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On November 07 2012 00:59 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 00:55 drazak wrote:
what. there was no penis in mouth joke. what are you smoking.
I made it clear when I fucking put the vote on him, it was to pressure him into active because he was lurking like a bitch and gettinga way with it, I was the first one to call him on lurking. The idiom which was used was 'put your penis where your vote is' it is derived from the coming saying 'put your money where your mouth is' extrapolate as you will. Yes, you put a pressure vote on him and left it there for 48 hours. Four minutes before deadline you removed that vote and placed it on a town read of yours. Why?
I meant common saying. Not sure how coming got in there O.o
also yes, I am making a joke about how you suck penis. Okay good, glad we got past that.
Fubes: tell me more about your other scum read/s. What was it specifically that made you flip flop on drazak?
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ebwop: no worries, classes happen I'm in one too. Just ignoring the crap out of my prof. If you are still playing I am okay with slow playing while in school. Just be concise and use your time well.
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Would prefer some gut reads from you now (now=before night ends) Fuba, I know how hard it can be but just let them into the thread but we need those reads to exist before the next day cycle begins.
Okay, glad you saw the light on Draz.
Dra: you were in thread not answering my questions but you seem to have scampered off now. This is sup-optimal play as any alignment. Your goal is not to get yourself lynched but that is what you are doing. Get in here and reply to my last questions of you with a nice long thought process post. Why did you do the things that you did? What was your mind-set? What were you hoping to accomplish?
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That is all I ask. I hope I'm alive d3 to talk about them. We'll see.
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On November 07 2012 02:26 mkfuba07 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 08:38 kushm4sta wrote:
My flavor theory grows stronger...
town- non character
power roles- villain
mafia/sk- hero (bugs bunny, jessica rabbit, road runner) Which of kush's "vt names" has flipped scum, again?
punch clock
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On November 07 2012 02:32 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 02:29 Promethelax wrote:On November 07 2012 02:26 mkfuba07 wrote:On November 04 2012 08:38 kushm4sta wrote:
My flavor theory grows stronger...
town- non character
power roles- villain
mafia/sk- hero (bugs bunny, jessica rabbit, road runner) Which of kush's "vt names" has flipped scum, again? punch clock That was just a fakeclaim.
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Sorry that didn't actually communicate what I intended it to.
yes, that was a fake claim that Kush thought had to be town, now he knows that claims of inanimate objects do not mean town.
Also, Risk, that is what you have to add to the thread since you've been gone? That a fake claim was fake is something we all know, that the person claiming it was scum is another thing we all know.
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I was also looking at vote counts and claims, let me provide you with some lists (which I hate and are inherently scummy but I doubt that all the players in this game are doing the leg work).
Thrawn – Claim: 1 shot cop (bugs bunny) zealos - dead jk (daffy duck)
Promethelax – claim: Marvin Acme matt - dead rb (sylvester J pussycat)
Hopeless – dead GF (Road Runner)
kush – claim vt Anvil Muso – dead vt Kid Watching TV
draz – claim vt Carrot
Vote counts:
Not on d1 lynch: Acro, Release and Muso (all three on Promethelax)
Not on d2 lynch: Release, Kush (on Kush and DP respectively) and Hopeless (on Acro)
Did scum receive safe claims? Did the SK?
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EBWOP:
Thrawn – Claim: 1 shot cop (bugs bunny) zealos - dead jk (daffy duck)
Promethelax – claim: Marvin Acme matt - dead rb (sylvester J pussycat)
draz – claim vt Carrot Hopeless – dead GF (Road Runner)
kush – claim vt Anvil Muso – dead vt Kid Watching TV
stupid formatting.
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Bah, that wasn't any better. Ah well, you get the point.
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you uh, may want to unedit.
Kush you see that answer? Okay good, they just might have safe claims so stop using your flavour theory now.
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On November 07 2012 03:24 Acrofales wrote:
Regarding safeclaims: Hopeless1der basically admitted to the fact that they have them. So stfu about that bullcrap theory.
I know he did. I pointed it out to Kush. I wanted Hiro to say yes so that Kush would stop it forever but I'll hope that the possibility is good enough. Can we collectively, as a thread, say that flavour theory voting is based on a scum agenda and not welcome here. I'm saying that. Kush, voting based on flavour is not welcome here and is scum oriented.
Acro has a good point on Kush, if we end up in lylo he shouldn't be assumed to be green but if we lynch the framer/not framer we will know a lot more about the sum team and I for one really don't want to lynch into a green check just because he is a giant troll. Also WBG could have put two GFs in the game, never eliminate possibilities for no reason.
Fuba, why did you ask that question?
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I see you got the same feeling from that question as I did Risk. God, that is what makes seeing you as scum so hard but you aren't really contributing. Can I expect a dawn post from you with reads in it?
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On November 07 2012 03:37 mkfuba07 wrote:
Wait for it.
oh, hmmm. You know when to post and I trust you'll do it right.
