Dessert Mini Mafia

On January 13 2013 08:03 jaybrundage wrote:

Must been a while ago. I recognize the name but forgot everything else T_T

On January 13 2013 08:46 supersoft wrote:
So can we start?
I am town. thrawn are you on my team again or did we end up on opposite sides?

On January 13 2013 08:47 supersoft wrote:


does that mean you won't be around or what? So you're town?

On January 13 2013 08:57 supersoft wrote:


wbg? Should we lynch him?

On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

On January 13 2013 11:24 Hapahauli wrote:


Hopeless really never explained his reasoning about Grush though. So you think/thought Grush is/was scum for gut-feeling or something?

So why would you pick Hopeless as scum? You voted him earlier, but you also changed your mind about it.

On January 13 2013 11:24 Hapahauli wrote:


Regarding super, he did kinda peace out on this activity love-boat of ours =/

I know you played in a scum-team with him in LVIII - does this seem like a similar behavior pattern for scum-super?

On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote:


What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless?

Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction?

On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:


Regarding the bolded, if you were more concerned about Xatalos and Super, why would you feel obligated to "pick a side" on the Hopeless/Grush thing?

On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:


It reads as really forced. If you're leaning null on them, why would you even bring something like this up?

On January 13 2013 12:09 supersoft wrote:
why are you buddying zentor? He's scum. read his filter. He slipped so badly i dont even have to quote it.

On January 13 2013 09:47 kushm4sta wrote:
fyi i dont read megacases, so keep that in mind.
k this is my last intro post.
Next time I post it will be telling you who i think is scum.

On January 13 2013 12:34 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa you aren't acting townie. You are actively pushing logical falsehoods for some reason and I don't get why. A more spammy version of the dumb or scum conundrum.

I'm just pointing out how your logic is bad. ---->I was useless as scum, i'm useless right now, therefore I must be scum.
Bad reasoning.. one example of many in the thread so far.

@hapa are you saying stupid shit just because you like to talk a lot? why are you using bad logic?

On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.

On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.

On January 13 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote:

super pulled some total bs with his second entry, which happened to coincide when you started your pressure on Xatalos. It's really dangerous to make such connections but the case stands well enough alone that it's something worth considering.

ruuch is totally new, and all he has to do is chime in with his most current thoughts now and again and we will all get along. Going after him right now makes no sense to me.

I wrote down somewhere hopeless was just echoing something someone else already said, and put down "acting useless".

I like grush. Mr Zentor is ok too. And by that I mean, unless someone shows me Xatalos and super is probably not scum, I won't be looking into these guys.

On January 14 2013 03:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Alright, let's kill kush.

##vote kushm4sta

Beyond what has been said by other people about kush, note one important thing; he's been called scummy a hell of a lot but no one has actually put a vote on him. I don't recall anyone finding anything that really points in his favor either, and as I couldn't find anything on that front myself, I think that makes him a great lynch today.

In addition, there are very many reasons to call him scum, and different players have said different things. Indeed, what I noticed was different from all of them, in fact. If you would like to see for yourself, filter kush and go back into his posts. Note the number of times he comments on his own appearance. Note how he asks someone how his entrance into the thread was scummy. Note how he actually bothers to explain himself for even the tiniest accusations; things in previous games I would have expected him to either ignore or indignantly call someone stupid over.

Lastly, note how he never follows up on his reads, pushes his reads, or gives the impression that he is trying to strengthen or rationalize his reads. He certainly doesn't seem to care who scum are.

On January 14 2013 03:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand how scum are excluded from making shitty posts.

On January 14 2013 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Cool story bro, you called my case weak without even showing how it is. I have no reason to even bother replying to you any further until you learn to read.

On January 14 2013 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Cool story bro, you called my case weak without even showing how it is. I have no reason to even bother replying to you any further until you learn to read.

On January 14 2013 04:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
wbg sir, I posit that you are scum



this post is remarkably devoid of actual comments on kush's play besides references to what other's have said

when questioned about your read, you have this to say:



you are not interested in the actual conversation about whether or not kush is scum

your filter lacks thoughts/reads on other issues. there is a lot in thread to talk about and you aren't talking about it, you have posted a weak case against kush....

##unvote
##Vote: Wherebugsgo

On January 14 2013 04:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why is sloosh a better lynch than kush?

