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On November 08 2012 13:10 Release wrote:
On a day on which no one dies, occam's razor says that those who have kill roles will not claim to be RBed. It would lead to that line of reasoning ,"no one dead, this guy RBed, this guy has killing role"
Not if you were scum (not SK) and were roleblocked. You would know that you were roleblocked by town and that the person who RB'd you would claim it if you didn't.
Acro: the pm detail was not frivolous. He claimed late. If someone is going to claim rb late they need a reason. If kush is mafia and they rb'd one of release/me claiming to have been rb'd is only a benefit to them since, in that case, they would not be holding the rb. Thoughts?
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On November 08 2012 13:26 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm back. My vote was up in the air in the beginning, because I was pondering over possibly voting kush. I'll stick with draz for now, since now that I've got confirmation bias out of my system, I can't confirm my theory until one of them flips.
##Vote drazak
@Release: I think it's likely that someone with a kp who was roleblocked would be more inclined to report it, because then there's a roleblocker out there who knows you haven't told the truth.
But on that note, the fact that you appear to have not thought of that makes me think you're town.
Edit: saw I was ninja'd. Wanted to comment anyway.
You don't read that as disingenuous? Kid has been paranoid as fuck so far. His post reads to me like someone saying "look what I just did, no scum would do that, see" it is one of the things release has been finding scummy in acro, and I wonder if he might be hyper aware of it because it is a scum tell of his own.
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nope, that would be kush. Acro and I are unquestionably next, though we've backed it up with our play and you'll find that for me at least it isn't indicative as it is something I do as both town and scum.
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the above was @release
Fubs: I disagree with you on the mindset necessary for the comment but it doesn't really matter at the moment. I can see why you would read it as you did.
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On November 08 2012 02:02 drazak wrote:
I'm, working on a case for risk being scum, I'll post more about it in a few hours when I'm not so busy
This was Draz's last post and it was 22 hours ago. Anyone not voting Draz is an idiot at this point. This is a huge scum tell on top of a hugely scummy player.
Draz, if by some impossibility you are town I will hate you forever if you let yourself get lynched without doing a damn thing about it before you die.
@Kush
On November 08 2012 20:41 kushm4sta wrote:
@release where did wbg say the game cant be broken with flavor?
On November 02 2012 01:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
You may claim your role and character name, but I will be modkilling for flavor text (although the game should not be breakable with flavor, it's rule 11). Let this be your last and only warning.
A thought on Draz: this kid hasn't voted today. That means that he will be modkilled if he does not come back into the thread in the next ~6 hours. I for one would be okay with using his mod kill to our advantage and lynching someone else as long as we can confirm that there will be enough people here at the end of day to switch back onto Draz at lynch. I will be here on and off for another 5.5 hours but will not be here for lynch so this is a plan that would rely on other players. What do you all think?
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greek chorus: the evil Draz has been away a long time and now no one doubts the evil which lurks within his red heart
Draz: lol no, I'm here guys I just dunno wats happening. k?
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EBWOP: sorry, that was just shitting on you and not actually helpful to anyone.
What you can do is:
Provide the case you promised 22 hours ago. Make the case on anyone else you think is scum.
Be active.
Make sure you post all of your reads and the reasons for them.
Give us any and all information you have or think you have. Your blue reads. Your red reads. Your green reads and your black reads. Everything.
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On November 09 2012 01:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 00:58 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 02:02 drazak wrote:
I'm, working on a case for risk being scum, I'll post more about it in a few hours when I'm not so busy This was Draz's last post and it was 22 hours ago. Anyone not voting Draz is an idiot at this point. This is a huge scum tell on top of a hugely scummy player. Draz, if by some impossibility you are town I will hate you forever if you let yourself get lynched without doing a damn thing about it before you die. @Kush On November 08 2012 20:41 kushm4sta wrote:
@release where did wbg say the game cant be broken with flavor? On November 02 2012 01:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
You may claim your role and character name, but I will be modkilling for flavor text (although the game should not be breakable with flavor, it's rule 11). Let this be your last and only warning. A thought on Draz: this kid hasn't voted today. That means that he will be modkilled if he does not come back into the thread in the next ~6 hours. I for one would be okay with using his mod kill to our advantage and lynching someone else as long as we can confirm that there will be enough people here at the end of day to switch back onto Draz at lynch. I will be here on and off for another 5.5 hours but will not be here for lynch so this is a plan that would rely on other players. What do you all think? Can't sleep. This is terrible prom. What are you thinking? Just lynch the guaranteed scum plz oh plz lynch him. This plan scares me.
