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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 09 2013 18:31 GMT
#1161
Yo Zbro
A backwards poet writes inverse.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 18:36 GMT
#1162
Saying scum rarely pile all there members onto a single mislynch is WIFOM.

Also there is only two scum as well so it becomes alot easier to accomplish this.

Also I also have a PM and mine is actually green

We both know that regardless of your alignment you would have to claim town ofc.

Also Z-Boson you have kind of declined in activity. Thoughts on ShiaoPi and Dandel plz
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
January 09 2013 18:37 GMT
#1163
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.

Shiaopi and Yamato

Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.

Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D

Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.

I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.

Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?



Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
January 09 2013 18:38 GMT
#1164
On January 10 2013 03:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Saying scum rarely pile all there members onto a single mislynch is WIFOM.

Also there is only two scum as well so it becomes alot easier to accomplish this.

Also I also have a PM and mine is actually green

We both know that regardless of your alignment you would have to claim town ofc.

Also Z-Boson you have kind of declined in activity. Thoughts on ShiaoPi and Dandel plz


Will take a look at dandel, lemme catch up!
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 18:41 GMT
#1165
On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.

Shiaopi and Yamato

Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.

Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D

Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.

I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.

Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?



Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate?

I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 18:45 GMT
#1166
Jay is pretty spot-on with his analysis. In GSL III Mini, scum piled on to one wagon to end Day 1. I believe GSL II was a very similar situation.

Scum have huge incentives in this format to pile on one wagon. One major scum objective is to make the day end as quick as possible, as infinitely long days create more discussion. The second, is that the game is sufficiently small enough (2 man scum-team) where distancing isn't much of a concern. It's very dangerous to bus (you potentially lose 50% of your team), and scum probably won't pay much attention to that in a small game.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 18:52 GMT
#1167
@ Dandel

Won't lie, I really want to lynch you right now. Mainly for this:

On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.

Other scum most likely Zbo.

On January 09 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw I would have lynched Shiao after yamato too, but can we like, not do that now?
Would be nice.


What is even the point of these comments? The only purpose for stuff like this is to agree with people, and not to serve any town objectives. You just replaced in, and you even admitted to not being fully caught up:
On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:
What, are you town? Cause I think your PM says the opposite >>

I am.
Tho i understand you thinking otherwise.


How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much.

I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually tho

I'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager.

I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight.
I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask


Basically, you're down for lynching Yamato (despite rarely mentioning Yamato in your "notes") despite only being caught up to page 17. Then all of a sudden when you "read" the game:

On January 09 2013 23:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah no, yamato is prob town.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 18:54 GMT
#1168
@ Z-Bo

Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 09 2013 19:09 GMT
#1169
On January 10 2013 03:52 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Dandel

Won't lie, I really want to lynch you right now. Mainly for this:

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.

Other scum most likely Zbo.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw I would have lynched Shiao after yamato too, but can we like, not do that now?
Would be nice.


What is even the point of these comments? The only purpose for stuff like this is to agree with people, and not to serve any town objectives. You just replaced in, and you even admitted to not being fully caught up:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:
What, are you town? Cause I think your PM says the opposite >>

I am.
Tho i understand you thinking otherwise.


How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much.

I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually tho

I'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager.

I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight.
I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask


Basically, you're down for lynching Yamato (despite rarely mentioning Yamato in your "notes") despite only being caught up to page 17. Then all of a sudden when you "read" the game:

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 23:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah no, yamato is prob town.


Yeah. That is an accurate recap of what happened.

See, I would've lynched yamato for his day 1 play.
When I was just reading this thread on the side, I still thought yam was being scummy for getting so irrationally angry and how he went about that anger.
Now I read more than that closely, it's likely to be a town anger. Also yam is just an irrationally angry dude, not a scumtell for him.

Kinda like Eywa, but without the modkills.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 09 2013 19:12 GMT
#1170
And I said I would lynch yamato, but did I do something about it?

nah, cause I know that's stupid when you're not caught up.

