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BinOnFire
Laos123 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I want to lynch MKFUBA | ||
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Vivax
22143 Posts
I saved scum from being lynched to lynch another scum. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 13:13 Vivax wrote: I'm an idiot. I saved scum from being lynched to lynch another scum. you realise with how hard gonzaw pushed him day 2 that's quite unlikely, right? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On January 29 2013 13:13 Vivax wrote: I'm an idiot. I saved scum from being lynched to lynch another scum. Explain | ||
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Vivax
22143 Posts
YANMM Wiggles did the same to me. I was just a complete idiot for thinking Oats is town for pushing gonzaw. On January 27 2013 18:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Well yeah I agree with annul, Cause I think he is town. There is absolutly no reason not to unvote Chez if you think that Annul is town. This isn't the only reason Oats is scum. The main reason is his activity in the other game. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 13:18 Vivax wrote: Not really. YANMM Wiggles did the same to me. I was just a complete idiot for thinking Oats is town for pushing gonzaw. This isn't the only reason Oats is scum. The main reason is his activity in the other game. oats pushing gonzaw is irrelevant, gonzaw hard pushing oats day 2 after a mafia lynch less so | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Vivax
22143 Posts
Time to ask you the famous question: Wasn't it crystal clear at the start of D2 that the lynch was between gonzaw and Oats? Where did all your reasons for voting Oats D2 go? You looked like you were the one pushing the lynch the hardest. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Vivax
22143 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 13:23 Vivax wrote: You're WIFOMING yourself pretty hard about that now. Town was dead-set on lynching Oats. Time to ask you the famous question: Wasn't it crystal clear at the start of D2 that the lynch was between gonzaw and Oats? Where did all your reasons for voting Oats D2 go? You looked like you were the one pushing the lynch the hardest. I was, but mostly I thought gonzaw was town because Oats was mafia, and vice versa. It wasn't at all clear Oats was being lynched day 2, it only really started happening when i pushed it in the second half. gonzaw could have for example being pushing annul for the first half of day 2, but he pushed Oats really hard instead. I would feel really stupid if we lynched one of my bodyguards and he flipped town after a confirmed mafia decided he was the one that he would push all through day 2 :/ anyway, back tomorrow | ||
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Vivax
22143 Posts
Sorry I thought the host would reply and confirm it or something. I think your town because of your posts, and thats why I masoned you. I think gonzaw is townie, good posts. I don't like vivax. Crazy de-lurk by mkfuba I would get behind a chezinu mayor spot. Then there's grushs early PM. This game is a giant mindfuck. | ||
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BinOnFire
Laos123 Posts
'Oh I need to think about it' | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
So, my theory is that it was mafia's intention to get chez elected mayor D1. if you read this post: On January 20 2013 23:51 austinmcc wrote: How do I feel about the mayoral election is...vague. I feel like we should elect a mayor. I'd prefer to elect someone whose judgment and reads I trust, and especially someone who I think needs protecting. There's not really much to "feel" about the election. Nor is there a need to say that, because everyone should be looking for the same qualities in their mayoral vote. I would...be mayor if I got voted mayor, but I don't see much need to campaign. If people trust me and want to keep me alive, great, and I'd take it. Overall, I kind of like the idea of electing someone NOT campaigning, or considering it. If someone doesn't campaign and has to get votes naturally, then town votes will gravitate towards the sort of person we really want for mayor. However, I'm not sure about that, because a campaign-focused election means scum has to campaign for mayor to win, be visible, whereas a non-campaign election means scum might have to vote for their scumbuddy to get a scum-mayor and provide reasoning for doing so, perhaps out themselves for later. I don't think that matters much, because (1) any scum running for mayor should be someone they feel can handle the position, and won't get outed just from being visible; and (2) don't think scum are going to go nuts connecting themselves on D1 just to get the mayor position. There's my ramble, enjoy. If I had to vote for someone RIGHT NOW, I'd vote toad or myself. Myself because I'm town and trust myself, so it's the only mayor I could be CERTAIN would be town. Toad because I've found some of his comments townie, and based on LV (I think it was LV) I know that he can be a useful townie when he has mason capabilities. OH HEY, IMPORTANT THING. Since masons choose someone each cycle and then can't mason that person again, one quality I'm SPECIFICALLY looking for in a mayor is someone I trust in mason circles. I have seen toad plot within a mason circle, which makes me think he'd be a good mayor as he can set plans in motion for LATER given only a single cycle with masons (unless I'm giving him too much credit). Mayor gets the lynch today, a vote, the bodyguards, but will also be a key person for the mason roles in this game, both town and mafia. Needs to be able to read the people who mason him, perhaps set plans/traps in motion to figure out which