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Re-quote because buried
On February 13 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Guys; the vote count is seriously split
This is my idea for the situation
Some camps want a lurker; others want the scummiest person
I recommend we have 2 lynch candidates
i.e. 1 agreed representative for the lurkers
1 agreed representative for the actives
I hope this will help to consolidate votes
Thoughts?
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my thoughts on Glurio  Not much, but seems to be a hypocrite taking the easy options all the time.
I sticking to Geript regardless.
On February 13 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 06:21 glurio wrote:
I'd prefer lynching one of the lurkier players, sevryn, syl or mandalor right now. GlurioPlease detail why YOUR contributions are better than the three people listed above. I am shocked that you would turn your back on your own kind; because as far as I am concerned: YOU are a lurker, which is what I believe you are nominating the above three for. *ironic* is it not?
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On February 13 2013 08:19 warbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 08:15 Mocsta wrote:Re-quote because buried On February 13 2013 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Guys; the vote count is seriously split
This is my idea for the situation
Some camps want a lurker; others want the scummiest person
I recommend we have 2 lynch candidates
i.e. 1 agreed representative for the lurkers
1 agreed representative for the actives
I hope this will help to consolidate votes
Thoughts? I reject any active players as candidates today. It just doesn't make sense to lynch someone D1 who is trying to contribute to town. I've already given my two LAL candidates, repeatedly: sylvencia: his last post does not de-lurk him IMO, it added nothing to the discussion that hasn't already been said. I'm not OMGUS'ing him, I just think he's still effectively lurking. sevryn: I don't see a lot of value to his posts, his case on glurio makes no sense to me. he has been a little more consistent about going after glurio, and is trying to make novel contributions, so he's #2 for my LAL candidate. If you want a #3: Mandalor. Not very far behind sevryn.
Sorry warbaby but in my opinion "your thoughts are compromised" on this subject.
Because you are one of the actives that could be a candidate; and Geript is on your side as the other active
hence, your motives are gonig to be to save your ass ==> vote lurkers.
*sorry to be harsh.. im not intending it to come across as a prick*
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On February 13 2013 08:19 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 08:12 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, since it's obvious no one is going to look at my filter, here are the reasons that I've already stated why I think WB is scum:
-Claiming town way too hard
-Playing victim from XXXVI
-No actual scumhunting
-Asking Mocsta to stop pressuring him
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-Sheeping on everything that comes his way
-Hiding in the shadows after the pressure died down on him
-Saying we should vote for Sylencia because he's lurking and playing similar to the game he played scum in
(when in fact Glurio has exhibited the same behavior and multiple people have been lurking)
Everything in bold, I feel like he has continued to exhibit the behavior or has not adequately answered. Everything below the line is in my second case
Warbaby. These are the reasons I'm voting for you. You're not reading my filter. You're not taking the time to give me full answers, just OMGUSing and making emotional responses. There are others who post less who have also contributed no actual scumhunting The "why don't we both stop posting for a bit" post seems quite reasonable to me. The thread was being clouded with a ton of irrelevant yammer. The fact that warbaby has echoed others is lamentable but not unique. Sometimes you agree with a case that is presented. The fact that he wishes to vote for Sylencia is also not unreasonable. In fact, it could be construed as scumhunting. It isn't like Sylencia is a WORSE target than many other lurkers. None of what I say makes any claim to "prove" WB as town, but it gives reasonable doubt to his scumminess (IMO). As such, I still request that we lynch somebody with extremely low post-count and contributions. I feel like you are tunnelling really hard for no reason cora. I'm still willing to look at a WB lynch for sure, BUT NOT TODAY.
Mr Sno_Man;
i said this at the start of the game (I think).. and I think now is an opportune time to say it again.
Policy Lynch is never meant to occur (even town lying can be acceptable at times - e.g. "Are you JK".. Why of course not.. (lie)
Lynch all Lurkers is a concept designed to promote discussion and force activity. It is never meant to be followed through with. Think about the consequence.
(1) Lynch a scum - great of course.. but thats all the information you are left with; there is no linkage, and Day2 becomes a repeated Day1 (with perhpas more focus due to having more town reads)
(2) Lynch a town - completely fucked; again no information due to no linkage, and now Day2 is a high pressure situation
You are always meant to lynch the person with the HIGHEST chance to flip scum. Now whether this is an active or lurker is THE question.
Are you telling me; that in the filters of your top two (Sylencia and Sevryn) you can ONLY see scum motivations for the actions? If so, vote them; otherwise I think the risk is too much to gamble with.
Also, for some WIFOM (sorry).. but; if from the get-go, several have been advocating to lynch lurkers vehemently; do you not think then that scum may actaully have decided to go active blendy; instead of lurker blendy?