If he was going to get modkilled (he isn't anymore, plan gone) it would be nice if we could let him die on his own and lynch the next scummiest guy as long as we could make sure that if he showed up to make sure he didn't get modkilled we could still lynch him. I like it but it doesn't matter anymore.
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No no no, I want Draz to post a picture of himself dressed as a carrot. Make me really believe the claim.
like this one come on draz! I believe in you, now dress up as a carrot.
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aw shit it didn't work. Look at the link in the spoiler, carrot costume man.
If he was smart he would do that, 100% claim scum and we'd have gotten rid of the possibility that he was VT. Also I'm not sure I see that dedication from him. He voted off Hope five minutes before deadline. We had enough time to get Hope and if we were all in thread f5ing until after deadline we'd still get him. Not the point. We aren't doing it any more. Though I liked the plan.
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will you be here for lynch? y/n?
Don't worry plan dropped. Wiped from my mind.
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On November 09 2012 01:37 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 01:31 Promethelax wrote:
will you be here for lynch? y/n?
Don't worry plan dropped. Wiped from my mind. Doubtful. Maybe if I wake up in time. Now I really need to go to sleep. I am shutting off my net rofl. see ya.
'night dude. Sleep well and we'll see you after the lynch. Sleep well.
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On November 09 2012 02:21 Acrofales wrote:
I think Drazak went out to look for a leotard.
He is essentially claiming scum in thread. Which I guess means that he and his scum buddy think that he is the lynch 100% as such I would bet on a bus. If they are sure he is going down the guys pushing for him had better include the other red just because we'll be more willing to trust each other after voting down a second red in two days as a group (obviously depending on who votes Draz today). What I'm saying is to keep an eye on the Draz voters and make sure that their stories check out.
Trust no one!
Draz, please wear a carrot custome for me.
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I think that there is a case to be made on a red risk but you failed to make it. Show me why he is scum, not that he was blue hunting as that same statement is true of a decent number of other players in the game including both myself and Kush niether of whom are on your scum list.
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Oh I've been meaning to ask:
Acro do you have a RB BC for the last two nights? and
Thrawn did you BC that your check was on Kush?
those two things keep nudging me in the back of the brain when I try to think about which claims I believe.
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On November 09 2012 04:42 Acrofales wrote:But you can consider my pathological obsession over roleblockers this game as a pretty serious indication that my roleclaim is true this time around  If you don't believe the obsession, I see no reason why you'd believe a breadcrumb, so /shrug.
No no, I 100% believe that you are a roleblocker. I just wish you had BC'd as your 1st, or thereabouts, post was about how important BCing was (though in that case it was for masons).
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On November 09 2012 04:40 Acrofales wrote:
No.
1. I was lazy.
2. I was fully expecting to get shot before any necessity to claim came up.
So you thought it wouldn't help town to know who you had RB'd after your claim when we would know 100% that you are town?
Remember when you and I went filter Diving through mr Zealos trying to figure out who he roleblocked? Remember who you made it clear that was important? Why did it not matter to you toprovide town with all the information that could be possibly availible to us?
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On November 09 2012 04:45 kushm4sta wrote:
eh im really not liking this lynch on drazak the more I think about it. Why would scum remove their vote like that after the bandwagon commences... that is the dumbest thing ever as scum.
##unvote drazak
##vote release
Other people on my possible scum list:
prome (new addition! after his last post about breadcrumbs. It definitely seems like he is pretending to care)
risk
dp
So if I'm pretending to care what are we getting from you? Not even that? What about my posts shows a scum mentality? Please, point it out if you are able.
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Kush my man could you tell me about why you still don't belive that scum got fake claims after both Hopeless and Mods more or less confirmed that they did. I am hung upon this one.
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so will you be here before the lynch? y/n
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