Parallel World Mafia: Chaos of GreY
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On December 12 2012 09:26 Clarity_nl wrote: The worlds alternate lynch/swap, so we should lynch scum and swap scum (and during the swapday convince the other world why the person being swapped is scum.) I think it works the other way, If we swap scum to the other side, it will be swap day when he gets there. | ||
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Unless we somehow find somebody on our world who we want to lynch ahead of their second scummiest person in which case that person survives an extra day. Sounds likes a lot work for something that may not even be better since this would require their world to have two reads and their weaker read being stronger than our strongest. Unless we are willing to let our strongest read go un-lynched for the purpose killing everybody in one world to confirm the rest. I started all that when I first saw sandro's idea, and by the time I finished it looked like even sandro changed his mind, but screw it I wrote it up I'm positing it. | ||
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Are we actually losing lynch days though? we are still lynching just from one side first. Once we clear one world we can do the same thing for the other. They swap their second scummiest, and lynch the scummiest the next day. The net sum of lynches is still the same it's just focused on one side to get some free confirmed townies. | ||
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On December 13 2012 07:49 marvellosity wrote: you don't really understand how to play mafia, do you? I understand you are scum! Easiest game of my life, I've already found both scum its Palmer and marvellosity. GG | ||
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It does end in about 12 hours right? | ||
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What's up with that objection? a joke cause sloosh said it? | ||
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About me not giving reads, NOBODY is giving real reads at the moment only they lean one way or another or simple "I have read his filter and he seems townie." I was called out specifically and I answered. Would you have preferred "I read your filter I like you." ? Even you austin, with all your posts have not come out and said I feel strongly about one person or another. Sure you came out and made a decision with you objection, but none of those were "I feel he is sure town" before you confirmation. About the whole swap idea. I still think it has potential since I said at the beginning I like facts and using the swap system to get facts about "confirmed townies" is good.The idea of the second scummiest is that we will have the flip from their most scummiest target before we had to make a final decision on ours. So if it was a one or the other option and the main target was scum then good, one down. If we got that decision wrong then at least the second target will die a day sooner. and that still leading towards the confirmed townie thing I like. If somehow we got both targets wrong then that's probably on the town for messing up rather than the idea being invalid. There is a valid concern about stacking one side with mafia so they will be able to control the vote, but I think if mafia control the vote that way they will be exposing themselves. And worst case scenario they swapped us their second scummiest and he turns out scum and their primary target was townie. That still leads us with a decent lynch target who the mafia will have to make direct defenses of if they want to save him. And after that they still only have 3/(11-9 depending on if we mislynch today and if they kill somebody from our world) votes which is not enough to control the vote. Dunno, maybe 3/9 is cutting it too close since 5 out of the 6 non mafia have to vote against the mafia. At the time it felt like a good idea, and I'm still not convinced the idea itself is bad, although there might be better ones. | ||
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On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: The best information the town has is from the start of the game "each world will begin with 2 mafia". So far people have not taken this into high consideration As far as I know only one person came up with a plan to take advantage of this (sand) Who was coincidentally mafia's first target. Oh, and who know who was sand's biggest (only) supporter of that plan? ME. So if your going to call it a good idea to focus on that fact you should realize who supported actions which would take the biggest advantage of that fact. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: randombum? Yes, definitely mafia. Why? General avoidance to any topic of discussion. He simply has not said anything about anything the town is talking about. What has honestly been "discussed". Nearly everybody has had the same/similar opinion. There was lynching you which everybody agreed on. There was austin's list which everybody pretty much narrowed it down to the same 3 or 4 people. The only real discussion (read divided opinions involving more than 2 people) was how to use the swap mechanic and I was there. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: randombum never talked about myself or marvellosity when the two of us were having a larger penis contest. I felt it pointless to get into a penis contest when it started as A: "B is scum!" and B responses "No, A is scum!" Apparently B won that since the whole town agreed to lynch you. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: His lynch was avoided because one or two people said they thought he was innocent (I believe austin and clarity were the two, could be wrong though). You write that as if I somehow escaped getting lynched (Note: that was your lynch that was avodied) If you actually read the threads it was neither austin or clarity that supported me. The only person to throw suspicion on me was austin, and even his post was along the lines of "he's on my list and I like him LEAST" Also, there was not a single vote for me ever that day, so I don't know what I'm supposedly avoiding. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: Given that he was one of 4 choices to be lynched he was awfully quiet I don't know what you consider quiet. I responded to direct questions and posted my opinions. I wasn't nearly as vocal as austin, but that's because he has like 2/3 the posts in the thread since he's been here. On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: He random voted for Palmar day 1 without any justification (read his filter if you don't believe me), hopped on the Kenpachi bandwagon, and hasn't said anything since. The vote on Palmer was random, but I don't see how that points towards an alignment on day 1. The kenpachi vote was because there was under an hour before deadline, and not enough people wanted to lynch austin to check his role. I hopped on the wagon because I was trying to help avoid a no-lynch and he was everybody's choice. And by choice he was really more like the least bad choice. Why I haven't said anything since? Its barely been 24 hours and it happened to be Friday night and Saturday afterwards. I had other things to do. The bulk of your post has so many mistakes which to me implies you are not really reading the thread and are trying to avoid getting lynched tomorrow and the fact that you lock onto the only target that some people have showed some doubts on to try to save yourself in a last ditch effort. I mean you even accuse palmer when you claim this about austin On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: It should be apparent from Austin's filter that he's either a town trying to do something or he's mafia with some master grand scheme using his role to confirm his mafia buddy as he watches the town crumble (the latter is very unlikely). And this On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote: Again Austin is the only true town player here Either he's town and Palmer is town, or he is mafia which you call very unlikely. I cannot see a scenario where austin is both town and Palmer is anti-town. I don't think anybody who reads the thread can come up with that scenario either. | ||
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On December 17 2012 05:40 austinmcc wrote: Randombum, What did you mean by this statement to clarity? (This was from D1, when he swapped Keirathi and I) That was more of a knee-jerk reaction. I saw foolishness getting swapped over as bad and wanted to blame the person I saw responsible. Don't make much of it. | ||
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I can see how a town or mafia can stop responding in the thread if they thought they were dead, but I feel like a town would catch up and get his information correct before claiming so positively somebody is mafia. | ||
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On December 14 2012 07:17 randombum wrote: I'll start from newest: About the whole clarity swap thing and my response. The way I see it information is a good thing. In that light, lynching somebody is a good thing because it gives us facts. After clarity's swap with foolishness getting removed I felt like oh now he won't flip and we won't get any information. Sure my vote wasn't on foolishness at the time, but I knew I would be back before I thought it ended (around 12 hours from when I went to bed it turned out to be 16, but still fine). Regardless, at the time foolishness already had 6 votes, and that's enough to get him lynched. I probably would've swapped at the end just in case somebody decides to un-vote. From the look of things it seems like there will be a no-lynch today simply because its almost deadline and there's maybe 6 people reading the thread who all have to agree on somebody to see them lynched in time. So my misgivings are at least valid. | ||
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Scrum Foolishness Keirathi/Marvellosity Remaining scum is probably one of these two leaning marv. Clarity_nl: I feel he's moire 3p than scum. Crossfire99/SlOosh Pretty much confirmed though austin. randombum: Me clearly town. KenpachiDienosorePalmar: Dead, flipped town. Town For those who started in Igrok Mafia Mementoss/ Blazinghand/ These are probably the two mafia. Foolishness calls them both not mafia. Darkfirex5: If one of those two above is town its probably this guy. Has said almost nothing, activates an ability that seems to be really bad. Hassybaby: Hasn't said much at all, his Lucy claim seems believable, but that might not necessarily be a town role, but by the time he would be lynchable after all my preferred mafia game would probably be over. Clarity_nl: Again probably 3p Yamato77: On foolishness's mafia list so I feel he is town. Risen: partnered with 99, probably town. On foolishness's mafia list so doubly town. Sandroba/austinmcc: Dead confirmed town Town | ||
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Right after you asked the first time he said On December 18 2012 10:08 marvellosity wrote: ##Guarantee: slOosh Maybe that's another spell, but seeing as how he gave you double vote with his worship too I think there's something special about you to him. More importantly: I'm very worried about darkfire's destabilization move. The new element to this themed game is this whole swap mechanic and his move has been charging for 3 days now so it;s going to be something big. This makes me worried darkfire's "fun stuff" is us being unable to swap anymore. An extra worry is that if it does prevent swapping and foolish/keir are the two mafia (which is quite possible) then right now all 4 mafia are on that side + we will be unable to swap anymore which pretty much means town loses. | ||
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After the dieno mis lynch: On December 17 2012 22:14 marvellosity wrote: Let's see. ##Activate Alternate Wincon I know, I know. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. Pretty much seems like he was like "nope, town ain't winning this" | ||
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On December 19 2012 08:25 Crossfire99 wrote: Randombum, what's with the ninja vote on foolish? Didn't have anything to add to discussion other than I think foolishness should get lynched so I voted for him. | ||
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Since the obvious question will be "well randombum what is you role?" I'm going to disclose that it's the miller. On December 12 2012 10:18 randombum wrote: Maybe I'll declaer what my role is. It worked really well in the single mafia game I played. The sentence itself gives a clue "my role is." and I purposely mispell declare so I can get the er to finish out miller. | ||
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