on Prome was there (aside: even if there were more people like myself who were null-to-null-minus leaning on him, most everyone in the least thought the case had merit and it was an acceptable lynch)
His solution to this situation is to "step down"? Stepping down isn't in VE's personality at all; he's Type A personality all the way. He wants to be in the driver's seat. He wants to flash his epeen and gloat left and right. He wants to not only be able to have his pick of the litter and still be able to lynch Prome later.
So why not take his target where he pleases? Is he not going to trust his reads? That's pretty easy to rule out due to personality. Is he trying to bend to the will of the people? Maybe, but as he stated, that doesn't fit him. He doesn't give a fuck what other people think of him. Is he scared of the repercussions if he didn't select Prome? Damn right. His goal is survival; nothing less, nothing more. When he got 'stuck' with Mayor he chose the option that would put the least pressure on him. He's avoiding.

Day vigs wait to do your job until morning.

On March 01 2013 05:17 TestSubject893 wrote:


Then why didn't your change in vote also have a comment about how you think everyone voting for you should vote someone else? Your change in vote dismantled any chance of killing the pardoner specifically because of the way you did. It created a more chaotic atmosphere and made it likely that you would end up pardoner if things didn't change.

Were you just not thinking about the consequences of your actions, or what?

On March 01 2013 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
To be clear, Geript, even though you probably don't care (and neither does anyone else, regarding the response to my case, SIGH) there is something I'm looking for to make you seem less scummy to me and so far I'm not seeing it.

On March 01 2013 06:05 grush57 wrote:
*Lurk*
lynchgursh now
*lurk*
vig grush
*lurk*

Who am I?

On March 01 2013 06:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

I'm not intentionally ignoring it, I just haven't been able to sit down and read for more than like 20 minutes at a time.

On March 01 2013 06:09 grush57 wrote:


but doesn't both starsenses and voting VE indicate me being town?

On March 01 2013 06:10 Vivax wrote:


Lol I didn't laugh so hard for a long time at someone using arguments like these to strengthen his case. First time I see someone using his rl qualifications to say why he's right in a game.

Hey VE I'm sorry to tell you, but some guy who worked in high risk psych for so long thinks there's something wrong with you.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 01 2013 06:14 geript wrote:

I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this. This is blatantly false and reeks of just trying to stir the pot. Type A personality is just that; there's nothing right or wrong with it. While sociopaths tend to have type A personalities, there's been no direct links or clear causation (just correlation). Saying someone is Type A is no more a slam or saying that something's wrong with him than saying someone is meek and mild.

On March 01 2013 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

It's like him to get really offended by criticism and throw everything he worked for out the window. I'm still unsure about his attitudes, why he would drop his convictions to support a lynch he wasn't 100% determined on, but VE approaches this game from a headspace I don't really understand. Right now, I'm more concerned about Toadesstern. I'm convinced that Promethelax was a bus that was planned much earlier than we might think and the fact that Toadesstern used that lynch to arrogantly pat himself on the back and yell about his town cred is very suspect to me.

On February 27 2013 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Toad

I still don't like how he's all "WTF this Prom lynch is MINE everyone is sheeping ME". If Prom flips scum I'm going to be instantly more suspicious of Toad, not less, considering the fact that A) he's been actively trying to take credit for the Prom lynch and B) Prom clearly had something planned for this phase where he'd be AFK for a long period. "Yeah guys just bus me" is exactly the kind of thing that gets typed in QT's when that's the case.

He's done no scumhunting BESIDES his pressure of Prom at the beginning of the game - if he's so certain of Prom, why is he not in here actively trying to find Prom's team? Why is he doing nothing but ride this Prom lynch to its conclusion?

Ultimately I'm still leaning scum, but his suggestion at the beginning of the game wasn't a bad one if we can pull it off. I want to see more from him.