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On February 13 2013 08:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Personally, I think that your vote on geript looks dumb moc. I've already stated this but cmon. He legitimately dislikes you due at least in part to your play so far. He makes a case on you that I really don't think is illegitimate, although I think you are town (the case isn't retarded, although it isn't strong either). The fact that you already have him and warbaby as a scumteam rings alarm bells to me because you should know that association cases day 1 pre-flip are NUTSO BAD.
As such, I request that you MOVE your vote to something that town can agree upon. If you think that sevryn is not scum, and would prefer to lynch glurio (OR SOME OTHER REAL CANDIDATE WITH REASONS) let me know.
Thx.
I actually feel like corazon now, as in: people seem to be "forgetting" the filter.
I answered previously that I can see why you think it is association.
If it was, I would be voting warbaby > geript as first link.
My problem is the way Geript came in;
he could have defended a scum buddy or a town guy for cred.
His choice to chainsaw was suboptimal and is a very scummy action in general
His actions since then have also been sub-optimal. His actions and approach post-chain saw have been null and best and "save my scummy ass" at worse.
THAT is why i voted Geript. over warbaby. (It is not association based)
If you want to know why I kept pressuring warbaby; its because even though I wanted to back off, he kept saying shit that made him suspect again in my opinion.
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On February 13 2013 08:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Either way, if you want to lynch "blendy active" then lynch WoS imo.
Buuuuut I really would rather lynch lurkers. They have equal or greater chance of being scum anyway.
Interesting..
Why WoS instead of zarepath?
You know the more I think about the fake case, the odder I think it is
Its innovative, cant say I seen that before.. but, perhaps because, the only ppl that need to write fake cases are scum?
When he provides his "promised analysis" on the how everything proceeded, I will be in a better position to judge the actual motivation; its just something really different, and dont know how to treat it yet.
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On February 13 2013 08:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Come to think of it I'm not sure why I even responded since I'm in no danger of being lynched.
Glurio and Sylencia you have an hour left. Care to defend yourselves at all or make some sort of a case?
I have no hope for Sevryn at this point.
I dont think either of them will be present right now due to timezones.
Fingers crossed they are here before the lynch but.
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On February 13 2013 08:47 warbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 08:45 Mocsta wrote:On February 13 2013 08:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Come to think of it I'm not sure why I even responded since I'm in no danger of being lynched.
Glurio and Sylencia you have an hour left. Care to defend yourselves at all or make some sort of a case?
I have no hope for Sevryn at this point. I dont think either of them will be present right now due to timezones. Fingers crossed they are here before the lynch but. Sylencia posted like 10 minutes ago. Are you confusing him with sevryn?
Sylencia is in Australia so i know hes here (7:50am for me)
Glurio is definitely Europe, so Missing IN Action i surmise
Sevryn I have no idea; i assume europe and asleep
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Sylencia
I just checked your filter
and noticed your recent posts are defensive (perhaps due to pressure you)
What I need from you to determine alignment is not a defense; but to see you scum hunt.
I could not find a vote in your filter.Please indicate who your top scum read, and dot point why.
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On February 13 2013 08:51 glurio wrote:
I'm back, with the current events i'd much rather vote for Mandalor then for sevryn. Mandalor kinda just hopped on syls wagon, while sevryn at least had the guts to vote for someone who didn't have a vote so far and wasn't really in the spotlight.
That's something i wouldn't expect from scum.
WTF is this shit.. you come in here and just re-quote things I have been saying
On February 12 2013 14:41 Mocsta wrote:
Heck even sevryn had the balls to bust in over the top of you guys and give an opinion.
You're really starting making me want to join the lurker lynch with shit like that.
Please address the below
On February 13 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 06:21 glurio wrote:
I'd prefer lynching one of the lurkier players, sevryn, syl or mandalor right now. GlurioPlease detail why YOUR contributions are better than the three people listed above. I am shocked that you would turn your back on your own kind; because as far as I am concerned: YOU are a lurker, which is what I believe you are nominating the above three for. *ironic* is it not?
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On February 13 2013 08:52 glurio wrote:
Europe here, it's nearly 1am.
When exactly is the lynch? In one hour or two?
1hr
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On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote:
Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town.
Disagree.
You got HEAPZ of town cred because Spag was mislynched sticking up for you. Made everyone auto-assume you were town.
You maintained the town cred by being involved in discussion; but IIRC you didnt step on toes or push your own agenda =>> active blendy
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On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote:
I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following:
Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia
Out of that list my order is
(most scummy @ top)
warbaby
glurio
mandalor
sylencia/sevryn
corazon couldnt get traction on warbaby, so i wont bother going there
glurio has just been a slippery "tough mudler" all game.
Why are you treating it as "town aligned" that he built a case because he was asked.
If anything, thats NULL at best, scummy at worst.
Then he claims he built bullshit case to flush out scum; yet, this only came into light after zarepath expressed the same thing. corazon hit it on the nail; zarepath breadcrumbed, glurio didnt.
Again, NULL at best, scummy at worst.
