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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 14 2013 04:58 ghost_403 wrote: ENDGAME just to have a proper game ending post. IAMPERFECTION WON THE GAME by fulfilling his wincondition of getting lynched Role list:
For me and Palmar, this game was absolutely hysterical. Night 1, everyone targeted Clarity. Throughout the rest of the game, the trend continued. JX kept Toadss from dying not once, but twice. I'll post a complete night actions list at some point. Way too funny. At any rate, GOOD GAME!!!! It was our pleasure hosting this game for you guys. except for the part where town and 3rd parties went like "naaaaah, can't win the game anymore but let's at least make sure Toad can't win. That guy is a dick" I am so going to keep on saying that until the end of eternity just to make sure gonzaw and dandel know they ruined this game for me for shitz and giggles... | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Toad you were so straightforward but the thing you forgot to mention to everyone is WHY you were so straightforward. This is why I was able to convince dandel you were jester. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:07 Toadesstern wrote: except for the part where town and 3rd parties went like "naaaaah, can't win the game anymore but let's at least make sure Toad can't win. That guy is a dick" I am so going to keep on saying that until the end of eternity just to make sure gonzaw and dandel know they ruined this game for me for shitz and giggles... lol i blocked your convert. get fkd | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Just came home, haven't had a chance to look at the post-game, but feel free to leave thoughts on the setup. It's a pretty complicated game and I'm willing to listen if anyone has ideas on how to improve it. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:18 Clarity_nl wrote: Toad seems to highly disagree but I think a fourth town member would help a lot with the slow start. I dunno, I got to control night actions during n1 but after a couple of cycles it's impossible for me to keep my story straight compared to others that are telling the truth. The point of this game is that you never were supposed to win "normally" as town and people didn't realize it. You're not supposed to lynch the mafia unless he fucks up big time and you're therefore not supposed to have a majority as town. It's about figuring out roles and wether you play correctly due to the information you have and what you do with that. If you give town a majority it's not doable for mafia given the blue roles and the constant chance of just dying yourself if you're wrong on a single read. I mean I had to shoot townies, which is pretty damn risky considering 1 of them is the PGO so you better make sure your reads are correct as mafia, at least on the important people. That was the reason I shot gonzaw on n3 on purpose. That wasn't bad luck, I literally wanted to shoot the PGO. It's basicly like a game of risk (the boardgame) and people didn't realize that. Edit: The only way for town to win this is either to fuck me by telling JieXiann to not protect me and telling the shrink to shrink the medic. Or to join forces with mafia. And it's good that way. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
It's just a flaw in the setup, and if there is a different solution other than adding a townie then I'm all ears. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:26 Clarity_nl wrote: I understood it just fine, but there needs to be a way for the game to move forward even if scum isn't ready. It's just a flaw in the setup, and if there is a different solution other than adding a townie then I'm all ears. Again, you had the same options I had except for the fact that I got lucky on my n1 hit. You and town had to do something in pm's and win by screwing people, not by trying to play the game. Edit: Like as the lyncher you could have made me question my target for the last night. I don't want to make you a VT yet you never pm'ed me. The shrink could have pm'ed me and fucked with me. It was just way too easy to play this game for me because noone did something. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I am simply commenting that the day 1 forced no-lynch situation was awkward and shouldn't repeat itself. You seem to be completely missing my point. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:27 Toadesstern wrote: Again, you had the same options I had except for the fact that I got lucky on my n1 hit. You and town had to do something in pm's and win by screwing people, not by trying to play the game. Adding a 4th townie would make this game more interesting than you seem to think it would. It would make day 1 actually matter a ton. You complain that it owuld be even harder for you to win, but depending on lyncher target, it could be like 100% easier to win (lynch PGO or maybe even Shrink day 1). Also it would force the anti-town players into fakeclaiming (Let's say Shrink is getting lynched so he claims Shrink...then maybe Jester claims Shrink too, forcing a choice between the two...or scum claims Shrink, and people think he's Jester trying to force the choice...etc etc). | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:29 Clarity_nl wrote: I am not complaining about balance, I am not complaining about the different ways people need to play to win. I am simply commenting that the day 1 forced no-lynch situation was awkward and shouldn't repeat itself. You seem to be completely missing my point. I get that. But saying the forced NL is something bad means that you don't want a NL, which means lynching the mafia is possible d1, which shouldn't be possible in this set-up imo because it's not what the game is about. Also having the game end d1 because you lynched the jester or the lynchers target is really stupid as well. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Basically it becomes a decision for everyone every cycle even if scum does nothing or gets blocked, which is more interesting | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:16 Palmar wrote: I very much approve of doing stuff for shitz and giggles. Just came home, haven't had a chance to look at the post-game, but feel free to leave thoughts on the setup. It's a pretty complicated game and I'm willing to listen if anyone has ideas on how to improve it. I call Worth It on the ending of this game, if just to make Toad salty. Worth it. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 14 2013 05:42 Dandel Ion wrote: I call Worth It on the ending of this game, if just to make Toad salty. Worth it. Btw, read the end post again. Why do I feel like everyone is staring at me? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I went into this game with that attitude and it's exactly what I expected the game to be and I liked it a lot because of that. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
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