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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17971 Posts
November 27 2012 19:58 GMT
#4261
On November 28 2012 04:54 TheChronicler wrote:
I'm an idiot.

I'll bite: why?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17971 Posts
November 27 2012 19:58 GMT
#4262
On November 28 2012 04:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
Except for the fact that we know Dieno took a boatload of damage already.

Ok. My vote is on Keir, though.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 19:59 GMT
#4263
Looking back, the seeming "difficulty" in finding townies on day 1 might just have been due to there being many really towny players who were, in fact, town. I had too many town reads and was starting to second guess myself based on everyone being town.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:00 GMT
#4264
On November 28 2012 04:58 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 04:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
Except for the fact that we know Dieno took a boatload of damage already.

Ok. My vote is on Keir, though.


I realize and I would prefer that over Dieno, although obviously not over myself.
I think the votes on Dieno are misguided. Like people don't want to think about it anymore, laziness
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 27 2012 20:02 GMT
#4265
On November 28 2012 05:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 04:58 Acrofales wrote:
On November 28 2012 04:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
Except for the fact that we know Dieno took a boatload of damage already.

Ok. My vote is on Keir, though.


I realize and I would prefer that over Dieno, although obviously not over myself.
I think the votes on Dieno are misguided. Like people don't want to think about it anymore, laziness

Dieno has also claimed that he has been healed significantly enough to where he doesn't feel he's in much danger of dying, and he was under the impression that the gift item was lore related, and would therefor give him his Masamune.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17971 Posts
November 27 2012 20:03 GMT
#4266
On November 28 2012 04:59 syllogism wrote:
Looking back, the seeming "difficulty" in finding townies on day 1 might just have been due to there being many really towny players who were, in fact, town. I had too many town reads and was starting to second guess myself based on everyone being town.

It's comforting to be in a game where the majority of people are actually able to play the game decently, isn't it? You missing people like Grush?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#4267
I'll have to go back and look, but I interpreted it as "I won't be dying this cycle because I got protected"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#4268
On November 28 2012 05:03 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 04:59 syllogism wrote:
Looking back, the seeming "difficulty" in finding townies on day 1 might just have been due to there being many really towny players who were, in fact, town. I had too many town reads and was starting to second guess myself based on everyone being town.

It's comforting to be in a game where the majority of people are actually able to play the game decently, isn't it? You missing people like Grush?

I wouldn't go that far. Going to leave this ambigious
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#4269
Oats also claimed his item had nothing to do with lore...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 27 2012 20:07 GMT
#4270
On November 28 2012 05:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats also claimed his item had nothing to do with lore...

Right. But not before people had already started voting Dieno. And I don't think Dieno has been back yet? I'm not sure, and too lazy to go back and look because it really doesn't matter that much who is the party leader other than Oats/Syllo.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:08 GMT
#4271
I don't see us failing this mission but I'd just like the item to be in the correct place. I'm not gonna fight tooth and nail for it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 27 2012 20:22 GMT
#4272
On November 28 2012 04:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 02:26 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:31 Acrofales wrote:
Shit. You people, can't you keep your conclusions about survivors to yourselves?

Seeing as the cat's pretty much out of the bag, I confirm I'm 3rd party. My wincon is to survive and do some stuff that I am not telling anybody about. I promise that the extra stuff is in town's best interest. Not saying anything more, because I suspect there are other people out there who have to kill me. Otherwise Drazerk's solution to playing a survivor will always work: claim D1 and go AFK (or in this case, claim D1 and help town to figure out how to fulfill the other part of my wincon, THEN go AFK).

This is also immediately the reason I don't want to be on a party. I asked Greymist whether my influence counts with town or scum, or whether I could choose. He told me that I cannot choose and that he's not saying what my influence counts as. I have no way of knowing my hidden influence factor. So.. no. There is no contradiction between my not wanting to be on the party and being really surprised at Keirathi's claim.

