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On February 02 2013 01:01 JieXian wrote:
No.

What if Vivax is scum with yamato and claimed for townie credit

On February 02 2013 01:06 Mocsta wrote:
I asked you questions first Djodref.

I will reciprocate once you do.

On February 02 2013 01:02 Mocsta wrote:

Your doing a lot of mediating. Time to reverse roles please.

You have said your piece on Vivax, but thats a pretty easy read to give due to straight forward logic.

On February 02 2013 01:19 Mocsta wrote:


its mocsta.

Why is Djo not SK? dont just make a rhetoric, add fact and logic.

On February 02 2013 01:24 Vivax wrote:
Yeah sure. Successfully fakeclaims miller to rush in before jay gets lynched and tells town that jay isn't scum cause he has a life and we don't.

Come on Djo

On January 28 2013 06:05 yamato77 wrote:

Hm. Unless I think Thrawn is town this makes no sense for VE being mafia.

I'll take another look at you after the flip, VE, but for now you're off the hook.

##Unvote
##Vote: Thrawn

On January 31 2013 07:35 yamato77 wrote:

His focus today has been almost solely on Jay, which is rather scummy if I think jay is town, which I do. Jay is an extremely easy target to go after as mafia. But incidentally, a lot of town has the same opinion of jay despite knowing this fact, so I can almost let that slide.

My main problem with him is how wordy and empty his posts are. He's like the antithesis of me. I'm all short and sweet and he's drawn out and boring. His most meaningful contributions this cycle have been his read on jay, but aside from that he's done little to rectify the bad logic he was using to justify his mafia read on VE N1. That same read is also why I think Djo's claim was at least partly a lie, because his continued insistence that VE was a valid target for his shot even after giving out a town read on me for defending VE makes very little sense.

Sharrant, for these reasons, is a better lynch than a jay who is matching his town meta and not his scum one.

On February 02 2013 01:27 iamperfection wrote:

He is not

moc and yamato are but they have claims and checks

show me what setup we are in djo

On February 02 2013 01:50 iamperfection wrote:

What happens when you add yamato's claim?

On February 02 2013 01:59 Mocsta wrote:

The question was in general.

I believe at the start of the thread, it was discussed miller is about 40% likely. Hence, false miller claim can be countered about 60% of the time? Correct?

If you think green check is worth less than miller claim, you think the likelihood of a green check being scum (in general), would be >>60% of the time? Correct?

As in....you think that the chance of GF being in the game is greater than 60%??

& By corollay: if Miller is present, all green DT checks are essentially moot (as worth less than the miller claim)
So if Vivax checked you, and you were green.. we could all state on your heuristic you are the Godfather

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If we extend this to my situation. If you are going to sit here and continue to accuse me of being the godfather, go ahead and make a case.

Regardless of xsksc inactivity (which he explained in full), judge me by my content - I have been contributing enough this cycle for a read IMHO.
If you dont think I have been open and transparent; if you dont think I have been trying to spark conversation; if you dont think I am scum hunting with logic; log your vote my way, but dont forget to build that case.

Otherwise, accept I am a VT; and continue the scum hunt.

On February 02 2013 02:01 Promethelax wrote:
I've been working under the assumption that one V us a single shot vig here and VV is two single shot viggies.

if we're at VVMC (which I doubt) we'd theoretically have TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer but if we have a serial killer we're only at VMC which has TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker in all likelyhood this set-up is VVC vs. TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
so final set-up would be
2 one shot vigs
1 one shot cop
7 VTs
vs
2 goons
1RB

which means Moc is confirmed town if yamato flips scum. We obviously have no doc because anyone not protecting EZ last night is a fucking retard. EZ was the only scum shot in this town and he/they were obvious townies.

On February 02 2013 02:23 Promethelax wrote:
also, unrelated to the set up. Marv knows full well that I have said many times I will lynch him in lylo no matter what that I am willing to lose a game there as town because I'm much more likely to win it as town because a town marv alive in lylo is much more likely scum than town. He also knows I am often overly suspicious of him (see CT where I was the only guy calling him scum) and that I know him better than most on these forums. With a miller claim he gets away with a lot of inactivity blamed on LIX and we don't suspect him. He knew that Hapa, VE and I were all town and he knows we know him and know mafia pretty well. I'd say miller claim was a risk he'd take.

On February 02 2013 12:50 iamperfection wrote:

Why would you ask me that.

You know I'm not good at it.

On February 02 2013 18:46 Mocsta wrote:


Why should a mass claim actually mean anything.

There has been so much setup speculation, its easy to lead town up the garden path and then swallow the "Red" pill.

On February 02 2013 19:11 Mocsta wrote:


Im not interested in being cleared by setup speculation. So thanks but no thanks.

Anyways, whats stopping anyone that is unconfirmed (e.g iamperfection) from claiming VT; you then think there is no SK; but in fact he is SK (i used this as an example.. im not inferring he is SK)

Unless you have been bullshitting something in the setup speculation to try and catch someone somewhere, I see this campaign by you as fruitless and non-committed attempts to scum hunt.

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As an aside; I am used to seeing well constructed cases by you, both aesthetic and meaningful.

This game seems different, the case(s) were list heavy, points not extrapolated; if anything, a general lack of care.
In fact, I am not even sure if the cases you have shared meet your definition of a case, as detailed to xsksc.
Do you disagree?

On February 02 2013 19:37 Promethelax wrote:
My kill was bad bro, I hit town. Should have gone with my instinct and hit Yamato but I had this mental image of Marv calling me a jubjub for shooting a claimed miller and decided sharrent made more sense.

JX why are you just sheeping me this game? I hate sheeps and people who buddy me. I'm not good enough to be steeped and I'm to good to be buddied.

Imp, you wanna show you ar e town? You keep saying you are a nerfed IC but somehow I'm not seeing it this game. You stopped trying to figure things out. Which is how people know you are town and how they should know I am town. You are spending your time saying you are town instead of being town. Remember who did that first?