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Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 08:53 GMT
#1570
Hmm
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 09:04 GMT
#1571
Ya. I think Dieno's the right lynch here.

I want to hear more from Sylencia, but Dieno's case on him just seems way too fake. Pretty much everything Dieno's said seems fake.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 09:07 GMT
#1573
Also, in regards to yamato's case on Acro: I agree, pretty much entirely.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 09:08 GMT
#1574
On March 01 2013 18:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is that all you got from 247 posts?

Who is scum snarfs and why? You have been not involved in this game and town needs you. Unless you are scum. :D

Sorry Oats, I'm tired and want to go to bed haha.

For now, Dieno.

To look at: Acro, Cora, zarepath.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 15:16 GMT
#1600
On March 01 2013 18:23 Acrofales wrote:
@Snarfs: Yamato gives a hypothetical for why my actions this game can be explained as scum. However, here is a town explanation:

I refused to believe Adam would do something that stupid as town, so I first saw him as scum, and later as a 3P to explain it. I was (probably) wrong.

Now tell me why Yamato's explanation makes more sense and what in my filter actually pushes a scum agenda, rather than a town one.

That, and a ridiculously high standard for my D1 reads are all I have found in anybody's suspicion of me.

I know the reasons why you might be town Acro. I'm just trying to figure out if I can believe that you actually believed that.

I'm warming up to it, like I did in warming up to Adam being town after his duel.

I still need to look into those other players more. I made notes while catching up yesterday and when I have time I'm going to go back and reread some things into those players I listed as they stood out the most in my mind for various reasons or another.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 17:05 GMT
#1617
On March 02 2013 00:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Syl: If we lynch Dieno, we are going to know his alignment. The problem with finding out his alignment first is that it is going to open us up to a ridiculous amount of association cases between me and you. Do we really want that? I don't think so.

What do you mean by this? What are the association cases?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#1630
On March 02 2013 02:12 Acrofales wrote:
Anyway, I've caught up on Dieno and Sylencia's filter and found nothing new. I am up for lynching Dieno. However, I do still want to hear from Zarepath and Snarfs what their opinions are, so lets lay off on the voting.

I've already said I'm voting Dieno. Just waiting for zare's input as well.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 01 2013 19:20 GMT
#1632
On March 02 2013 04:11 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 04:04 Snarfs wrote:
On March 02 2013 02:12 Acrofales wrote:
Anyway, I've caught up on Dieno and Sylencia's filter and found nothing new. I am up for lynching Dieno. However, I do still want to hear from Zarepath and Snarfs what their opinions are, so lets lay off on the voting.

I've already said I'm voting Dieno. Just waiting for zare's input as well.


We're at 5 votes right now correct?

4? Adam thrawn oats Yamato for dieno; Cora for syl if I can count.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 02 2013 00:09 GMT
#1654
On March 02 2013 08:47 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 08:03 Acrofales wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 02 2013 07:43 Acrofales wrote:
In fact, that whole Zarepath post makes me think he's scum and wants to steer this ship into a double mislynch. But lets verify that by killing Dieno.

1. The reads don't add up. Firstly he says he prefers Dieno. Why? He's been after Sylencia's blood all game, yet somehow before the duel started his strongest scumread flipped to Dieno. And something since the duel started has made him less sure of Dieno. It just all seems like a hastily thrown together justification for wanting to double-lynch.

There is no reasoning and it doesn't add up with his earlier ideas.

2. "We'd know exactly who to look at from there". Lets say we double-lynch and they both flip town. Honestly, it would rock my world way too much and I have no clue who I'd look at. Except now Zarepath.

The whole post reaks of scum trying to justify being absent all day and needing to come up with the vagues possible reason to throw his weight behind a lynch.

This is true regardless of what colour Dieno flips. The post just screams scum. It screams "I don't care what happens with this lynch". That is scummy even if Dieno is scum, because with the thread sentiment it's clear he cannot save Dieno.


And I'm not scummy for wanting a double lynch?

Do you have a town read on Zarepath?


No not really, I've kind of grouped him in with the other two when it comes to their play (especially the lurking). But the fact that you think he's scummy for wanting a double lynch and that I'm not scummy for wanting a double lynch is a bit inconsistent. However, you probably have good reasons for it.

If you only lynch Dieno are you going to just ignore me and Syl and go after Zare next?

I'm still trying to figure out why you think everyone else thinks either you or Syl must be mafia.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 02 2013 07:56 GMT
#1766
On March 02 2013 16:34 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 16:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 02 2013 16:25 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll answer that for him. Either I'm town, or I'm scum that decided on the brilliant strategy of bussing all of my teammates at points where it was completely unnecessary for me to do so. Uh huh.



bussing all of your teammates instantly would be the only smart way for mafia to survive this game. everyone had been calling dieno and keir scum since their first posts.



