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FUUUUUUCK I WANTED TO FIRESTORM EVERYTHING INTO PIECES GODDAMMIT
I was actually hoping both flip green, so that I could make this game a burning crater with no life left.
No life but us, that is.
Well, us and poster and stutters.
Also, this was one of the best and most fun games I ever played in the first few cycles.
Then it went to shit, was boring and I was basically just waiting till next turn, so I could Firestorm bitches for massive massive damage.
That's why I didn't really care about who flips today. Acro was worried about suck's deck or whatever, but we would have been able to beat down those puny 20~ish HP he would get easily. All that while still killing everybody else.
Man, so BM.
I wanted to kill bitches with firestorms and zombies. Not just with zombies.
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The card that could do lots of damage was Firestorm. As you can see, it can only do lots of damage if we have lots of cards and lots of targets to hit with it.
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Well Acro, maybe it was Dandel....but you certainly seemed too "furious" regarding Suck. Although I know that feeling since I have it at times (that "tunnelly" feel)
The thing about being a "dick" was the whole "I'm never playing with marv again, he's a shitty shit regardless of alignment" and that kind of stuff.
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I also personally didn't give a fuck what alignment marv was I just wanted him to die.
Really, the game was figured out, next turn we would have blasted everything that's not us, poster and stutters and still won.
So I figured policy killing the guy that decided to be a collosal dick to me first was the best way to go about it.
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The more I think about this, the less I think it's possible to balance the game with user-submitted decks. Maybe if everyone picked their favorite preconstructed Theme Deck? There are just so many ways to break the game with 9 players :D
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On February 07 2013 03:58 Acrofales wrote:
@Marv. Sorry for the mistaken tunnel, but you really did play badly.
The thing is, I still disagree with this. By the end of Day 1, I had my top 3 with the two mafia in it.
One of the top 3 claimed mafia and was killed, and then I pushed the other one, correctly, all game long.
You made an incorrect town-case on the mafia, which I demolished with totally correct logic, and declared me mafia, even though I still had the mafia as my #1 read.
Obviously I went about defending myself far too antagonistically, but mostly my reads were correct and I was the only one to consistently push Aperture as the remaining mafia.
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Also yeah before the whole Xfire deal this game was fun as a rollercoaster (very fun)
After Xfire outed himself but had like 40 HP, it turned to shit, specially after some people told Xfire how to survive that cycle 
After that it was boring/frustrating/etc, but at least T1 Attack Phase it felt so good with 2 cases on scum lol.
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Also Artanis, first of great game (and sorry Acro is such a salty guy when he feels unfairly treated) :D
Just tell me one thing:
Did you make Cross mafia on purpose? That dude had the most scum deck ever, lol. Shaman (fking op card), syphon, god knows what else was in there.
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On February 07 2013 04:08 gonzaw wrote:Also yeah before the whole Xfire deal this game was fun as a rollercoaster (very fun) After Xfire outed himself but had like 40 HP, it turned to shit, specially after some people told Xfire how to survive that cycle After that it was boring/frustrating/etc, but at least T1 Attack Phase it felt so good with 2 cases on scum lol.
I already figured out how to survive and was going to do it as late as possible. I was planning on sacrificing during the attack phase, but once you guys figured that out stuff I had to sacrifice stuff ASAP. It also helped pretending to not know to get you guys riled up thinking that you told me what to do, which worked completely lol.
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On February 07 2013 04:07 MidnightGladius wrote:
The more I think about this, the less I think it's possible to balance the game with user-submitted decks. Maybe if everyone picked their favorite preconstructed Theme Deck? There are just so many ways to break the game with 9 players :D
The original game had us submit a deck idea to artanis and he would make the deck for us. The trouble was that is incredibly time consuming. Perhaps selection a preconstructed deck would be optimal.
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On February 07 2013 04:03 gonzaw wrote:
Well Acro, maybe it was Dandel....but you certainly seemed too "furious" regarding Suck. Although I know that feeling since I have it at times (that "tunnelly" feel)
The thing about being a "dick" was the whole "I'm never playing with marv again, he's a shitty shit regardless of alignment" and that kind of stuff.
Syllo asked whether I was quitting Bugs' game because of Marv, and what had happened. What was I supposed to respond? No, I really enjoyed playing this last game with Marv, it was fun?
