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Hapa I thought you were convinced on Zentor as a town read. Is there anything that changed your mind specifically. I think that DP's input was one of them. Was there anything else?
About ShaioPi he was pretty damn lurky, But i hear his scum meta is to lurk what gives do you still see him as a possible lynch. Replacement players throw a wrench in things cause its like the player is given a new slate and I find that its hard to use posts from before cause the new player has no idea why the previous player put them down. TBH havent played with much replacements and thats what I seem to b feeling.
CC you have been kinda lurky as late. Do you still want to lynch Yamato. Whats your thoughts on Shaio/Ion and Zentor atm?
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On January 09 2013 12:03 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 11:58 DarthPunk wrote:On January 09 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP
Who do you think is scum right now DP? Two of dandel, Jay, MR Z MAYBE, MAYBE ZB is in that group. But that is a far more difficult proposition. Also. Hapa CC and I are all confirmed town. So you can trust our intentions completely if you are town. I think Dandel has the highest chance of flipping scum. The problem is, lynching replacements early is generally a terrible play.
Why is that? Im assuming becasue they offer a different view of the players objective or motives are?
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Why on earth are you asking confirmed townies questions? That's completely useless.
Anywho, I just find Shaio's play scummy. We'll see what Dandel brings to the table, but there are a few things I don't like about Dandels posting so far. For example, he's really really down for a Yamato lynch, yet barely mentions Yamato at all in his notes.
As for MrZ, I thought I explained it really clearly in my previous posts. I'm not sure what to think of MrZ. Meta does suggest he's town, however he's been pushing a lot of mafia objectives this game. He's been rushing lynches, he hasn't been pushing his reads much, and when he does, he just kinda locked into the idea of you being scum and kicked you when you were down.
Like this post. I hate this post so much.
On January 09 2013 07:46 MrZentor wrote:
By the way, Hapa, I've changed my mind.
I'd like to delay the lynch.
Watching Yamato struggle as scum is hilarious. XD
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Jay, who do you want to lynch?
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On January 09 2013 14:27 yamato77 wrote:
Jay, who do you want to lynch?
At the moment I would vote for you or Ion. I actually agree with Zentor on his townie list. Its a process of elimination but tbh it think it should work fine. We have two confirmed blues with no scum counter claim, hapa who if scum then we all fucked.
That leaves Zentor, Yamato, Ion, Z-Boson. I agree with Zentors reads sporatic as they may b.
So that leaves You, Ion and Z-Boson.
I am not sure about Z-Boson but a couple of townies have a town read on him. So No go for that lynch today.
And that leaves you and Ion TBH i thought this would have been over with yet cause the lynch goes thru if its HAPA approved.
@Yamato
What was your motive for lynching Xatalos btw with out waiting for the town to come to an agreement?
Do you feel comfortable voting for Ion, Why or why not?
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On January 09 2013 15:03 jaybrundage wrote:At the moment I would vote for you or Ion. I actually agree with Zentor on his townie list. Its a process of elimination but tbh it think it should work fine. We have two confirmed blues with no scum counter claim, hapa who if scum then we all fucked. That leaves Zentor, Yamato, Ion, Z-Boson. I agree with Zentors reads sporatic as they may b. So that leaves You, Ion and Z-Boson. I am not sure about Z-Boson but a couple of townies have a town read on him. So No go for that lynch today. And that leaves you and Ion TBH i thought this would have been over with yet cause the lynch goes thru if its HAPA approved. @Yamato What was your motive for lynching Xatalos btw with out waiting for the town to come to an agreement? Do you feel comfortable voting for Ion, Why or why not?
With that many people voting for Xatalos and agreeing he looked scummy, I felt confident enough in my read to see him lynched. Most of town had already given their opinion on the matter. I've explained this before.
As for Dandel, I don't like his entrance, much for the same reasons Hapa and DP have given. The dude comes in, says he would lynch me (prime target) and never justifies the read except by arguing that DP shouldn't have a town read on me. Scum would want to enter the thread like this because I am a 'safe' scum read to have right now.
