EPTThat being said, I completely understand SDM's vote to me, but I have not changed my opinion on CC.
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That being said, I completely understand SDM's vote to me, but I have not changed my opinion on CC. | ||
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On November 25 2012 14:53 yamato77 wrote: I don't really care for your topics of discussion, but that's about it. Perhaps I should have explained then, but I meant that I didn't like the way he entered the thread. His little questionnaire was really, really pointless. It seemed to me at the time something that a mafia player might do to appear to be "starting discussion" without putting anything of real value in the thread. Thus, I limited my posting intentionally as to not really do anything except react to other people and try to get them to give information. Aqua was willing; I asked him his thoughts on me and Cheesecake and he gave them, without any questions. It was then that Cheesecake asked me my opinion of him, and I gave the aforementioned answer. Then he asked me what I thought the discussion should be about, and I told him, I thought us (Aqua and I) talking about whether he was acting suspicious was fine. I called out Oats for calling him scum, which I was not ready to do without more solid evidence, and have not done so yet. My next post received a lot of heat. I posted my ill-timed opinion of Mr. Cheesecake. I was being honest. Nothing looked like worthwhile contribution up to that point, to me. It still doesn't. He says he has contributed, but I don't see anything except a poor read on Helos he backed away from, continually attacking me for voicing my opinion of him, and defending himself. He has posted no other reads on anyone else. I keep saying these same things and they are still true. I want to know what people think of me because I don't want to be surprised by more votes on me like I was with SDM's. I didn't like his voting of me because I didn't think people would honestly give a scum read on me based on my posting up to that point. I suppose I was wrong, which is why I've since become much more forthcoming with my thoughts and motivations. As far as reads on other people. Kickstarter's sheer aggression when defending Cheesecake against Oats is astounding. He uses vulgar language more than once and seems wholly preoccupied with Oats' vote being on CC. He doesn't even care if other people think Oats is scum necessarily, so why did he vote for him? The play doesn't really make sense because all he did was cause a whole lot of uproar over a play that no one else saw as scummy. If anything, THAT seems like a scum play. That being said, Oats is definitely not a town read. None of his posting is particularly forthcoming about his actual motivation. His vote on CC, while initially seeming like a pressure vote, hasn't been justified properly. SDM and Aqua are probably town. They have posted the most real content up to this point and their arguments have been clearly motivated. Helo is a less troll version of Oats. None of his play is backed with clear motivation, but it is not inherently scummy either. If Jacob misspells my name one more time I will lynch him. In seriousness, I think he has posted a lot of fluff and rehashed arguments. I am interested in who he reads as blue, though. I have a blue read too. Munk-E is seriously lackluster. I would vote for him over CC if I made a choice right now. I don't like CC's play but I don't like how little Munk has contributed and how long he has lurked. So to rank my reads from scummiest to least it would go: Munk-E Cheesecake Kickstarter (area of ambiguity) Jacob Helo Oats (/end area of ambiguity) SDM Aqua Me | ||
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What do you think about me? What about Munk-E? Any reads other than Oats? | ||
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If he posts anything useful at all in the few hours I am sleeping after this post, I will change it, because I really don't like lynching people just because they lurk. However, right now, I have to place a vote just in case I oversleep drastically and he really is the best candidate. CC and kick still on my scumdar. Jacob, Helo, and Oats are not far from it, either. | ||
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I really don't like how Jacob and Munk have voted on me after it became apparent that Munk was going to be lynched if mafia didn't bus someone else. Could definitely be a mafia tactic if Munk was indeed mafia. Munk's post on me said literally nothing anyone else hasn't said. He quoted me a bunch and called it all "defending myself" when a ton of it gave reads on players. I'm telling you guys all this because I feel a mislynch of me is definitely possible D1 and you will need serious direction D2. Kick doesn't seem that scummy anymore. I can see town kick doing what he did. I just hope he contributes more D2 than going after Oats. Top scumreads are Munk, CC, Jacob. Jacob has literally not posted any reads that weren't just sheeping other people, and tons of his posts thus far were largely or completely fluff. CC is attacking me for the same thing, but my posts have lately been full of my complete thoughts and motivations. CC could be tunneling me because I was tunneling him, but the guy hasn't got off my vote or said anything else of real value THE WHOLE GAME. Munk comes in and votes for me, and then leaves. Easy mafia cop out play. Believe me or not. You guys can make a play D1 against mafia bussing me or you can make decisions day 2 after my mislynch. | ||
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Aqua's case against kick was half-decent at the time because kick's reaction to Oats voting you was strange. Town read. Oats is playing bad either way. Not convincing enough for me to vote him. Null read, leaning scum. Pretty sure I've said all this. | ||
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If I read you as scum, then Oats is automatically less so because I highly doubt scum would do this to their partner day 1. But the possibility is that he is scum and you are not. Helo hasn't exactly done anything particularly scummy even if Munk is town. He called out a lurker. A safe play, but not alignment indicative. I don't even know why I type this. You aren't going to take anything I say seriously. You have tunneled me SO HARD this game. It's absurd. I'm frustrated because of futility in posting anything in response to you because everyone twists it into "defending myself" when I do things like this. It creates unproductive discussion about my intentions. Obviously I know they are town, but no one else believes me because YOU have managed to throw enough doubt on my alignment to make people see it as scum. | ||
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On November 27 2012 07:08 Kickstart wrote: Well I have to get ready to leave for class and once I am gone I won't be here until after the lynch. With that, it looks like the person being lynched right now is Yamato, so I would like to direct a question to him. Yamato, if this is going to be a mys-lynch can you provide us with your top scumreads? Who is the scummiest to you and who do you think we should be getting rid of? Set us up for a good day 2 if you are town. I will be here a bit longer and will read and comment if I need to so there is still time to convince me. I already did this. Read my filter. It really seems like you haven't honestly read my filter the whole game, based on your reads on me. Get to it. | ||
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Jacob, equally, has contributed nothing of real value. If he's off playing a video game like he claims (terrible cop-out), then perhaps you guys need to pressure him into making reads that aren't complete fluff like posting a whole paragraph deciphering if I slept the right amount of time in his opinion. His vote on me seems contrived, as does Munk-E's, because neither one cast serious suspicion on me before placing their vote. MUNK-E IS SCUM. He has lurked the whole game for no good reason. His two serious posts are mostly content-less reasons to sheep his vote on a player already under heat. I see absolutely zero town motivation in his actions at this point. If I get lynched, your day 2 should be DESTROYING him for how terrible he is playing. | ||
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On November 27 2012 07:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: ?????????? How do you "Obviously know" people are town ?????????????? I know my motivations are town. Not people. Read better. | ||
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On November 27 2012 08:27 JacobStrangelove wrote: Wrong I had you under serious suspicion for years before that vote. Anyway just woke up and am reading the thread. If your "serious suspicion" is the post I referenced where the entire content is saying you believe me when I say I was sleeping, then it wasn't serious at all, in my opinion. Give a read on someone that isn't completely terrible. | ||
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People have attacked me this game from literally every angle but the one-liner thing that you posted is seriously a terrible argument. It also wasn't original at all. other than that, I don't think you've really cast your own suspicions on my play. | ||
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