EPTWho do you think is scum right now DP?
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Who do you think is scum right now DP? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:43 DarthPunk wrote: YAY. I am back. I actually was leaning town on yamato which is in stark contrast to the rest of the thread it seems. Firstly, I don't see a scum yamato hammering Xatalos like he did. Three people hadn't voted yet, there was no reason to draw attention to himself with the hammer. Obviously that could be the very reason he did it but I don't see newer scum players such as yamato having the balls to do that. Secondly, his suspicion and push of CC, although proven wrong now, Seemed very genuine. He put a lot of time and effort into pursuing his top scum read DESPITE hapa fucking nailing him to the wall for it the entire time. Like, pushing CC as scum with hapa all over you for it and continuing to do so whilst faking the kind of frustration yamato was showing is very difficult and highly unlikely. He pursued his top scum read DESPITE also having to flame with hapa to do so. He could have pushed far easier targets but PERSISTED despite much adversity. Yeah so I am NOT down for a yamato lynch and I suggest everyone think long and hard about their read of him. REMEMBER being wrong does not = Scum. In fact it is regularly a trait of being townie. Ya I disagree. Since when do you have to flame other people to push your lynch? It's perfectly possible without doing that. When you're town that is. Frustration will come up naturally when nobody wants to lynch your lynch. Don't see the townread. The hammering is null at best, since it can be seen as wifom. Being wrong is definetly NOT a town-tell. Stop that thinking. Your townread doesn't seem to be based on much. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:50 Hapahauli wrote: Do you have free time tomorrow? Because I want you to take over for me in that regard. In the afternoon I have some. I'll make sure he's a contributing town member, Hapa. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:54 yamato77 wrote: In the afternoon I have some. I'll make sure he's a contributing town member, Hapa. Ya I wish you grand success. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:54 Dandel Ion wrote: Ya I disagree. Since when do you have to flame other people to push your lynch? It's perfectly possible without doing that. When you're town that is. Frustration will come up naturally when nobody wants to lynch your lynch. Don't see the townread. The hammering is null at best, since it can be seen as wifom. Being wrong is definetly NOT a town-tell. Stop that thinking. Your townread doesn't seem to be based on much. So I'm not town, okay. Why am I scum, Dandel? Aside from process of elimination, of course. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10848 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote: @ DP Who do you think is scum right now DP? Two of dandel, Jay, MR Z MAYBE, MAYBE ZB is in that group. But that is a far more difficult proposition. Also. Hapa CC and I are all confirmed town. So you can trust our intentions completely if you are town. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Gonna do like, the thinking and reading stuff tomorrow. Toodles. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:58 DarthPunk wrote: Two of dandel, Jay, MR Z MAYBE, MAYBE ZB is in that group. But that is a far more difficult proposition. Also. Hapa CC and I are all confirmed town. So you can trust our intentions completely if you are town. I think Dandel has the highest chance of flipping scum. The problem is, lynching replacements early is generally a terrible play. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10848 Posts
On January 09 2013 11:54 Dandel Ion wrote: Ya I disagree. Since when do you have to flame other people to push your lynch? It's perfectly possible without doing that. When you're town that is. Frustration will come up naturally when nobody wants to lynch your lynch. Don't see the townread. The hammering is null at best, since it can be seen as wifom. Being wrong is definetly NOT a town-tell. Stop that thinking. Your townread doesn't seem to be based on much. He didn't choose to flame. Hapa went at him hard and he persisted with his scum read. Your first point is trash. Frustration is one of the hardest emotions to fake genuinely. It was the main reason people correctly read me as town in this game. Second point is trash. Hammering is not null just because you say so. My point stands because it is unlikely for scum to want to put themselves in the spotlight. All the reasons hapa said CC was town earlier apply to the hammer of Yamato and Yamato is far less likely to try shenanigans than CC. It seems to me that you don;t want Confirmed town giving town reads on lynch bait. In fact. I can lynch you comfortably from just this post. ##Unvote ##Vote: Dandel Ion | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 09 2013 12:00 MrZentor wrote: I'm starting to feel like Hapa is the only one who can read me. :/ Its ok Zentor i wont lynch you D: | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10848 Posts
On January 09 2013 12:00 MrZentor wrote: I'm starting to feel like Hapa is the only one who can read me. :/ You have no one to blame for that but yourself IMO | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 09 2013 12:04 DarthPunk wrote: You have no one to blame for that but yourself IMO This. If you want people to think you're town and not scum you should ACT LIKE IT. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
This is the best solution really. If I weren't playing like this, Xatalos wouldn't have been the first lynch. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 09 2013 12:09 MrZentor wrote: Yeah, but whenever I act town, I get lynched instantly. This is the best solution really. If I weren't playing like this, Xatalos wouldn't have been the first lynch. So your excuse is, I don't want to play like town because I get lynched? Do you know how to play town at all? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Furthermore, how am I supposed to be able to get a town read on you, or any read at all if you play like this as town and scum? | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Before the Day 1 lynch deadline, you thought Shaio was scum. In fact, you had this rather strong statement in one of your posts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112¤tpage=26#513 Either he or Xatalos is scum, I'm not sure which. It's pretty unlikely that they're both scum, considering how they both made cases on why the other is scum. Since then, you've never really pushed the idea of wanting to lynch Shaio, which is really odd. You've mentioned "Shaio is scum" a bunch of times in your filter: On January 09 2013 06:05 MrZentor wrote: Two of Yamato, Z Boson, and ShiaoPi are scum. So probably Yamato and ShiaoPi. On January 09 2013 06:12 MrZentor wrote: Confirmed town Hapahauli MrZentor Mr. CheeseCake Most Probably Town jaybrundage DarthPunk I Hate to Think He's Town, but He Probably Is Z-Boson Scum yamato77 ShiaoPi Not once have you ever explained why you think Shaio is scum, nor have you ever attempted to pressure him. Other than that, you've been pushing anti-town objectives (rushed lynches on both days). The only case you've really pushed is the one against Yamato, and you're not even pushing it. You're just kicking him while he's down. In a game where I have reasons to think everyone is town for one reason or another (except for Shaio), I have to turn to the person that's pushing mafia objectives. And that's you right now. Because Jay seems townie. As does Z-Bo (though his lack of activity is concerning of late) And even Yamato - he's been a dick to me all game, and that's a pretty huge town-tell. Eywa- 2.0 so far, and I think DP's right about him. What's left is you, and the only reason I have to think you're town is a meta argument. And in all your town-games, you atleast attempt to push reads and scumhunt. You're really not doing much this game at all. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Gawsh this is confuzzling. What besides the "running a marathon" post makes you think Jay is townie? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Do not compare me to that asshole. | ||
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