I think I made my feelings abundantly clear in the long post. I did not enjoy playing the game these last 2 days (realtime days). When Marv's response to the long post was to basically state that I had no right to feel that way, I was clearly angry and just posted what I said in private, in public. Maybe I shouldn't have done that, but maybe Marv shouldn't have read a post in which I was clearly upset and said "you don't get to be upset".
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On February 07 2013 04:11 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 04:08 gonzaw wrote:Also yeah before the whole Xfire deal this game was fun as a rollercoaster (very fun) After Xfire outed himself but had like 40 HP, it turned to shit, specially after some people told Xfire how to survive that cycle After that it was boring/frustrating/etc, but at least T1 Attack Phase it felt so good with 2 cases on scum lol. I already figured out how to survive and was going to do it as late as possible. I was planning on sacrificing during the attack phase, but once you guys figured that out stuff I had to sacrifice stuff ASAP. It also helped pretending to not know to get you guys riled up thinking that you told me what to do, which worked completely lol.
Oh well...
....still, you surviving longer made me so pissed lol
It's like someone claiming scum in a normal game of mafia, and surviving the lynch.
Then I'm like askjaskjpdjadjas and you are like apapasdifasdfjsadfjsda and we all aoiphasnopisdufhpasdjfpsdajfas together.
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On February 07 2013 04:13 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 04:03 gonzaw wrote:
Well Acro, maybe it was Dandel....but you certainly seemed too "furious" regarding Suck. Although I know that feeling since I have it at times (that "tunnelly" feel)
The thing about being a "dick" was the whole "I'm never playing with marv again, he's a shitty shit regardless of alignment" and that kind of stuff. Syllo asked whether I was quitting Bugs' game because of Marv, and what had happened. What was I supposed to respond? No, I really enjoyed playing this last game with Marv, it was fun? I think I made my feelings abundantly clear in the long post. I did not enjoy playing the game these last 2 days (realtime days). When Marv's response to the long post was to basically state that I had no right to feel that way, I was clearly angry and just posted what I said in private, in public. Maybe I shouldn't have done that, but maybe Marv shouldn't have read a post in which I was clearly upset and said "you don't get to be upset".
Look, I'm genuinely sorry I upset you. But I was also not having a great time either, it's a two-way street.
On February 05 2013 02:57 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
If there is no way it could be uncovered that he didn't help out with killing off the scum, I can see no reason why you'd cooperate in shooting your scumbuddy. If we said "attack him with your 5/5, or you're confirmed scum", then sure. But the situation was:
1. Xfire is going to die, regardless.
2. Aperture is almost certainly going to die, but town might not have enough damage.
Aperture adds to town's damage, further increasing the likelihood that 2 will happen, for no apparent gain. The only gain is that someone like Dandel comes along and says "wait, there was no reason to cast that fork". Ockham's Razor says that that is far more unlikely than that Aperture is town and wanted to contribute in killing scum any way he can, seeing as his deck has failed him spectacularly.
PS. We drew complete crap from the Bazaar. We can do 11 damage this turn.
On February 05 2013 03:08 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Whatever, I don't have to convince YOU, because you're scum. Town Marv would have recognized the strength of this argument ages ago.
Everybody else: Aperture is town. Suck is scum. Act accordingly
Basically you deem me certain mafia for making a completely correct analysis on Aperture's actions and then tunnel me for the rest of the game based on imaginary scumslips and 'gems' and 'mafia agenda'. This was UNBELIEVABLY frustrating, and I dealt with it badly, sure. But I was right and I was being called certain mafia because I was right.
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On February 07 2013 04:11 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 04:07 MidnightGladius wrote:
The more I think about this, the less I think it's possible to balance the game with user-submitted decks. Maybe if everyone picked their favorite preconstructed Theme Deck? There are just so many ways to break the game with 9 players :D The original game had us submit a deck idea to artanis and he would make the deck for us. The trouble was that is incredibly time consuming. Perhaps selection a preconstructed deck would be optimal.
Yeah.
I think it could be better if each "pre-constructed" deck was like the roles of a normal game.
Then a VT "deck" would be dull or have little stuff and just normal monsters that attack, but then a Vig deck would be a super heavy 1-shot burn deck for instance, then a Medic "deck" would be a green healer one, then a Vet "deck" would be full of protecting abilities, etc.
You choose the number of decks you want in your game, and RNG it between people.
