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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 20:16 GMT
#1762
gonzaw and yamato are certain scum.

Toad/FT/mocsta I still have my doubts about. But FT just replaced Toad in my book. Mocsta is

gonzaw + yamato>FT>Mocsta/Toad/everyone else are my current reads.

Just lynch gonzaw and thank me after.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 20:18 GMT
#1764
On January 24 2013 04:29 gonzaw wrote:
I don't think yamato is scum, because he is heavily involved in discussions, was pretty active on D1, yet didn't seem to try and push a scum agenda (for instance get elected as scum mayor, or try to get a scum mayor elected)

Show nested quote +
Vivax wrote: two different styles of talking to his scumreads


I'm not really seeing this, but I'm not paying that much attention right now.
Those 3 quotes of town/scum games don't tell me much at first glance


Look at this post and tell me how the fuck this isn't a scumslip.

Find one instance of a situation where a townie could say this.

Even if you take away the "as scum", how is being wanting to be elected as mayor a scumtell?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 20:20 GMT
#1766
In gonzaws following post he selectively didn't talk about that damning part either.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 20:20 GMT
#1767
Or how the hell could gonzaw know who a scum mayor could be?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#1771
Bugs, austin... I expected more from you as "vets" really.

Most, if not the whole scum team reacted to something really dangerous in the last pages.

I think I'll go for some Ice fishing in Greenland.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#1775
Your head is full of shit, Bugs. I'm going to press this game into your meme-throbbing head forever.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#1789
On January 24 2013 06:05 DearestSnot wrote:
Who is the player he is talking about, and which game? If it certainly is a lie then we should just kill him for it.


Why don't you start with FT and gonzaw saying that yamato didn't post a candidacy for mayor then?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:16 GMT
#1792
I'm actually the guy who examines heads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:17 GMT
#1793
I'm curious who this second mafia is you're talking about.

Will it be a bus or another mislynch target?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:20 GMT
#1798
Nice, so we've come to define candidacy.

If it isn't "make me mayor and I do x", what is it then?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#1800
Two masons? Hear hear
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:38 GMT
#1814
Oats is a mislynch, don't do it.

You're so easily to influence Bugs, scum just plays their games with you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:39 GMT
#1815
How about this: We lynch gonzaw and if he flips town you lynch me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#1819
And what makes you think he isn't a bad townie?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:55 GMT
#1821
On January 24 2013 06:54 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 06:54 Vivax wrote:
And what makes you think he isn't a bad townie?


The fact he plays nothing like this as town is a good one. You know, the lack of suspicion/aggression that I mention in the very post you're replying to, if you're able to read.


And you see him posting such a defence of a now town JX?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 21:57 GMT
#1824
Why would mafia do that at that point?

Don't say they do that all the time, it's dogmatic bullshit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 22:06 GMT
#1830
Bugs, you are bad. I was/am observing one of your games, and I know I'm better than you at making reads just cause of that. Given how much experience you have on your shoulders compared to me, you should be ashamed of that.

This game just proves it again. But keep talking smack about me. Who laughs last laughs best.


I actually like Oats response when he said he felt forced. It's honest. He didn't try to find a shit reason or become overly emotional, he simply said what's up with him writing that.






Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 22:26 GMT
#1834
I'm simply pissed that you constantly insult me and seemingly ignored all my arguments I made about gonzaw while I think they are really good.
If you don't like things I write and aren't directed at you, then simply ignore them.

But if you start telling others to ignore them and that I'm full of shit etc. etc. , then you take away pressure from scum and allow them to do the same to me.
I'm an aggressive player, aggressive in a way that I bite and don't let go of players, I bombard them with questions that require precise answers.
I play with this style to force reads, commitments and quick decisions that can cause scumslips or mis-decisions to happen for scum.
This style isn't seen as nice by most people cause it pisses off townies, but damn I'm sure it's effective.
It's most effective when people help me creating that pressure, then I move to the next player I see as scummy and start over again.
It's useless when people start ignoring me and paint me as stupid troll.

Look, I think you are town, we both believe Oats is town, so don't let the lynch go that way cause there are people with good reputation saying so. Trust yourself on this one.

Trust me for once, just this time, I only ask for one time, look at gonzaw, look at him long and hard and from the start please. Look at him feeling super confident that he might be scum, and give town your final verdict.

When you did that, look at Oats and what he wrote about gonzaw.


If you get to the same conclusions I got to, you will see where I come from with my other reads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 22:53 GMT
#1840
Hey FT, who is masoning you? Is there a reason you aren't outing it?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 23 2013 23:06 GMT
#1843
On January 24 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
Back home

Regarding Yamato: I had town on yamato before Vivax posted his town/scum comparison, but his post did convince me to take a closer look at his meta. The followup from many players in the game who have actually played with yamato before (I don't believe I have...) saying that he's clearly town by his meta relieves me of that burden.


So you didn't take a closer look at his meta, you will just believe what others said about it?
If you did, can you give us an own conclusion?

On January 24 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
Regarding Oats: Much the way I felt about prplhz, I feel about Oats. It's not that their situations were necessarily similar. But while I, myself, haven't picked up on any particular scumminess on my own, when I read what certain people say about why he's scum, I find myself agreeing with them.


Not so fast, expand on these points. Be precise about why you think he's scum please.
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