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also i still want an answeer to my question about why you might want to lynch jay. are you accusing me of being scum right now by saying i'm too lazy? | ||
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On December 18 2012 08:42 Vivax wrote: You can still try WHAT? To convince 4 players who aren't reading your posts? yeah because some jackass is telling me to stfu | ||
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On December 18 2012 09:41 jaybrundage wrote: If you assume im town then it makes perfect sense. BUT YOU have to go with the premise that im town. Does anything im doing make sense form a scum perspective. ofcnot Now get of VE lynch thrawn i think your town but we need you to step up right now and get off of VE lynch o.0 | ||
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On December 18 2012 09:44 jaybrundage wrote: wtf guys why is no one moving we have like 14 mins left what do you think about a move to hapa? | ||
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Part 1 - Munk-e + Show Spoiler + On December 17 2012 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote: I agree with marv about hapa but I want to point out some things about munk-e Just from looking at munke's filter I'm surprised that hapa hasn't received that much attention. Everything munke said was scummy. Here's his first entrance into the thread: The tone of the post seems fake. At first he acts really friendly and talks about how he's going to do a more in depth reading of the thread... which is implying that he has at least read the thread. And he decides to attack wbg over the stupid wbg 80% remark? He even insults wbg ("did you sleep through math class") so he is pretty committed to this line of questioning. The 80% stuff is a scum topic and he's all the more scummier for it because it was the only thing he talked about. I point some of this out to him and then he posts: He talks about other stuff that makes wbg scummy... why didn't he mention this in his first post about wbg? And the new argument for the accusation he made about the 80% stuff was awful. After all of that his read onw wbg totaled up to "It just seems weird to me." Later on Munke posts: So now he goes back on his non committal wbg read using a wifom argument and now we're at 0 reads for wbg. He also throws in the completely irrelevant line about not all scum being lurkers.... how does this help us? Then there's his final post, his vote for adam: "Woah?" Lol. Is he sitting at his computer reeling in shock thinking about possible last minute scum shenanigans? He hasn't said anything at all about any other player than wbg but he says this important part: I do not believe that a guy who's only contributions to the thread are making a half accusation against wbg which he later takes back and a comment about scum not being lurkers would be so sure and concerned about adam's lynch. He even talks about potential scumbuddies.... which reveals his underlying knowledge of adam's alignment. coming soon - part 2: hapa Part 2 - Hapa's opening posts + Show Spoiler + I don't like hapa's first real entrance to the thread: On December 12 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote: Regarding Djo I'm not sure if anyone's brought it up, but I watched Palmar's video and was really surprised he skipped over one of his posts in his analysis: The underlined bit is a very strange thing for a townie to say. Townies are a naturally suspicious folk, and a line of reasoning that assumes someone is not scum really goes against this mentality. Of course I'm not going to judge him on one post, but if there's anyone I could call a scum-read right now, it would be Djo. I didn't have a problem with djo's line "If I take your word for jay and assume that you are not scum yourself." Djo was involved with a discussion with wbg and wbg was probing djo for alternate scumreads. I don't expect hapa to miss something like this which he later claimed here: On December 12 2012 13:09 Hapahauli wrote: Ah see this is why I should catch up before I pull the trigger. Hapa ended the first post about djo with "Of course I'm not going to judge him on one post, but if there's anyone I could call a scum-read right now, it would be Djo." That's an incredibly weak read to make and hapa didn't even go so far as examining the context of djo's post. I don't think a town hapa who had watched palmar's video would enter the thread like this. There's also an interesting exchange between hapa/boson starting with a z-boson post where hapa seems to be able to give a response to boson's case too quickly... this is what scum do because they immediately enter the thread with an agenda. In my experience town replacements are uneasy committing to any reads because they aren't familiar with the thread and haven't been in the game long enough to get a feel for all the players. Scum are often the opposite because they already know alignments. A little bit later tunkeg calls hapa out for the same kind of thing here. Part 3 - Hapa's scumhunting + Show Spoiler + Hapa doesn't make cases this game. I tried to look through his filter and tried to find cases and this might be the closest thing I could find to a normal aggressive hapa case but it's not really even close to a case. When town hapa makes cases he goes in depth on his reads and explicity says what he thinks and he has clearly aggressive objective. That's not at all how he's played this game. He is writing it off as him not putting as much into this game as he normally would but this hapa still is too passive to be town hapa regardless of if his activity explanations are legitimate. Day 3 VE's lynch + Show Spoiler + Day 3 starts with Hapa voting for VE. He does this despite not really pushing for a ve lynch or talking about him beforehand. Marv calls him out for it and hapa says "no I do have legitimate reasons to vote for ve" and links to this post: On December 15 2012 10:18 Hapahauli wrote: Not time to vote Palmar. I'll have to look between jay, VE, BL, and Z-Bo for the next scummer. I was planning to post question VE about one of his posts if Tunkeg flipped red. That sadly didn't happen, but the post seems relevant regardless: The bolded is a pretty strong statement. I'm not sure if it's just poor wording or not, but he seems to be putting some heavy suspicion on Tunkeg, then dancing around the issue in favor of Z-Bo. I can't find much other than that post that would make me think hapa would have been considering a VE lynch. And the content of the post itself is not much of commitment to a read on VE. The next section of hapa's filter for D3 is almost completely composed of hapa defending himself. There was a lot of momentum for a djo or ve lynch and this would not have been a good use of a town hapa's time, especially when his vote and stance on VE was pretty weak to begin with. Then Ve's claim comes out and here is hapa's reaction to it: On December 18 2012 07:38 Hapahauli wrote: interesting. I'll have to think about whether it's true or not. If no one counterclaims, I could get behind a Jay lynch. His tunnel on Djo felt really forced all through today. For myself, VE's claim is what made me ok with settling for VE lynch instead of a hapa lynch. Boson said ve was "lying through his teeth." He goes back and forth on what to do but pretty quickly decides not to trust the claim. I said VE's claim looked too easy to pull off. Vivax didn't believe the claim. Djo didn't believe the claim because ve hadn't committed to defending djo because of the green check. But hapa seems the least suspicious about the claim out of everyone. He said it looks too risky for a fake claim.... but scum have already tried to claim vigi this game! It didn;t look risky at all... there is no way to confirm it if we don't already have a cop (which wasn't likely due to the number of blues already) to counterclaim. At this point hapa is suggesting we lynch Jay. On December 18 2012 08:43 Hapahauli wrote: I want to lynch jay because his tunnel on Djo felt really forced. He's also afk for critical moments of the game (such as now) and he hasn't given me any reasons to think he's town. That's only if VE steps up though. But then comes this post: On December 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: I can't figure out a player that I'd feel comfortable switching onto. Jay's reactions so far don't seem scummy. He's setting himself up to draw alot of attention to himself regardless of how VE flips. Even Z-Bo seems alright. ...and who else? Bluelightz? Seems like a coin-flip. I disagreed then and now, Jay's actions did seem scummy at the time regardless of how I felt about VE's chances of being scum. I think this is the consensus of other people as well. But somehow hapa has the exact opposite reaction that everyone else had and no longer is down for lynching Jay... then he suggests we lynch Z-bo or bluelightz instead of either VE OR JAY... both people that hapa has weakly claimed to want to lynch in various parts of D3. | ||
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1. hapa 2. jay 3 grush 3 bl 3 boson 4 djo 5 marv | ||
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