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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
As for your questions, I'm not sold in them being town but I do agree that the odds are incredibly likely that the scum are out of you four (I have a slight town read on mocsta because his play feels different from newbie xxxv but since the circumstances are so different I can't say he's outright town h. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 27 2013 01:55 yamato77 wrote: Debears, Adam, Vivax, Austin all not confirmed to me. Oats/Axle might be mafia but I doubt it. yeah I'd add you to the "not confirmed" list as well. There's really no reason to think Vivax is mafia but he might be playing the game of his life and if he's mafia that would explain some things but it would also mean he's incredibly good at what he's doing. Oats and Axle are both confirmed town. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 27 2013 03:23 Toadesstern wrote: yeah I'd add you to the "not confirmed" list as well. There's really no reason to think Vivax is mafia but he might be playing the game of his life and if he's mafia that would explain some things but it would also mean he's incredibly good at what he's doing. Oats and Axle are both confirmed town. that being said I still have townreads on those 6 people (debears, adam, vivax, austin, yamato and mocsta) but they're the way to go if something flips green this cycle. | ||
mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On January 27 2013 02:59 Stutters695 wrote: I see most of those reasons as valid. The first half of the game, I was kind of stymied by an "if you're right, you're right" situation. I found FT's reads incredibly compelling. I couldn't find anything I could add. I can't explain why I didn't really have any reads of my own. Things just didn't come together in my head.You're right, I was thinking of BKE I believe. Seeing your most recent thing about checking filters made me think of it. But yours isn't much better. What original reads have you done? Why should we believe you're town when you've asked a question or two, not followed it up or just sheeped a vets reads all game. I have a really similar meta to you so I understand when you can't play for a while the goal is living so you can help later, but I don't see an eagerness to help. I'm seeing all of the survival traits without any sort of care for how the town does and that concerns me because it's almost exactly how I would play scum for my first time. As for your questions, I'm not sold in them being town but I do agree that the odds are incredibly likely that the scum are out of you four (I have a slight town read on mocsta because his play feels different from newbie xxxv but since the circumstances are so different I can't say he's outright town h. In any case, I'm working on correcting my play this game (and hopefully my play for games to come). Something happened yesterday afternoon that seems to have alleviated much of my anxiety while playing mafia, so don't be surprised to see me change playstyles completely. I'm gonna plan on not writing any more defense posts until I've got someone to replace myself with on toad's list. At the moment I'm reading axle's filter to confirm his towniness for myself. @toad: do you have any responses to my questions? If any of it is some kind of extra information read based on masoning, then there's no need to explain it to me I guess. Just know that I'll be trying to go through almost everyone's filters today (D3), and if there's some undeniable proof that you could share it would save me, potentially, a great amount of time. I suppose I'll just ask to be very explicit. Oats and Axle are both 100%, undeniably, town? | ||
Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 27 2013 03:23 Toadesstern wrote: yeah I'd add you to the "not confirmed" list as well. There's really no reason to think Vivax is mafia but he might be playing the game of his life and if he's mafia that would explain some things but it would also mean he's incredibly good at what he's doing. Oats and Axle are both confirmed town. If Vivax was scum he'd be paying so far above his play in YANMM that it seems very unlikely. There are some similarities between the game but I get the impression he doesn't thoroughly read as well as he should so he misrepresents stuff from time to time(i need to verify that in his filter). It feels way different though because despite his retarded tunnel approach he is being way more open to arguments than he was. Not much of a town read on its own but between how far above his last game he'd be and that feel is enough to ignore him for now. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 27 2013 03:51 mkfuba07 wrote: I see most of those reasons as valid. The first half of the game, I was kind of stymied by an "if you're right, you're right" situation. I found FT's reads incredibly compelling. I couldn't find anything I could add. I can't explain why I didn't really have any reads of my own. Things just didn't come together in my head. In any case, I'm working on correcting my play this game (and hopefully my play for games to come). Something happened yesterday afternoon that seems to have alleviated much of my anxiety while playing mafia, so don't be surprised to see me change playstyles completely. I'm gonna plan on not writing any more defense posts until I've got someone to replace myself with on toad's list. At the moment I'm reading axle's filter to confirm his towniness