I dispute this point.

Two people were calling Deino town and 'top 4 town' at the end of N0.

Go filter dive if you cant remember who they were.

They're the two last scum by the way.

To clarify, are you referring to yamato and Acro?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 02 2013 08:04 GMT
#1769
I'm looking forward to seeing your yamato > zare reasoning.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 02 2013 08:10 GMT
#1772
I think I've been pretty damn committal.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 02 2013 08:12 GMT
#1773
And at no point was I "pressured" by other players.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2013 02:54 GMT
#1860
How long until deadline?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2013 02:58 GMT
#1863
Thanks, I didn't want to do the time conversion myself. Hosts should use time tag...
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2013 02:59 GMT
#1864
Although, I suppose typing 12:52 KST in PST into google wouldn't have been to hard... nevertheless, I'll post something either right before I go out for dinner or right before the deadline, whichever comes first.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2013 03:23 GMT
#1865
Yea, I'll air this out now. Gotta take off for the evening and I have a soccer game tomorrow morning.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2013 03:23 GMT
#1866
yamato has to be town after that.

Why would mafia ever spend that long to paint me town? I feel like I'd be a nice target for mafia to hop on right now, especially if hapa is town.

Adam, I also think Acro is town. Look at day 1, he's the first person to call Keir, 5-6 hours after his first post with no follow up. Why unnecessarily do that?

I wanna see zare/X duel tomorrow. Still deciding on X. zare's opening night play was just so bad. He basically summarizes a bunch of things Oats does, calling them scummy then tells Oats he doesn't have a scum read on him.

On February 26 2013 01:31 zarepath wrote:
I can see scummy motivations for your posting behavior -- seeding cases but not making them, then telling other people to quit asking you about them; lots of short posts that ask things of others but don't present content or arguments yourself. I can see scum motivation for all of those things.

I'm not calling you anything; I'm looking at your behavior. I don't have to label you in order to talk about you. Feel free to make a case on me instead of just calling me scum.

He he isn't looking for scum, he's looking for scummy behaviour. Only mafia do that.

On March 01 2013 09:01 zarepath wrote:
I'm just popping in to say that I have a busy night and won't be able to check up on things much. But I'm encouraged that Syl and Dieno are here, and reiterate that I would love to see a list of their scum/town reads and who they'd prefer or not prefer to duel.

Thanks everyone for holding off on early-day duels, and nobody forget about Snarfs.

Easy push on the guy who's not saying much. But don't actually comment on my play. Just say "don't forget about that guy" ...and if anyone wants to make a case on him that'd be great.

On March 02 2013 07:00 zarepath wrote:
Hhonestly guys, I haven't had time today to keep up on the thread. I see a really easy Dieno lynch, and before the duel that would have been my inclination, but now I kind of want to double lynch just to be sure. Part of me says that we can't afford the potential double-mislynch, but even then we'd know exactly who to look at from there. And I'm pretty sure at least one of them is scum.

Soft defense of Dieno? Check.

zarepath needs to be up there.

Other guy: either hapa or Sylencia??

hapa for throwing around reads and not including zarepath until other people do.

Plus, I didn't like that there was never any follow up to this:
On March 01 2013 15:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Hm Adam, that's an interesting take on Syl. Gonna sleep on that one.


Then when he does come back he jumps on thrawn? That didn't seem right.

Sylencia: just isn't here and well, i'd prefer hapa up there but if noone agrees then my second choice would be him just to give Corazon someone to vote (kidding, but seriously, we're probably going to need to kill Sylencia at some point if we're not hitting anything with our scum reads).

That being said, at this point we're winning so hard we can afford a few information lynches... just put zare up so I have someone to vote.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 04 2013 18:51 GMT
#2065
I can't see Yamato as mafia. His presence day 1 had town written all over it. His thoughts on people have had a logical progression. Further, and something I don't think anyone's brought up yet, I believe that his play last game is drastically influencing his play this game. He is overconfident and cocky because he nailed the scum team last game and forced a concession. Why does his activity drop off from day 1 to 2? If I had to guess I'd say it was because he was wrong about the day 1 lynch and his confidence was a bit rattled. His actions can be explained completely by town motives.

Hapa's 180 on iamp looked like crap, and I said I'd lynch him from the beginning for it. Him and zare were, I believe, the only two players to attempt to call me out and use my low activity as a weapon against me despite the fact that as acro, Adam and Yamato have noticed, I am actually invested in this game.

##vote hapa
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 04 2013 18:59 GMT
#2066
To clarify the difference between hapa's switch on iamp and yamato's switches: nothing changed to match his reasoning. Iamp was being aggressive and bull-headed. Hapa thought he was scum. Iamp continued, hapa claimed that was the reason he was town. Nothing changed.
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