Slosh hasn't been around much but he's one of the few players who put effort into pushing a scumread.

On January 14 2013 13:33 supersoft wrote:
what kind of vet are you lol. i cant work with you if you follow the conversation in slow-motion.

On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?

On January 14 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:


Why do you think I'm scum? You've been talking a ton about how you think my play is "off," but you haven't substantiated it at all.

On January 14 2013 09:48 slOosh wrote:

I looked at his play from Paranoia and a bunch of other ones too, and this game's play looked nothing like his play in former games, either town or scum, which was the cause of the "second guessing" comment I started with. Do you think his meta indicates something about his alignment, particularly his drastic change in playstyle?

On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.

On January 14 2013 15:00 thrawn2112 wrote:


the part in bold is a lie



the second quote (which came first) suggests that sloosh is completely unfamiliar with xatalos' play, while the first quote suggests that he'd done extensive meta research before making his big xatalos case.

the second quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to him trying to decide if xata is scum or weird town, and the first quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to meta arguments.

##unvote
##Vote:slOosh

fuck, i don't know which scum i should vote for lol

On January 14 2013 15:28 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Xatalos

No idea why I haven't done this yet. Moving on:

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@ Thrawn

The stuff on SloOsh doesn't make any sense. The second quote only suggests that he's relatively unfamiliar with his play, and not completely unfamiliar. The quotes make perfect sense with one another.

Also, why are you chainsaw defending Xata? You were suspicious of him earlier...


And now you're busy chainsaw defending him. Do you think Xata is town? Because he hasn't appeared in any of your "lynch lists"

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Do discuss this, because you're suggesting lynching me on mysterious preflip "associations", which is absolutely retarded.

Oh as for the "off" stuff, I confused one of MrZ's posts with one of yours. Too many open tabs, and too little sleep

On January 14 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote:

Yea but there is a basis for each conclusion you make. Maybe a certain post makes you think a player is more townie than you thought, maybe a certain case makes you think a player is more scummy than you thought. Prom swapped and I'm saying there isn't anything to base that swap, which is a scum thing to do, because they already know the alignments and can screw up like that.

Do you see sufficient reason for Prom to decide to swap his read like that?

On January 14 2013 15:47 supersoft wrote:
hehe thrawn gj so far on sloosh and wbg. but i see now that bothvare no good lynchtargets for today. we'll figure out their side d2-d3. the fun part about good players is, that they get shot early if they're town.
+ the lynchflip gives us the info we need.
right now i think we should kill prom - what do you think.

On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:


you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.

On January 14 2013 16:27 Promethelax wrote:


really now? You wouldn't call being unwilling to lynch someone is soft calling the town? I am unwilling to lynch outside of my fourman list. This is becasue I find those four scummiest parts of that is elimination (town reads) and part of that is their scumminess. People who are not them are more townine.

On January 14 2013 16:33 Promethelax wrote:
Well, in that case why have you been pushing me as dumb instead of scum?

Also comments on my case on Lazer since I am in fact town and think he is scum.

On January 15 2013 00:44 Hopeless1der wrote:

Not sure where I stand on you. I'm not dealing with associative crap until I see flips. My suspicions on kush had little to do with you, neither does my read on Lazer. I've seen a day 1 bus that lasted multiple cycles, so what scum may or may not do is a waste of time right now. I think Lazer is scummier than you.

On January 15 2013 00:26 Hopeless1der wrote:

Thrawn's toeing the line, but hasn't actually tried to push for your lynch yet, so no, not policy worthy.

I also agree with your sentiment that Super isn't getting lynched.
##Unvote: supersoft

On January 15 2013 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote:


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I'm leaning town on Prom.

On January 15 2013 02:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
Thrawn, I see you think Hopeless is scum. How do you feel about SS? Him sheeping hopeless case without even providing a tiny bit of his own reasoning. I'm actually thinking it's more likely that it is scum SS sheeping retard Hopeless than the other way around. I don't think its very likely for both of them to be scum as it would be quite risky for them to be pushing the same case this early.

On January 15 2013 03:46 supersoft wrote:


haha, probably because of that :D

On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote:
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.

Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.

For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.

Super, are you town?

Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column?

Jay, what's your read of zentor?

Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.

On January 14 2013 09:29 Promethelax wrote:


Waht about this? Two hours after his last post and two hours ago without posting anything else. Is this scum hopeless or scummy town hopeless?

On January 14 2013 16:12 Promethelax wrote:

I care about who is going to be lynched. I just know that I won't be able to push SS through (it also doesn't help that the other scummiest dude in the thread buddied my case onto him) and after looking at his town play I am less sure than I was.

On January 14 2013 16:25 Promethelax wrote:
because Hopeless is bad at pushing lynches and Lazer is scummy as shit sheep. That leaves me to push it and, for whatever reason, no one has me as town. If there is consolidation it seems clear that Bugs, You, Thrawn will consolidate away from SS. I don't really want my vote to be a waste today and I have other scum reads tp pressure who I think have a better chance of being lynched and as good (or even better) chance of flipping scum.

I decided my tunnel wasn't so hot and there were better things for me to do day one than pressure a vet who is good as town.

On January 15 2013 04:17 Promethelax wrote:
Seriously, when did I become sheepable? Although Lazer is the best lynch candidate today, look at his defense, he simply calls the cases against himself baaad (like a sheep) and doesn't contribute anything new. The fact that his 'case' is on jay isn't helping either.

On January 15 2013 05:26 Promethelax wrote:
Thrawn, stop being a silly. I'm not scum.

On January 15 2013 08:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
Sloosh, do you sincerely see a scum motivation for being so back and forth with his opinions about Xata? It wasn't even a very good bandwagon attempt as there was only one vote at Xata at the time when he said he found him scummy.

On January 15 2013 08:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
What to do you mean?

On January 15 2013 08:49 MrZentor wrote:
Idk, WBG would certainly be a fun lynch.

On January 15 2013 14:33 jaybrundage wrote:
Can yall give some feed back on my grush case

On January 13 2013 10:00 grush57 wrote:

Well atleast I'm getting attention this game.

On January 13 2013 10:29 grush57 wrote:


Okay, I am scum because I am useful, or I am scum because of meta. But the only time I was scum was when I lurked. ?
And Jay put in his post so we have something to talk about.

Hopeless is scum yo.

##Vote: Hopeless1der

On January 15 2013 05:46 grush57 wrote:
Sorry guys, school and sleeping takes a big part of not being here, the first thing I do is read the thread :D.
I think both Lazermonkey and Prome are pretty scummy, in fact they might be bussing eachother.

On January 16 2013 05:16 supersoft wrote:
yeah lazer lied. He thought he slipped and paniced and came up with a terrible explanation :-D

On January 15 2013 23:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Oh, nvm. Didn't see you wrote scum team, thought you meant Vigi. Well, I'm cool with that then : ).

On January 15 2013 09:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, SS, how is scum life going?

I'm off to bed...

On January 15 2013 23:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Oh, nvm. Didn't see you wrote scum team, thought you meant Vigi. Well, I'm cool with that then : ).

On January 15 2013 23:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Are you serious or joking? I have a hard time to figure actually : /.

On January 16 2013 07:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lol, how does me not thinking you are willing to lynch me make scum?

On January 16 2013 07:35 Lazermonkey wrote:
How would me being scum making it less obvious? You see even here you are WIFOMing.

On January 16 2013 07:23 Lazermonkey wrote:
Thrawn, do you sincerely think I am scum because of this? If yes, am I your highest scum read?

On January 16 2013 08:03 iamperfection wrote:

what do you mean just because he was somewhat friendly to his scum read. Thats pretty weak thrawn.

Hell in liquid city i talked openly to confirmed scum in the thread as town.

On January 16 2013 17:31 jaybrundage wrote:

Do you think that one of SloOsh or WBG are scum?

You seem to avoid the entire interaction between them. Also whats your read on Hopeless1der?

On January 16 2013 12:54 slOosh wrote:
The vote thing is an alignment null point, something a town WBG would totally be keen on. By this point whenever I place my vote WBG is gonna misconstrue it as "this is what scum slOosh would do". I never even intended to push him this cycle, so he is trying to goad me into doing it, taking the pressure off hopeless.

