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Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#1681
On February 04 2013 09:41 Stutters695 wrote:
Novas most recent posting stood out to me. He mentions he won't do more on the two he's already mentioned but his next dcumread is you, but instead of why, he just doesn't know how to feel about you.

you as in AS. again were getting more skirtingthe questions.


How do you feel about Nova and Rockhydra stutters?
We do what we must, because we can.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#1682
Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature?

~dandel
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 00:44 GMT
#1683
On February 04 2013 09:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature?

~dandel


Oh you may be right

Well Aperture, better get a creature out soon.
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 04 2013 00:44 GMT
#1684
On February 04 2013 09:44 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature?

~dandel


Oh you may be right

Well Aperture, better get a creature out soon.


Yea thats not going to happen soon
We do what we must, because we can.
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 00:47 GMT
#1685
So Aperture, what do you suggest we do regarding Xfire? How to kill him, when, how you can help us do it with other cards you have, how can other people do it with the cards they claimed and have in the field, etc?

You seem awfully quite about this whole "let's figure out how to kill a confirmed scum" deal, and you+iGrok are the "experts" of magic, so you should be leading us to victory right now, yet you aren't

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 00:47 GMT
#1686
EBWOP:

*awfully quiet
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 00:51 GMT
#1687
What do you guys think about Nova "not reading the thread" and even hinting Xfire could be town?
Could he be faking that as scum, or is a "scumslip", or just means he's town not paying attention?

Thoughts?

Also, if Xfire comes back and shits on us before Artanis quells my doubts I'll be a little bit angry

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 00:56 GMT
#1688
Also damn you marv/S&B why aren't you guys active and scumhunting and shit?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 00:59 GMT
#1689
You know, I'd really like strong's thoughts on all this shit, I don't even remember what his reads are (other than he thought CH was a little scummy back in T1 lol)

Seriously dudes, even if you guys aren't taking a "central role" in this town like you said, this inactivity and lack of doing stuff is worrying. Only marv tried to do some stuff, but only a little
Basically I don't remember him doing much other than defending Stutters and posting a "meh I dunno" post about like half the players.

Come on dude...you are not scum are you?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:02 GMT
#1690
On February 04 2013 09:44 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature?

~dandel


Oh you may be right

Well Aperture, better get a creature out soon.

Nope, my fellow Hydra head is wrong. Fork rulings are strange like that, but Reckless Abandon's text reads "as an additional cost". Sacrificing the creature is thus part of the casting cost, which does not need to be payed again. AS can fork the crap out of that. Hur hur hur.

Also, here's the math on Xfire:

Wooded Foothills: 1 damage
Zombie x4: 8 damage
Soul Syphon: 16 life
Chain Lightning x 3: 9 damage
Reverberate on CL: 3 damage
Death Spark: 1 damage
Zombie x 3: 6 damage
Ninja: 2 damage
Lavamancer: 1 damage

Total: 5 life remaining

As far as I can see in the board thread nothing else happened to him

/Acro
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
February 04 2013 01:02 GMT
#1691
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.
On February 04 2013 09:11 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
If I deal enough damage now to reduce a player's HP to 0, does he instantly die, or can he play something?

Players remain alive until the end of the phase they're currently in.
On February 04 2013 09:13 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Even if he can indeed cast something, he can't "recover" right? If he gets down to 0 HP he dies no matter what, right?

No, because it'd 'rush' people into casting spells. The no in response rule has been made to counter this, and quickly casting spells to kill someone before they can cast something would be included in that.
On February 04 2013 09:16 RockHydra wrote:
what is crossfire still current hp?

5.
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
February 04 2013 01:03 GMT
#1692
On February 04 2013 09:59 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
You know, I'd really like strong's thoughts on all this shit, I don't even remember what his reads are (other than he thought CH was a little scummy back in T1 lol)

Seriously dudes, even if you guys aren't taking a "central role" in this town like you said, this inactivity and lack of doing stuff is worrying. Only marv tried to do some stuff, but only a little
Basically I don't remember him doing much other than defending Stutters and posting a "meh I dunno" post about like half the players.

Come on dude...you are not scum are you?

/G


Sadly I cannot make strongandbig appear. I think my opinions are obvious enough, who I think is mafia etc. I'm not going to post for the sake of posting, darling. Sound familiar?
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 01:06 GMT
#1693
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:13 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Even if he can indeed cast something, he can't "recover" right? If he gets down to 0 HP he dies no matter what, right?