Did it accomplish nothing?
That may be your opinion, but I'd disagree.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 19:19 GMT
#1171
But that's such a horrendously irresponsible comment to make when you've just replaced in.

"Yes I'd be down for lynching a guy based on the first 33% of the game." WTF is the point of saying that?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
January 09 2013 19:21 GMT
#1172
On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo

Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him.


Concerned how? I've been busy.
Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 19:21 GMT
#1173
And so what if you didn't follow up on it with your vote? Fact is, you just fanned the flames in a situation where yamato was under a lot of heat.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 19:22 GMT
#1174
On January 10 2013 04:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo

Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him.


Concerned how? I've been busy.
Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer...


Well yes, but you've been 100% convinced that MrZ is scum for the better part of the last 2 days.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 09 2013 19:23 GMT
#1175
On January 10 2013 04:19 Hapahauli wrote:
But that's such a horrendously irresponsible comment to make when you've just replaced in.

"Yes I'd be down for lynching a guy based on the first 33% of the game." WTF is the point of saying that?

what is the point in pointing this out?

If it was pointless, you wouldn't say it was scummy. You'd say it was pointless.
But you're not doing that.
So I think you understand that there is a merit to it.
Unfortunately for me, you assume a mafia merit, but whatevs. The point is, you don't even think yourself that they are pointless, as I pointed out.

So your question is redundant.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
January 09 2013 19:25 GMT
#1176
On January 10 2013 03:41 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.

Shiaopi and Yamato

Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.

Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D

Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.

I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.

Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?



Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate?

I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold.


This makes zero sense. Scum are much more likely to give townreads. It is also troubling on how convinced he seems to be. I need some confirmation from you hapa, but in witchcraft did he also insistently just keep saying "I know he is town, I know he is scum, lynch him"? Because that sums up a large portion of what Mr.Z has been doing lately.
Also, his attitude is anti-town, he doesn't promote discussion with it and doesn't add anything.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
January 09 2013 19:26 GMT
#1177
On January 10 2013 04:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 04:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo

Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him.


Concerned how? I've been busy.
Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer...


Well yes, but you've been 100% convinced that MrZ is scum for the better part of the last 2 days.


Did I say that somewhere?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 19:27 GMT
#1178
On January 10 2013 04:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 04:19 Hapahauli wrote:
But that's such a horrendously irresponsible comment to make when you've just replaced in.

"Yes I'd be down for lynching a guy based on the first 33% of the game." WTF is the point of saying that?

what is the point in pointing this out?

If it was pointless, you wouldn't say it was scummy. You'd say it was pointless.
But you're not doing that.
So I think you understand that there is a merit to it.
Unfortunately for me, you assume a mafia merit, but whatevs. The point is, you don't even think yourself that they are pointless, as I pointed out.

So your question is redundant.


It's pointless from a town perspective. From a scum-perspective, I can think of many ways to rationalize what you did.

Fanning the flames of a Yamato lynch, wanting to agree with the town for the sake of agreeing, etc.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 09 2013 19:28 GMT
#1179
On January 10 2013 04:21 Hapahauli wrote:
And so what if you didn't follow up on it with your vote? Fact is, you just fanned the flames in a situation where yamato was under a lot of heat.

Maybe I wanted to see if he was Icarus, and if his fake wings would burn under the glaring sun, but then it turned out he's a real bird with real wings.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 09 2013 19:30 GMT
#1180
On January 10 2013 04:26 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 04:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 10 2013 04:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On January 10 2013 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Z-Bo

Welcome back Z-Bo! I am rather concerned about your recent activity of late. As well as you calling MrZ scum over and over again without actually having voted him.


Concerned how? I've been busy.
Also, I'm not placing my vote because I don't want to start an avalanche like last time, I thought you yourself wanted to drag this on longer...


Well yes, but you've been 100% convinced that MrZ is scum for the better part of the last 2 days.


Did I say that somewhere?


It's kinda implied from your filter given that he's been your top scumread forevvvvvver and has done nothing to vindicate himself in your eyes since.
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