In fact, if he agrees that hopeless is scum, as do Hapa, iamp, then there is no reason to give hopeless another cycle to survive. There is no reason to lynch me today, lynch hopeless next cycle. More preferential treatment. WBG, put your money where your mouth is. If I'm obviously scum, then surely you can convince town that I'm scum later right?

##Vote: hopeless1der

On January 17 2013 02:01 Xatalos wrote:
Not to mention that you absolutely owned the lategame in British Mafia. Can't you play like that now? And not just at LYLO?

On January 17 2013 02:19 Xatalos wrote:


MrZentor is really a special case, since he always plays in a weird and slightly trollish way. It's proven time and time again that it's no use judging him by normal standards. I tried to do that in Paranoia Mafia and failed... It's better to read him with mostly meta. If this wasn't MrZentor, I'd be quite worried about him at this point. Not to the same extent as someone like WBG or Jay though.

On January 18 2013 02:38 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okay, I'm killing SlOosh tonight. WBGs post about the timestamps + how he avoided to vote is convincing enough for me to vote him.

##Vote: SlOosh

On January 18 2013 02:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol. you really don't have an alternate scumread besides sloosh who you are sheeping wbg on?

On January 18 2013 02:49 Lazermonkey wrote:
Yhea, me not having more than one scum read at this point makes me scum. How?

On January 18 2013 02:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
/Facepalm

How does me sheeping SS make me scum, Lol? He is one of the two players in the game who is in fact confirmed town. And I didn't vote SlOosh for the reasons that SS thought made SlOosh scum. I'm purely sheeping WBG.

On January 18 2013 03:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
so what made you wait until now to vote?

On January 17 2013 05:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Your still slight scummy to me but not lynch worthy I feel. Your posting has improved quite a bit as well so I'm cool with that for now.

I'm trying to determine who I want to vote out of WBG or SlOosh as I'm quite confident one of them is scum. More shall come when the time is right!

On January 18 2013 03:06 Lazermonkey wrote: I am reading the game intensly and the reason I haven't been posting too to much the last two days is because I felt that I wasn't in danger of getting lynched so I've been spending more time reading filters rather than spending time to defend myself against retarded stuff like scum slips.

On January 18 2013 03:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
I DO want to talk about it tho.

On January 18 2013 03:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
I DO want to talk about it tho.

On January 18 2013 04:05 iamperfection wrote:
He could just be terrible.

You would think as scum he could at least throw some town reads around. To come in that weakly may mean he is in fact town.

On January 18 2013 04:24 iamperfection wrote:

Do you have a coin nearby?

On January 18 2013 05:23 iamperfection wrote:

whats the joke?

On January 18 2013 06:50 Xatalos wrote:
thrawn, I'm guessing you're going to vote for Sloosh? Please reconsider. They can't both be scum (I seriously doubt there would be only 2 wagons in that case...) and just comparing Hopeless/Sloosh, not comparing any possible complete scumteams (that's pretty useless at this point), Hopeless is more likely scum. In addition, Sloosh promised to share his reads soon, but Hopeless has done nothing to that effect (basically he's just lurking and denying information).

On January 18 2013 07:09 Xatalos wrote:


Wut...? I've had him as townread since early D1. Have you even actually taken a look at my filter?

On January 18 2013 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
But talking about Lazermonkey is pretty much off-topic right now. thrawn, why not Hopeless?

On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?

On January 18 2013 07:49 Lazermonkey wrote:
Of course not... I just found it funny!

On January 18 2013 08:51 grush57 wrote:
AHHHHH WHO WE GONNA LYNCH

On January 18 2013 23:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
This is actually quite interesting, Xata realizes that WBG isn't happening and says that both looks scummy but it's unlikely that both are scum. He then chooses to vote Hopeless, even tho my impression from the post is that he just as well could've voted hopeless. I don't think Hopeless and Xatalos are scum together. It makes no sense with the lynch this close to buss.

On January 15 2013 08:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Cakecount:

Xatalos (1): jaybrundage
Promethelax (6): slOosh, Hapahauli, thrawn2112, grush57, MrZentor, Xatalos
Lazermonkey (3): Promethelax, Hopeless1der, supersoft
MrZentor (1): wherebugsgo

Not Voting (2): Ruuch, lazermonkey


Currently, Promethelax is set to be lynched!
Less than an hour left until the deadline.

PM me or CC if I dun screwed up the count.
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