No, because it'd 'rush' people into casting spells. The no in response rule has been made to counter this, and quickly casting spells to kill someone before they can cast something would be included in that.


But this applies to him the same right?
Imagine I get him down to 0 HP, and he does nothing

Imagine he has a "Gain 1 life" sorcery. Now imagine he plays it at the last second of this Main Phase.

Wouldn't this be unfair? We'd be playing this whole Main Phase under the assumption he'd die, and he fucks that up at the last second.

Could you maybe give him a "set" time for him to use a card that prevents him from dying or something? That way once that set time passes we are sure he'll die at the end of the cycle


/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:07 GMT
#1694
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.

Yay, we're not playing with the retarded new rules that removed that. Also, that means he should be at 14, right?

2 dmg from siphon
1 dmg from lavamancer
1 mana burn t2
2 mana burn t3
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
February 04 2013 01:08 GMT
#1695
On February 04 2013 10:07 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.

Yay, we're not playing with the retarded new rules that removed that. Also, that means he should be at 14, right?

2 dmg from siphon
1 dmg from lavamancer
1 mana burn t2
2 mana burn t3

I forgot manaburn doesn't exist anymore, my bad. No mana burn. Also, Braid of Fire mana can be used during the Main Phase.
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#1696
On February 04 2013 10:06 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 09:13 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Even if he can indeed cast something, he can't "recover" right? If he gets down to 0 HP he dies no matter what, right?

No, because it'd 'rush' people into casting spells. The no in response rule has been made to counter this, and quickly casting spells to kill someone before they can cast something would be included in that.


But this applies to him the same right?
Imagine I get him down to 0 HP, and he does nothing

Imagine he has a "Gain 1 life" sorcery. Now imagine he plays it at the last second of this Main Phase.

Wouldn't this be unfair? We'd be playing this whole Main Phase under the assumption he'd die, and he fucks that up at the last second.

Could you maybe give him a "set" time for him to use a card that prevents him from dying or something? That way once that set time passes we are sure he'll die at the end of the cycle


/G


Of course my concerns about this is because we CAN deal A LOT of damage to him, not just 5.
But we would ONLY deal 5 damage to him if it kills him.
So if he has the "Gain 1 life" card, and uses it now, then we can kill him with 1 more damage this Main Phase
But if he waits until the very last moment and ninja-casts, then we can't, and thus he'll survive longer when he shouldn't

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:10 GMT
#1697
Eh, I don't think there's any difference between Xfire dying in the main phase or in the attack phase unless he casts a creature with haste.

Plan: blast Xfire down to 0 life. If he doesn't die, we attack him with enough creatures to kill him in the attack phase.
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
February 04 2013 01:11 GMT
#1698
keeeeeeeeeel him!
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
February 04 2013 01:12 GMT
#1699
On February 04 2013 10:06 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 09:13 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Even if he can indeed cast something, he can't "recover" right? If he gets down to 0 HP he dies no matter what, right?

No, because it'd 'rush' people into casting spells. The no in response rule has been made to counter this, and quickly casting spells to kill someone before they can cast something would be included in that.


But this applies to him the same right?
Imagine I get him down to 0 HP, and he does nothing

Imagine he has a "Gain 1 life" sorcery. Now imagine he plays it at the last second of this Main Phase.

Wouldn't this be unfair? We'd be playing this whole Main Phase under the assumption he'd die, and he fucks that up at the last second.

Could you maybe give him a "set" time for him to use a card that prevents him from dying or something? That way once that set time passes we are sure he'll die at the end of the cycle


/G

Deadline trickery will not be permitted. Additional time will be given to prevent a last minute 'escape' if necessary.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:15 GMT
#1700
On February 04 2013 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:07 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.

Yay, we're not playing with the retarded new rules that removed that. Also, that means he should be at 14, right?

2 dmg from siphon
1 dmg from lavamancer
1 mana burn t2
2 mana burn t3

I forgot manaburn doesn't exist anymore, my bad. No mana burn. Also, Braid of Fire mana can be used during the Main Phase.

What? How the hell? Is he allowed to use the mana to cast sorceries or permanents? Is he allowed to use it to cast instants that interact with sorceries or permanents played that turn? If so, you just ninja-improved the shit out of a card without telling us.

Also, Appy, why did you not tell us? In fact, why did you purposefully withhold that information last turn when you tapped more lands than you needed to cast Reverberate?
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