What I am interested in right now is some analysis from you on your scum reads. What about me or Dandel makes us worth lynching? What makes Zentor townie to you?
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Just checking in, I've had a busy day, and am really really tired atm. Am going to sleep, tomorrow I'll update my reads. Pc
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On January 09 2013 15:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
Just checking in, I've had a busy day, and am really really tired atm. Am going to sleep, tomorrow I'll update my reads. Pc
We've basically heard nothing from you in a long time. I look forward to seeing what you think of this. Right now you are in my "most likely town but not confirmed" category, but your inactivity is weakening this.
What I want to know:
Why did/do you want to lynch jay? What do you think of Dandel's entrance and reads?
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@Jay
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.
Shiaopi and Yamato
Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.
Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D
Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.
I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.
Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?
This is the only post I could find where you gave any reason for thinking that I am scum after calling me frustrated town here:
On January 08 2013 14:21 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 14:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 14:00 jaybrundage wrote:On January 08 2013 13:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay,
You seem not to care whether you lynch town or scum. What gives? You made that comment about lynching a detrimental townie to me, now you think shaiopi would be a good lynch whether hes scum or town.
Also, you've been very inactive / not involved in the thread as well. Why are you in favor of a SP lynch? I never said he would be a good lynch if hes town. I said his inactivity hurts us whether hes scum or town. In the end I can never know for sure if you, ShaioPi, ZBoson, Zentor or anyone else for that matter is town or scum. However if ShaioPi looks scummy then we should by all means lynch him. So far he hasn't given us much content to go off and determine his alignment. I dont want him at LYLO because if he stays at this post rate we still wont have much to go on. I have been a bit inactive I find it hard to continually post content. Also it find it difficult to continue to contributing when my best scum read is still alive. I had this same problem before with kata in one of my past games I got to tunneled on her and didn't branch out on other people. CC whos your biggest scum read atm? You said you would be down for his lynch. How does he look scummy with the exception of lurking? What makes him have a good chance of flipping scum? Well lets see here he was on a Mislynch could be null tell could be scummy. I posted a case on him earlier that i thought he was scummy. He has done nothing to change my read of him. Do you think that he has done anything townie? I Think your im scummy tunnel me shit is stupid as fuck. I would say that I think that Yamato just sounds like a frustrated townie still. He's trying to give his read, and hapa is busy defending you who the fuck knows why I think he should let you defend yourself, If you do it properly at least. Instead of this im scummy tunnel me bullshit thats not helping anyone. I dont like that Hapa is so confident your town. Now your scum reads plz
How did this read change? What about what I've done between now and then made me a viable lynch candidate? Because I could certainly make the point that this looks like you're just jumping on a person you have already called "lynch bait" in the thread.
On January 07 2013 08:23 jaybrundage wrote:
That was so badddddddddddddddddd. I was gonna go reread Xaltos posting cause the more i looked at him the more i could see townie. Like we lynched him when he wasnt even here. I only see a scum driven wagon when I look at the votes.
Hapa questions do you think that both of the scum could of been on that wagon.
Do you think it was scummy as fuck for what Zentor and Yamato did. Hammaring with out talking to the town first is terrible we should all b agreeing on shit. Not do rash dumb actons
Also I want better explanation of this post. You come in after we lynch someone you had no part in defending. You gave a weakish town read in the thread, but all you did day 1 was push CC the whole time. Why would you want to make a post like this as town? You're using the fact that it was a mislynch to throw shit at the people who got him lynched. Scum love to do this, and the fact that it's instant majority makes that tactic all the more effective given the nature of the votes.
I can just imagine a scum sitting back and watching town pile votes on a town player, and then making this exact type of post after the lynch to look smug.
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Oh DP is a non-counterclaimed blue, huh.
There goes that amazing sick scumread, I guess.
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Actually I changed my mind, I don't wanna lynch yamato today.
He might still be scum, but it's gotten pretty unlikely imo.
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DP's reasoning for his townread is still shit though.
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DP is so scummy, I still want to think he's scum even when he's confirmed town.
u should fix that brah
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Yeah no, yamato is prob town.
