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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 27 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:14 FiveTouch wrote:On January 27 2013 07:12 annul wrote:
to be fair it is possible (albeit HIGHLY improbable) that the mafia double stacked WBG in order to "confirm" BKE's redness If this is the case, the medic should absolutely claim to stop us lynching a townie. But it's almost certainly not the case. Quote1: I speculated about that option earlier as well, but to be honest they would trade a kill of a more useful townie than BKE against the mislynch of a BKE that isn't of use to town, so I think it's unlikely and would be really bad play by scum. Quote2: Medic should only claim if he saved somebody. Pointless to claim when scum double stacked on Bugs. Even if he claims we won't know BKE's alignment. With all courtesy: That's a bad suggestion.
Presumably there are two options:
1) the medic saved someone not-bugs, and if they did so, they get a notification for it
2) the medic saved bugs, thus we would know bugs was double stacked
Either way we'd know for sure whether there was 1 or 2 KP, no?
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"You will know if you saved the person. The person will know if he was saved."
does this mean that medics get notified IF AND ONLY IF 1. they chose a target AND 2. their target would have died AND 3. the medic's protection prevented that death?
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FT, counterquestion: If you were so sure that BKE is scum, then why the hell are you so interested in determining reasons for why he could not be based on the jail's outcome?
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Oh wait, I remember!We started talking about this cause you found it odd that I'm so sure about BKE now that he has been jailed.
So I presume your goal is to dissuade me from being confident into him being scum?
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Because I'm working on the basis of my/bugs/Toad's reads, whereas we can mod-confirm people one alignment or another, which is a whole different kettle of fish. And by mod-confirm, I mean either mod-confirm or out a mafia fake-claiming medic ^^
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On January 27 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:14 FiveTouch wrote:On January 27 2013 07:12 annul wrote:
to be fair it is possible (albeit HIGHLY improbable) that the mafia double stacked WBG in order to "confirm" BKE's redness If this is the case, the medic should absolutely claim to stop us lynching a townie. But it's almost certainly not the case. Quote1: I speculated about that option earlier as well, but to be honest they would trade a kill of a more useful townie than BKE against the mislynch of a BKE that isn't of use to town, so I think it's unlikely and would be really bad play by scum. Quote2: Medic should only claim if he saved somebody. Pointless to claim when scum double stacked on Bugs. Even if he claims we won't know BKE's alignment. With all courtesy: That's a bad suggestion.
BKE was jailed. That means that if he is scum they only had 1kp and couldn't double stack. Absolutely if there was a save on bugs and the medic got confirmation he should claim.
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Annul what happens to your bomb with a chez lynch? Never played with the bomber before.
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I don't think medic gets confirmation if the target dies.
But yeah, I just realized I made a mistake in thinking, forget what I just posted about medic not claiming if he targeted Bugs.
If the medic targeted Bugs we know for sure that BKE is town, actually.
Toad looked SO sure that Bugs hadn't been targeted though.
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On January 27 2013 07:47 Stutters695 wrote:
Annul what happens to your bomb with a chez lynch? Never played with the bomber before.
i lose my bomb for good, and i am essentially now a green
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(But to be frank, I hardly believe in doublestacks, I would probably never do it as scum)
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usually hatters get 2 bombs too, but for this game its only 1
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Unless it's to fake that BKE is mafia.
Hoooooooly shit
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 27 2013 07:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't think medic gets confirmation if the target dies.
But yeah, I just realized I made a mistake in thinking, forget what I just posted about medic not claiming if he targeted Bugs.
If the medic targeted Bugs we know for sure that BKE is town, actually.
Toad looked SO sure that Bugs hadn't been targeted though.
This is the thing, you get so wrapped up in your blind paranoia that you won't listen to the basic sense that I'm trying to talk about.
As to your following post, it also seems unlikely that bugs was doublestacked, simply because in this position mafia seriously need to get killing townies.
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Yeah, well whatever. We'll be lynching BKE today.
As for the other target, we should start to talk about that.
As you see, I want to lynch yamato.
Can I hear reasons for not lynching him?
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Sure. Chezinu is very likely to be mafia, yamato is not.
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Post the reasons why Chez is likely to be mafia then.
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I read your filter regarding him.
It's void of any persuasion attempts to get town to lynch Chezinu.
The things of substance you mention are: He's difficult to read; he lied about some player we still don't know about; he voted gonzaw (no one suspected gonzaw D1 except for not getting killed N1 so I don't see how that is scummy)
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Why don't you just read the multitude of posts bugs wrote on him? I can go re-post a load of those if it makes you happy.
Chezinu has no reads, he's not involved in town, and he continues to have no reads. He doesn't participate with town in the slightest, like he normally does. Chezinu is known for being a troll of sorts, but also very perceptive and with very accurate reads. Yet he has displayed absolutely none of these qualities here. What has Chezinu done for the last several days? Absolutely nothing. In addition he screwed around with the mayoral voting on Day 1, bugs found the fact he voted gonzaw incriminating, I found his general jumping incriminating (when I played mafia with him in NMM3, he did many last-minute votes). He claimed to want to kill prplhz, yet refused to vote the candidate who wanted to vote prplhz (me), claiming he didn't understand what or who was running, despite quoting a bugs quote which had him voting for me. He also canvassed for prplhz's vote despite wanting to kill him.
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Good, thanks. I'd like to hear from Chez what he has to say regarding these points.
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On January 27 2013 07:55 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, well whatever. We'll be lynching BKE today.
As for the other target, we should start to talk about that.
As you see, I want to lynch yamato.
Can I hear reasons for not lynching him?
I cant think of one
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