You RNG it with scum as well to avoid guessing the setup (since you can't "fake-claim" your deck).
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On February 07 2013 04:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 04:13 Acrofales wrote:On February 07 2013 04:03 gonzaw wrote:
Well Acro, maybe it was Dandel....but you certainly seemed too "furious" regarding Suck. Although I know that feeling since I have it at times (that "tunnelly" feel)
The thing about being a "dick" was the whole "I'm never playing with marv again, he's a shitty shit regardless of alignment" and that kind of stuff. Syllo asked whether I was quitting Bugs' game because of Marv, and what had happened. What was I supposed to respond? No, I really enjoyed playing this last game with Marv, it was fun? I think I made my feelings abundantly clear in the long post. I did not enjoy playing the game these last 2 days (realtime days). When Marv's response to the long post was to basically state that I had no right to feel that way, I was clearly angry and just posted what I said in private, in public. Maybe I shouldn't have done that, but maybe Marv shouldn't have read a post in which I was clearly upset and said "you don't get to be upset". Look, I'm genuinely sorry I upset you. But I was also not having a great time either, it's a two-way street. Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 02:57 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
If there is no way it could be uncovered that he didn't help out with killing off the scum, I can see no reason why you'd cooperate in shooting your scumbuddy. If we said "attack him with your 5/5, or you're confirmed scum", then sure. But the situation was:
1. Xfire is going to die, regardless.
2. Aperture is almost certainly going to die, but town might not have enough damage.
Aperture adds to town's damage, further increasing the likelihood that 2 will happen, for no apparent gain. The only gain is that someone like Dandel comes along and says "wait, there was no reason to cast that fork". Ockham's Razor says that that is far more unlikely than that Aperture is town and wanted to contribute in killing scum any way he can, seeing as his deck has failed him spectacularly.
PS. We drew complete crap from the Bazaar. We can do 11 damage this turn. Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 03:08 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Whatever, I don't have to convince YOU, because you're scum. Town Marv would have recognized the strength of this argument ages ago.
Everybody else: Aperture is town. Suck is scum. Act accordingly Basically you deem me certain mafia for making a completely correct analysis on Aperture's actions and then tunnel me for the rest of the game based on imaginary scumslips and 'gems' and 'mafia agenda'. This was UNBELIEVABLY frustrating, and I dealt with it badly, sure. But I was right and I was being called certain mafia because I was right.
You made it a two-way street yourself.
And if you think THAT was our only reason for thinking you were scum you didn't read the game.
Well, whatever.
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On February 07 2013 04:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also Artanis, first of great game (and sorry Acro is such a salty guy when he feels unfairly treated) :D
Just tell me one thing:
Did you make Cross mafia on purpose? That dude had the most scum deck ever, lol. Shaman (fking op card), syphon, god knows what else was in there.
All alignments are RNGed. The sooner people know this the better as I hate it when people get lynched based on setup speculation (He wouldn't make two newbies mafia! He wouldn't make the two most experienced players mafia! etc.) If everyone knows this by next game, I'll be happy.
On February 07 2013 04:11 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 04:07 MidnightGladius wrote:
The more I think about this, the less I think it's possible to balance the game with user-submitted decks. Maybe if everyone picked their favorite preconstructed Theme Deck? There are just so many ways to break the game with 9 players :D The original game had us submit a deck idea to artanis and he would make the deck for us. The trouble was that is incredibly time consuming. Perhaps selection a preconstructed deck would be optimal.
I'd be willing to do this but I think part of the charm is people making their own decks, since then you get more invested in the process of the game.
Also, what's everyone's opinion of the games being hydra based? I think it adds to the game but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
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right dandel, and all your arguments were wrong, that's why it was frustrating, and you absolutely refused to listen on why i was right about aperture. what's a dude supposed to do. acro's argument was 'town marv would 100% agree with me on this!' when town marv disagreed and was right to disagree. having made that pronouncement, suddenly being right is a mafia-tell.
i've apologised for being an ass, but my frustration was at having 1000 bad/incorrect points levelled at me, while having my correct points on aperture ignored.
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Hmmm.. I kinda agree that preselected decks might be ok... although I really wanted to make a deck with lotsa mana elves and then cast ginormous hydras
*sigh
't was a beautiful dream
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I didn't mind the hydra's at all. Imagine if grey and s&b had not had a partner to play with.. what a lurkfest this game would have been.
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