Then he makes a list of lurkers for vote, and conveniently takes himself off the list as if his contributions have been pro-town; this reeks of scum trying to cling onto what ever wagon is taking off and not giving a two shits on who the vote is for
This is scummy at BEST, really scummy at worst.
Depending on how Glurio answers my question I addressed to him, I am seriously considering swapping my vote from Geript to him.
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OK Glurio responded
basically said.. his contributions are better than the other lurkers because
On February 13 2013 09:02 glurio wrote:
I know my alignement, don't know theres, i'm town.
##Unvote
##Vote: Glurio
Even bad town are trying to contribute, its just they dont know how to do it effectively. (Look at WoS)
That you can not even discriminate between your contributions and others, suggests you're not even trying.
Guess what, thats scummy as.
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On February 13 2013 09:40 glurio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote:
I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following:
Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia
Out of that list my order is (most scummy @ top) warbaby glurio mandalor sylencia/sevryn corazon couldnt get traction on warbaby, so i wont bother going there glurio has just been a slippery "tough mudler" all game. Why are you treating it as "town aligned" that he built a case because he was asked. If anything, thats NULL at best, scummy at worst. Then he claims he built bullshit case to flush out scum; yet, this only came into light after zarepath expressed the same thing. corazon hit it on the nail; zarepath breadcrumbed, glurio didnt. Again, NULL at best, scummy at worst. Then he makes a list of lurkers for vote, and conveniently takes himself off the list as if his contributions have been pro-town; this reeks of scum trying to cling onto what ever wagon is taking off and not giving a two shits on who the vote is for This is scummy at BEST, really scummy at worst. Depending on how Glurio answers my question I addressed to him, I am seriously considering swapping my vote from Geript to him. How is it your most scummy guy only gets mentioned once in your whole post (that is in the list you posted where he is #1)? How is it syl is on the bottom of the list although you asked him to make a case and he didn't do it? Why do you leave out more than half of my explanation out of your vote post? Where is geript, the person you voted 47 hours of D1 for in that list, or sn0 who you had as most likely scum at some point of the game?
Pretty simple.
i was responding to zarepath list of lurkers worth lynching
I want more activity from Sylencia; but I liked his reasoning on warbaby town claim WAY more than anything you have provided. I thought it was a good analysis/contribution
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On February 13 2013 09:43 warbaby wrote:
OK, the wagon on glurio is pretty wack IMO,
With reasoning like that, i could think you're not voting for Glurio because I am.
Come on, if you want to be pro-town, stimulate discussion, walk me through why my reasoning is wack
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On February 13 2013 09:42 glurio wrote:
I still stand by we can't lynch a soft-claiming blue right now.
Awesome, now I know the key to staying in the claim.
Ok, I have a role.. but I will claim it post-Night 3 K guys
SWEET, now I know I can only be NK'd and never mislynched
great thought process there Glurio...
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EBWOP: staying in the *game*
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On February 13 2013 09:48 glurio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 09:43 Mocsta wrote:On February 13 2013 09:40 glurio wrote:On February 13 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:On February 13 2013 09:02 zarepath wrote:
I'm short on time and, unfortunately, as thorough an analysis as I'd hoped. I will be voting for one of the following:
Sevryn, glurio, warbaby, Mandalor, Sylencia
Out of that list my order is (most scummy @ top) warbaby glurio mandalor sylencia/sevryn corazon couldnt get traction on warbaby, so i wont bother going there glurio has just been a slippery "tough mudler" all game. Why are you treating it as "town aligned" that he built a case because he was asked. If anything, thats NULL at best, scummy at worst. Then he claims he built bullshit case to flush out scum; yet, this only came into light after zarepath expressed the same thing. corazon hit it on the nail; zarepath breadcrumbed, glurio didnt. Again, NULL at best, scummy at worst. Then he makes a list of lurkers for vote, and conveniently takes himself off the list as if his contributions have been pro-town; this reeks of scum trying to cling onto what ever wagon is taking off and not giving a two shits on who the vote is for This is scummy at BEST, really scummy at worst. Depending on how Glurio answers my question I addressed to him, I am seriously considering swapping my vote from Geript to him. How is it your most scummy guy only gets mentioned once in your whole post (that is in the list you posted where he is #1)? How is it syl is on the bottom of the list although you asked him to make a case and he didn't do it? Why do you leave out more than half of my explanation out of your vote post? Where is geript, the person you voted 47 hours of D1 for in that list, or sn0 who you had as most likely scum at some point of the game? Pretty simple. i was responding to zarepath list of lurkers worth lynching I want more activity from Sylencia; but I liked his reasoning on warbaby town claim WAY more than anything you have provided. I thought it was a good analysis/contribution Still nothing about warbaby being on top of the list and you saying nothing on him AGAIN, even after calling you out on it.
Now it is obvious you aren't reading the thread
cora and I, have been the proponents of warbaby all game.
TOWN LYNCH THIS SCUM MUDAFARKER
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