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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 03:07 Acrofales wrote: Why? And why are you not answering my questions? If you think Hapa is mafia, why do you have a problem with him dueling? I'm not answering your questions because I don't see the utility in doing so. I laid out my reasons for calling him mafia and his response doesn't really change my mind. | ||
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yamato77
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However, in the second quote, you see a different mindset altogether, one of excuses made for the lack of scumhunting he's actually done today. Town Hapa is paranoid, aggressive with his scum reads. This Hapa is not, and is scummier for it. | ||
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yamato77
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I'm pretty sure that guy's town, and it had nothing to do with agreeing with me. Your attack in him does seem to hinge on that point, that somehow his bravado is scum motivated, which would imply that mine was too, because I did it first as you pointed out. Honestly, I want to see Keir hang. Someone make it happen. Sylencia is another one I could live without right now. My null reads from earlier have returned to the thread and done fuck all to make me think they're townie. Time's a wastin' | ||
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yamato77
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Still keeping a watchful eye on you two. And Alderan with his horrid list post that was neither organized nor coherent. | ||
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yamato77
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I don't see it. Just because he won't have to back it up doesn't mean it doesn't have town motivations. And as I asked earlier, if this is your argument, why dies it apply to him and not me ? | ||
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yamato77
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Going to have to sit on this for a while. | ||
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yamato77
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I don't think a town Adam has as little forethought as to make a decision like this one and duel someone on a whim. While I proclaimed that I would duel my scum reads, I never intended to do so unless I felt like it was necessary to secure a lynch, which is not how I think the situation was playing out today, lest I would have done so myself. This action is quite anti-town. However, it does make a lot of sense if Adam is mafia, because this has pro-mafia written all over it. Over-aggressive, OMGUS, and discussion haltering in nature. Also, while he's putting himself on the line, he's doing so IN LINE WITH THREAD SENTIMENT, which was that Keirathi was mafia, and Adam was the town. Just like in Nomination, mafia are wont to do things that seem risky and townie, so long as the real risk is low. The only reason I honestly thought Adam was town before this was because his mafia reputation is super easy to catch and lurky as fuck. I don't know how to read him now, but I think he's a better lynch than Keir, simply for the act of dueling him right now. If he's town, it was a colossally stupid thing to do, and it doesn't make me any more convinced that Keir is mafia, nor has he done a whole lot of in-depth analysis to prove this point. ##Vote: Adam | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:31 Adam4167 wrote: How was this horrible? I think hes scum, he's suspicious of me (but not directly calling me scum). Half the town thinks hes scum, half the town has me null or worse. It should provide a wealth of information, if not a scum death. This is exactly the opposite of a "wealth of information" What you did was neuter the normal "day period". Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:40 Adam4167 wrote: When I put your last post alongside this quote... something doesnt add up. I did not mean RIGHT NOW. Like, not at all. This was bad timing to do so. If I really wanted to see him lynched, I would have dueled him myself, but the proof isn't there, and his responses to my prods are townie responses, not scummy ones. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:43 Adam4167 wrote: Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile? Yeah. OK. What I quickly realized was that you're more likely mafia than town for doing this. That's what that post you're trying to bury says, you know. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 16:37 Keirathi wrote: Not necessarily to look townie later, but that he gets to use the argument "Look guys, Im town because I did something abnormal!" The difference between you and him is that you aren't in here making that argument for yourself to buy town cred. Other people have made it for you. If someone else had said "I think Adam is probably town because he was willing to propose his own unique idea rather than just blending into the town sentiment" I would have probably agreed with them. But for Adam himself to say it triggers my paranoia reflex. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:46 Adam4167 wrote: I'm not burying shit. Its right there for everyone to see. My mafia play is lurky and passive, its right there in Hero mafia for everyone to see. If you think this is my mafia game, you're delusional. That is literally the only point in your favor right now, Adam. The only one. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:51 Adam4167 wrote: The only point in my favor is that i'm playing completely opposite to my scum meta? MMM GEE, SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD POINT TO HAVE IN MY FAVOR. It's only a free-pass for so long, dude. At some point you have to judge people independent of their meta, which is what I'm doing. Your play here is mafia-motivated, as I've clearly outlined. You're not even arguing that part, you're arguing that you're somehow confirmed town because you aren't playing passive, which lets me in on the psychological mindset you have. You're concerned here with proving that you're town, not with proving that Keir is mafia, and that is exactly what Keir accused you of before. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait ok yamato, Why is adam scum, and Keir town. GOOOOO Read, Oats. For once in a game with me, read my posts, and think. It's fucking THERE. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 26 2013 17:56 thrawn2112 wrote: is this the townie response? he buddies you and puts words into adam's mouth. (afaik adam never actually directly tried using that logic to give himself townie points... there is only keir's accusation that that was what happened) On February 26 2013 14:30 Adam4167 wrote: Now that my internet is recovered: I fully support this duel between Thrawn and Keirathi. Thrawn is taking ownership of his reads, something I mentioned yesterday, I respect that. That case against me was god awful, stinks of nothing-scum-case. It does nothing to illustrate why i'm scum, only that I was using logic that shows I think i'm town and everyone else should think it too. | ||
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yamato77
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Hm. Okay, we'll see about that. If you really think Keir is mafia, I expect some form of analysis that isn't "I think he's mafia because he thinks I'm mafia" when I wake up tomorrow. Otherwise my vote will be well-placed. | ||
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Both people scumhunt other people and we choose the least believable after the fact. Let's do it. | ||
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