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I'm pretty sure the 2 scum are between Zentor, Zbo, and jay.
Now to try and figure out which.....
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Vote Count
MrZentor (1): Yamato77
Dandel Ion (1): DarthPunk
Yamato77 (1): MrZentor
jaybrundage (0): DarthPunk
Mr. Cheesecake (0): Yamato77
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Not Voting (5): Z-Boson, Hapahauli, Mr. Cheesecake, jaybrundage, ShiaoPi
5 votes are required to lynch.
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On January 10 2013 02:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm pretty sure the 2 scum are between Zentor, Zbo, and jay.
Now to try and figure out which.....
What made you change your read on ShiaoPi? Besides the obv ofc. Also you proclaimed Yamato was scum earlier what changed.
@Yamato My read changed after the process of elimination. I have done a bit of sheeping I admit, however I do kinda agree with Zentors reads of the town regardless if he can be occasionally trolly.
On my post after the lynch I already explained it. I said scummy wasn't the right word. I think really stupid or dumb would of sufficed better, and yes i was not happy after that lynch. You guys made a vote on someone that I had no real scum read on. Hammering when we hadn't reach an agreement as town wasn't smart. I also think that scum were on the wagon for Xatalos.
On January 07 2013 08:14 Blazinghand wrote:Final Vote Count Xatalos (5): Mr.Cheesecake, ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr. Cheesecake, MrZentor, Yamato77 Mr. Cheesecake (2): Yamato77, jaybrundage, Xatalosyamato77 (0): Xatalos, MrZentorHapahauli (0): Yamato77, MrZentorZ-Boson (0): ShiaoPi, DarthPunkjaybrundage (0): DarthPunkDarthPunk (0): HapahauliMrZentor (0): Mr. CheesecakeShiaoPi (0): jaybrundage, Xatalos- Not Voting (2): Hapahauli, DarthPunk5 votes are required to lynch.No posting until night post.
Assuming Hapa is townie or da best scummy eva and assuming that the blue claims are real as they haven't been counter claimed then we have 3 townies. 4 including me as i know for my self that i am town. That leaves 2 scum on the Xatalos wagon.
Out of these 4 ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr.Zentor, and Yamato.
I believe that Mr.Zentor is town atm.
So that leaves ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, and Yamato as possible scum. So that is a big reason I can see you being scum Yamato. Process of Elimination. I'm going to do more looking and see if I can't narrow my reads town.
Yamato I would very much like your reads on Z-Boson and ShiaoPi/Dandel plz
Also Z-boson and Dandel plz give reads on the other two people in this group. Thx
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Man i feel like I missed a big opportunity to use red txt D:
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On January 10 2013 03:17 jaybrundage wrote:
What made you change your read on ShiaoPi? Besides the obv ofc.
I read my role PM. Duh.
I don't envy y'all, the role PM was by and far the easiest way to find out.
Also you proclaimed Yamato was scum earlier what changed.
I am reading the thread.
Like, actually reading it.
Barring a major scumslip by him in the last ~5 pages before my grand entrance I still have to do (then filters), I am willing to assume him town, and not willing to lynch him.
Let me paint you a picture:
On January 07 2013 08:14 Blazinghand wrote:Final Vote Count Xatalos (5): Mr.Cheesecake, ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr. Cheesecake, MrZentor, Yamato77Mr. Cheesecake (2): Yamato77,jaybrundage, Xatalosyamato77 (0): Xatalos, MrZentorHapahauli (0): Yamato77, MrZentorZ-Boson (0): ShiaoPi, DarthPunkjaybrundage (0): DarthPunkDarthPunk (0): HapahauliMrZentor (0): Mr. CheesecakeShiaoPi (0): jaybrundage, Xatalos- Not Voting (2): Hapahauli, DarthPunk5 votes are required to lynch.No posting until night post.
How curious.
Judging by experience, scum rarely pile all their members onto a single mislynch.
Which means that using only this voting pattern, jay is the most likely of the three to flip red, then a toss-up between Zentor and Zbo.
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Allright catching up.
Hi dandel!
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