Think about it, though: scum was probably not feeling too comfortable on D3. D1 went town's way, D2 went further town's way. Why would they NOT want to take any opportunity to get on the party? Claiming not wanting to be on the party would be a ridiculously stupid move, unless you think scum is so afraid of being caught out through the party mechanic that they are going to hide all game while town figures them out and kills them one by one on the few lynch days we get?

Oh, I can claim some other stuff: I have a load of one-shot abilities, but don't know what they do. Part of my suspicions of Drazerk are founded on this: he claims to be able to figure out what his abilities do before using them. I am unable and have to use them and pray. I can make an educated guess using common sense and some help from the chronopedia to figure out what is likely, but I cannot know for certain. Not giving ability names either, as they are 100% linked to my character name.

On D1 I used an ability that I thought would mason me with 3 other people. Instead it did 75 damage to each of them. I hit Sandroba, Dienosore and BioSC with it. I wanted to chat with Sandroba and BioSC to figure out if they were scum or not. I wanted to chat with Dienosore about setup-related stuff that largely got resolved in the thread.

I already said what I did D2.

D3 I cannot reveal, as it says too much about me. This is the only one I breadcrumbed, though, so if I ever feel safe in claiming my name in full, you will be able to check it.



@Hopeless1derp: I have called you an idiot too many times this game, already, but here goes again. On the offchance you are really town (which I really don't think): you're an idiot. OF COURSE you want Lavos to appear when scum is dead. Fairly certain killing Lavos with scum alive is going to be harder than killing him with scum dead. It doesn't look like there's much opportunity to kill scum, so wasting whatever abilities you have to kill scum on me is beyond ridiculous. I also have rather a lot of HP and things that I really really suspect are heals.

There is 0 point to killing me and I am helping town as best I can. I have done more scumhunting than pretty much anybody except Marv. I was wrong on Sandroba, so /shrug. However, I DID find Toad. If you prefer I shut up and go afk for the rest of the game, say so. I am happy to leave you derps derping it up. This time I don't give a shit if the endgame has Kushes Fubas and Proms in it: I just need to not get killed once I have completed my other condition, which I am fairly confident I can do without your help.

*cough* *cough*

I'm broke. I have no more checks, I can't protect anyone else. There's a reason I didn't check hopeless against Toad. There's a reason I didn't check YOU against Toad.

Clarity between the two of us that means Marv took something greater than or equal to 550 damage if I'm adding correctly?


Ehm, if this was used on marv:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 10:55 TheChronicler wrote:
I'm going to claim my last night action since it's relevant and why I feel I shouldn't be party leader, but should be on the team.

100 gold Funnel cake You target a player. Places a 100 damage shield on target player (stays on them). You take 100 damage.

Night Results
You used Funnel cake!

You took 150 damage!


And isn't a lie, then yes. Marv took 550 damage last cycle.

Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17971 Posts
November 27 2012 20:28 GMT
#4273
Make sense already. Did you use the funnel cake on Marv? If so, why does that make you an idiot? If not, why does that make you an idiot?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:31 GMT
#4274
.... What?
Both of you confuse me.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 27 2012 20:37 GMT
#4275
Hey guys I just got back. I see my name's come up again, so I can answer whatever.

Judging by the estimated hit that marv took last night, I expect I can live through something similar, considering I also expect to get some protection to help out.

While I was notified that I had Masamune to fix, I was not given instructions on how. My first instinct was to run for party leader, so I did. Since then, people who receive gifts seemed to be VERY tight lipped about it. So now that we are choosing a leader again, I would of course like to run again before I'm dead. Honestly mafia KP is going to be very hard to judge since it looks like most people have various 1 shot abilities or some type of damage mitigation. It would be dumb for me to say I'm not 100% sure I'm not going to die, so if I could get a chance to repair my sword before I croak, it would definitely be beneficial for the town (as long as you could keep me alive).
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:40 GMT
#4276
Eh, fair enough.

##unvote
##Vote Dieno
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:43 GMT
#4277
On November 28 2012 05:28 Acrofales wrote:
Make sense already. Did you use the funnel cake on Marv? If so, why does that make you an idiot? If not, why does that make you an idiot?