masons were town/mafia, as well as just generally use being the other half of most mason pairs well. I feel that that is an interesting emphasis, given what we know now. Why such strong emphasis on masons? At this point, town austin knew nothing about any masons, because he's a vet. Scum, however, were aware of at least 4 masons at this point. Chez was either aligned with or in direct communication with them. In addition, he appears to have tried to set up some kind of mason communication network that I still don't fully understand. Feasible that they were working together? Austin later feels the need to insert himself into yamato and vivax's conversation/argument/whatever they had in order to tell us that chez should definitely be a candidate, even if he's not voting for him. He says that if you are convinced he's town, he is a top choice. But he is not convinced. Either way, it's a recurring theme in his filter. After it is pretty clear that chezinu isn't getting elected, he comments on gonzaw, saying at least once that he feels gonzaw would be a good candidate, but only if you believe he is town. But austin doesn't believe he's town, so he's not voting for him. He supports their elections, as long as he isn't the one to do it. These were two scum. There's a bit more, but I've gotta head out for a bit. I'll add more when I get back. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
Yesterday you were my alternate vote if weird stuff happened near lynch, I have a question. I was wondering if yo had noticed that 2 minutes after i posted this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17584640 as i was wondering where you were (yes you did warn us in advance) On January 21 2013 09:54 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm finally back after an... interesting birthday celebration. It took me longer than I expected to get time to post. I, myself, will not be running for mayor for reasons I feel are obvious to anyone who's seen me play. After a pretty quick read through the thread, I would feel most comfortable voting austin for mayor because he's an option that I'm familiar with. ##Vote austinmcc I still have more reading to do before I get any significant scumreads, but if anyone wants me to answer anything I'll be here for a few hours. Did you get those significant scums reads... Are you a player that in your experience is likely too... If not why promise what wont be coming? | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
Did you get those significant scums reads... >the first thing I decided upon that I would call a significant scumread was vivax. I actually had my own reasoning behind it. I later decided he wasn't scum for reasons already in the thread. Are you a player that in your experience is likely too... >To have scumreads? Every so often I'll mention one. You may notice one right above your post. If not why promise what wont be coming? >See the answer above. I'm already exhausted, and I still have tons of homework to finish, so I'll just respond to these two points that FT raised. On January 29 2013 01:10 FiveTouch wrote: I'm not really figuring Chez in too heavily to my candidate considerations, he was an outlier. gonzaw/toad/austin were the serious candidates for sherriff, I don't think Chez was ever going to happen. annul, I don't really have any game-changing information or anything that would stop someone being mafia (apart from the one toad knows about). If I implied so / it read so, it shouldn't, my apologies. Chez started off alright. I think they saw an opportunity for a chez mayor. I think austin was trying to encourage the town masons to vote for chez. On January 29 2013 01:36 FiveTouch wrote: The reason that Vivax quoted of bugs is an extremely good reason not to, actually. Three major candidates for sherriff - toad, austin, gonzaw. If both gonzaw/austin are mafia then they shouldn't have been running against each other so late in the day, or they should have been giving themselves options to try to get the other into power. None of these things happened. As for this, I'll just repeat that I think they were trying to get chez elected sheriff. After that didn't pan out, they went for austin or gonzaw sheriff. Probably gonzaw, as austin said he didn't think he (austin) was the best candidate, and chez or gonzaw would be good if found townie. It was like he was trying to convince us (particularly the town masons, but could also somewhat extend to other town) to convince others that chez or gonzaw was townie enough to elect. Poke holes in what I've said, and I'll try to fill them in. It'll probably take less time than me trying to figure it all out on my own and then trying to put it into words. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 29 2013 12:16 FiveTouch wrote: I might actually start weeping. I'm pushing him because I don't understand what he did. But the argument Vivax put in the thread is a good reason annul could be town, and I'm not gonna bullshit about it. Marv it is not and you know it. We both know mocsta is town now, we know axle is town. That means there were only 2 mafais on gonzaw, one of them being gonzaw himself. Mafia didn't choose to get him eleceted for whatever reason but they could have. That reasoning could be anything like "We don't want to pile up everyone on gonzaw d1 with little / poor reasoning". That being said I think we should lynch Annul because what was said in Annuls defense can be said about EVERYONE in this game, hence rendering it pointless. | ||
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BinOnFire
Laos123 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On January 29 2013 18:07 BinOnFire wrote: So what do you think about Austin claiming vet? I am so fucking bad at this. | ||
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