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On November 07 2012 03:47 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 03:36 Promethelax wrote:
I see you got the same feeling from that question as I did Risk. God, that is what makes seeing you as scum so hard but you aren't really contributing. Can I expect a dawn post from you with reads in it? Why? Scum should get the same conclusion about fuba. I haven't really read the thread or scum hunted since last night. So probably no dawn post. I just wanted to make sure people didn't miss fuba claim SK.
Because that isn't the first instance of you posting my thoughts before I post them. Townie mindset.
Well there are 3 or 4 hours left. Throw one together. Be afraid to die.
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Already sent in my absentee ballot. Don't you worry.
Kush, Acro didn't claim vt, just his Name, though you are right I should have remembered to put him on the list.
Acro, I wasn't saying that particular thought of Risk's made his mindset seem townie. There have been a number of occasions when he has said essentially exactly what I wanted to say. This was one of those times.
My last post will be in about 1.5 hours. I think my reads are pretty clear and since that is before the action deadline I don't want to just give scum a big list of exactly what they want to know.
I want input on this though, is it more beneficial to town for me to give my full list of reads before the action deadline or to not post them at all unless I survive until d3.
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On November 07 2012 05:44 Release wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 07 2012 03:22 Acrofales wrote:
Okay... Release. We have established that you don't like my style of writing cases. Is there anything that you actually find scummy, rather than unlikeable?
As for the dichotomy, it entirely 100% covers all cases. I just posted the 4 possible situations (discounting SK, who for all intents and purposes has the same information as town at that point). If you feel the conclusions I draw from one of them is wrong (namely, as you indicate, that I am scum and was pulling the bluff of the century), you are free to say so. You're wrong, btw.
Now a bit more about the cases.
I'm not going to claim my case on Hopeless1der was terribly strong. At the time I wasn't actually planning on voting with it. It was more an update of my findings, because earlier I had listed Hopeless1der as reading townie and I found that I no longer did so. It was more a case to gather feedback and spark discussion than a "lets lynch Hopeless" case at the time. However, as time went on I found Prom looking slightly less scummy. My entire thought process is layed out in the thread: I even wanted to no-lynch at one point, because nobody was talking, I was not feeling secure enough about Prom anymore and I thought it was mylo. When people came back and started talking and I learned it wasn't mylo, I figured Prom was back on the table. However, the longer the discussion with Prom (and the other people active at the time) went, the less I felt a Prom lynch. My only alternative at that time was Hopeless1der, whose defense I was not particularly happy with (I could explain it post-hoc, but what's the point, he flipped scum).
Why were you off the table at the time?
1. Your case on Kush, with connections and all that jazz. It seemed too farfetched to be some crazyness made up by scum.
2. The main point of my case on you was based on a misunderstanding.
3. Your defense seemed adequate at the time.
I presume that explains my thought process enough? You still haven't really said what you think of Drazak. You agree that he needs to be killed asap? About the nonconclusive case about Muso? That was just putting your thoughts out too? The "not strong" is partly my point about your cases: You don't hold yourself particularly accountable to them. Compare youself to risk: He's extremely terse but every post at least has something fairly concrete about it. Your posts are pretty much the opposite (except for the case against me) which brings me to: the case against me: The main point about the case against me is that you made a definitive Release is scum with no "maybe a townie too." Your other posts do not have the same conclusiveness. I don't feel that he needs to be killed asap. However, he still has not given any reasoning for his posts. If he posts nothing before the resolution period (he might be busy, and boy does he not like kills based on irl stuff getting in the way), then he needs to be killed. So essentially, i'm fine with a Drazak kill that gets sent in 1 minute before the deadline (given he doesnt post...)
So you believe him? Please state this, or the opposite, explicitly.
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alright, I'll take that position on board. Thanks for the input.
Sadly irl prevents me from posting in action resolution period. Though I'll do my best to post as late as possible.
Obviously not outing the blues that I know. No worries.
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EBWOP: blues that I *think I know
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So you think Acro and I have been playing the best scum bus ever? Acro has accused both me and Kush pretty heavily as being scum. Okay, I totally see how I'm more scummy than everyone else in this game tooooootaly.
Scum:
Draz (duh)
Scummy:
Kush
Fuba (looks likely for SK but I think I know what he is doing so take this with a grain of salt).
Release (the way he explains his play is pretty unacceptable but I don't know his meta so I'll have to do some investigations)
Not as scummy as they once were
DP
Acro (my gut read is still scum and there are good reasons for it, release has made the worst case on it ever though. Acro still needs to be looked at in lylo but if he wants to play this way as either scum or town I'm happy to keep him around for a while; if he is scum I'll have to hope that those townies around in lylo remember this because there is 0 chance I'll be there).
town reads+ Show Spoiler +
Blue reads + Show Spoiler +probably Draz, scum you should shoot him
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