Neither of you seem to be talking so, why was putting a shield on marv a bad idea? I don't think it was.

@ TC

You... realize you didn't post anything, right?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 20:43 GMT
#4278
On November 27 2012 20:04 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, turns out I didn't find Prom's roleclaim crumbs after all. Weird shit:

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 12:35 Promethelax wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:29 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:25 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 21 2012 11:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
random fluff post,
Lotta Brazilians :O


Useless. Don't post like this.

On November 21 2012 12:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I do not have any kind of read on anyone yet. He would be a good choice because if he's scum it'll show comparatively to his town play.


Who is he? I'm assuming Hapa.

----------------------------------------------

I'd like to be the party leader. I'm an unknown (hopefully) and no one will make stupid bullshit meta reads on the leader that would probably be worse than a coin flip. That's pretty much the only reason I want to lead. I don't even want to pick who will be the three on my team, which takes me to the next part of my pitch, and something I hope whoever is leader uses.

If I'm leader I don't want to choose the three people with me. I want to choose three people to choose three people who will be on the team. They can choose themselves if they'd like. Why do this? Because it gets us more information. If I'm not chosen leader I'd like the person who IS chosen to implement this system.

We still get information from who the leader chooses, AND we get information based upon who the three chosen people choose.


What in the actual fuck. Sure it's information but it's information impossible to decipher. Odds are you'll hit a scum somewhere in your massive pit of chaos but how will you tell the difference between him and the townie who just happened to get it wrong.


Scum will have to choose another person or risk showing their hand and causing the event to fail. Town can freely choose themselves since they know they'll only help with the event.

Doesn't seem chaotic to me. Why is it seeming chaotic to you?


This is fucking stupid. You are aware of this right? Everyone can and should pick themselves. Town know 100% that they are town and scum know that town 100% know themselves to be town so choosing anyone but themselves is butt fuck backwards. This explanation is well past pants on head.

Marv: while Hapa is a cute little hedgehog he is usually a responsive one. Not getting a scum read from his behavior but I am uncomfortable with him not explaining himself and getting defensive instead.

Why hedgehog? It is not an idiom I am familiar with (such as puppy). I thought this was a crumb for something.


A hedgehog because he was being so prickly. Defensive and a little bit smelly.

Okay, I've been thinking about this for the last few hours. I think I'll claim fully. I doubt this will help you get a town read on me but here goes.

I am "The Zeal Plant Woman" my time is antiquity. I have two active abilities

1) has been described over and over and over, I plant a seed on someone which, if it goes undisturbed for a full cycle it grows into a 200hp shield on the targeted player. If it is disturbed by any other player or players using their abilities on the target it role blocks all players who targeted my target. This ability resolves before other abilities so Sand's frame bus did not work. I can only have one seed planted per night, so if one already exists I cannot plant another until it either grows into a shield or is destroyed.

2) I have an ability which targets a single player and makes all actions done to either of us split evenly between us.

I have a passive mad hatter ability which does damage to a target of my choice when I die. This is part of the reason I asked to be flipped.

My night one action was using the first ability on Syllo
On night two I was going to seed Dieno but was too late sending in my actions
night three I tried to seed Dieno again but was roleblocked by Syllo. I also took 25 damage (meaning someone protected me for at least 50 HP according to Sylo).

As I said I don't think this will clear much up.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 27 2012 20:45 GMT
#4279
On November 28 2012 05:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 05:28 Acrofales wrote:
Make sense already. Did you use the funnel cake on Marv? If so, why does that make you an idiot? If not, why does that make you an idiot?


Neither of you seem to be talking so, why was putting a shield on marv a bad idea? I don't think it was.

@ TC

You... realize you didn't post anything, right?


I meant that as far as scum was concerned my shield could have been on anybody. I forgot I hadn't said who my target was.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 20:46 GMT
#4280
I plan on targeting a member of the party or the party leader with my first ability tonight. I will not reveal my target so that mafia is forced to claim their roleblocks.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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