for myself. @toad: do you have any responses to my questions? If any of it is some kind of extra information read based on masoning, then there's no need to explain it to me I guess. Just know that I'll be trying to go through almost everyone's filters today (D3), and if there's some undeniable proof that you could share it would save me, potentially, a great amount of time. I suppose I'll just ask to be very explicit. Oats and Axle are both 100%, undeniably, town? Sorry no time right now, have to leave ![]() Anyways I wouldn't say 100% sure, I'd say at least 90% sure though. There's a fair chance (as in a chance that isn't 0%) I'm wrong on them but I can confirm that easily myself, I just need some time and I can explain it the next cycle, so give me that time and ignore them for today. It's just wasted time as even if one of BKE / Chez is town other people are more likely mafia. And no, has nothing to do with mason powers or knowledge. See you. Might be back online around 01:00 am my time for an hour or something like that. | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 27 2013 02:08 debears wrote: 5touch Were you contacted by the mason? Indeed I was. A bit of a turnup for the books. What is your opinion from your conversations? Would it be a good idea for you to publish them? On January 27 2013 02:54 BroodKingEXE wrote: This is really unfortunate. Bad luck this week with business. I'm Mad Hatter, I'm like 90% sure I'm not going to be able to make it past the next day, so it would be better if a vig shot me tonight and I put my bomb on someone. Who is your bomb on currently? | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
I suggest you look at other people than Axle. | ||
mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On January 27 2013 04:05 Toadesstern wrote: Sorry no time right now, have to leave ![]() Anyways I wouldn't say 100% sure, I'd say at least 90% sure though. There's a fair chance (as in a chance that isn't 0%) I'm wrong on them but I can confirm that easily myself, I just need some time and I can explain it the next cycle, so give me that time and ignore them for today. It's just wasted time as even if one of BKE / Chez is town other people are more likely mafia. And no, has nothing to do with mason powers or knowledge. See you. Might be back online around 01:00 am my time for an hour or something like that. Alright, I'll stop going through axle's filter for now. I guess I'll pick through the shorter ones that I'm unsure of before I catch my train back home (I'll be afk from at least 4 to about 8pm, CST). | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
![]() I'm being a little bit cryptic, but actually entirely because of this BKE/Chezinu are our best lynches today. There is no lynching #5 today, I don't think. | ||
Chezinu
United States7432 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On January 27 2013 02:04 mkfuba07 wrote: Do you mean that both of you aren't mafia, or that you aren't? Who would you suggest we replace you with? First question kinda answered by your previous post. How about the second? | ||
Chezinu
United States7432 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
(1) Fuba On January 27 2013 01:02 mkfuba07 wrote: Anyway, I've decided that neither of you feel like scum to me, mostly based on general activity as well as voting (yamato) and something Chezinu said (mocsta). That might change if Chezinu doesn't flip red, but I'll get to that when I get to it. Explain what Chezinu said.... (2) Annul vs Chez On January 26 2013 22:19 Mocsta wrote: As for 2nd vote. I would go annul. If annul is mad hatter we take out chez who could be scum if annul is bullshitting than we take out a scum I thought the whole point of mad hatter was to become a thread influence and risk being shot; thus taking out someone... if Annul play is aimed at being a thread influence, I might as well give up on playing mafia cos I must be the retard.. (This is my assumption on how to play mad hatter, I am happy to be corrected on this) | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 27 2013 04:37 Stutters695 wrote: FT do you believe BKEs claim? Not really, it reads to me as "please don't lynch me today". He's asking to be vigid (?) even though there is no evidence we have a vigilante whatsoever. But I'd like to know who he claims he has his bomb on, at least. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 27 2013 04:31 Chezinu wrote: I just discovered what starsenses means. What? | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 27 2013 04:42 Mocsta wrote: (2) Annul vs Chez I thought the whole point of mad hatter was to become a thread influence and risk being shot; thus taking out someone... if Annul play is aimed at being a thread influence, I might as well give up on playing mafia cos I must be the retard.. (This is my assumption on how to play mad hatter, I am happy to be corrected on this) This is all based on the assumption that people are trying their hardest or playing optimally. Unfortunately this isn't the case (as with almost all mafia games). If we were lynching on the basis of townies basically not even trying to establish themselves as town, we'd have too many people to lynch. | ||
Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 26 2013 11:09 annul wrote: toad: how many town masons do you know of right now? Are you doubting someone that contacted you? Maybe FT is worth asking, he has been contacted by others? | ||
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